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Whoa guys, let’s hold up a second. They were convicted by a grand jury. Anyone who keeps up with things knows that you can get a grand jury to indict anyone for anything and once you’re brought in for questioning by the jury they can question you for as long as they want with no breaks, no legal counsel, and no chance to prepare a defense. I mean let’s face it, one of the charges is carrying or possessing a firearm during the crime they were planning, last I checked you had to actually commit the crime before being charged with it. Charging someone with PLANNING to use a firearm is one thing, charging them as though they’ve already used it is entirely illegal. I seem to remember a movie about this sort of thing…
I spent right at 30 seconds glancing over that article and found a charge that’s patently unconstitutional so how about we wait for some real court proceedings before we toss these guys under the buss? If it completely disappears in a few days that’s your que that this was all media hype.
Btw, any takers on how long before a lib uses this as a reason for more gun control?
Lemm said:
lockEm said:
Wasn’t their plan to kill a cop and then use bombs to kill more cops during the funeral?
obviously I’m not very informed
The priests in Haiti were completely cleared of any wrongdoing. Notice how fast the story disappeared?
If I remember correctly the parents/guardians specifically asked that the kids be taken to America.
Generally speaking I want more info.
If we can’t call Muslim extremists hellbent on destroying our way of life, killing innocents simply because they’re not Muslims, and replacing our laws with those of their own religious sect terrorists then it’s pretty unfair to call these guys terrorists. I’m just saying…
If liberals don’t want to call those guys terrorists then it’s pretty messed up to jump on the big T-word bandwagon with these guys.
MajorMajorMajor said:
Kroger brand ramen MMMMMMM
You do realize that Kroger doesn’t actually make the ramen…
NuRayZ said:
Anyway, if you don’t know, they are a militia group who planned to attack some cops and use home made bombs to blow *edited* up. Do you consider them to be terrorists? If you believe them to be, then why? If not, why not?
Credible sauce?
Plasma TVs are the most expensive to maintain. They’re heavier, use more power, have to be recharged, typically cost more, and when compared to a 240 hz LCD look no better
You’re better off with a 240hz Samsung LCD. Sams Club has epic deals, as does Best Buy when they’re clearing inventory for a newer model.
NuRayz: The Best Buy people will tell you literally anything to get you to walk out the door with new high-dollar electics. Listening to them lie about computers is especially entertaining. Sears is no different.
I just looked through the plugin list and didn’t see any.
There’s a spawnzone protection plugin for friendlyfire only that we could recode for enemy fire as well.
She’ll give birth out of sight and you won’t see the little ones until they’re at least a few weeks old.
You can hunt around for where she’s hidden them but she’ll rape you if you get too close.
Feeddatroll said:
This reason is the everlasting feud between PC and console gamers.
Both sides got along just fine for years and could very easily do so again.
NuRayZ said:
Cry moar.
I get my Blue Cross Blue Shield back for another 4 more years!!!
BCBS let you stay on your parents plan until you were 26 anyway.
l2read your policy
The plain and simple truth is that most Americans have no idea what was voted on last night. For instance, the democrats voted in favor of spending taxpayer money on abortion. Both the pro-abortion AND pro-life groups wanted that ban to pass. Both of them agreeing on anything is historic, that the democrats would swat it down to cover their own asses is nothing short of astounding. You do realize that *edited*ing off the pro-life, pro-abortion, and the 30,000+ insurance companies in this country, all in one night, isn’t a very bright move on the part of your party?
Another interesting fact is that we all start paying taxes on a healthcare plan that doesn’t start for another 4 years. Please explain the logic behind this. the need was so immediate, so urgent, that they had to ram this through without even attempting to get republicans onboard yet the only parts that start immediately are the ones that penalize and severely restrict the already declining insurance industry. You do realize their profit margins are less than 2% right? What happens when insurance companies start dropping like flies because they can’t afford to stay in business? Obama’s healthcare plan makes no plans for that and when people lose their coverage before Obama’s plan starts, and other companies can’t afford to pick up people beacuse they can’t stay in business charging someone with cancer the same rate as a healthy 20 year old, what happens to them? They’re stuck without insurance is what happens. Obama can’t make a company to force itself out of business and he can’t make Americans buy a good or service under penalty of fines and imprisonment. This bill is going to get struck down so *edited* hard it’s going to make Nancy’s head spin around like an owl.
How many democrats had their vote bought? All a republican has to do is find out what the price of their opponent’s vote was and heavily advertise that. They win by default. Hell a few of them were bought with nothing more than a ride on Air Force One. How is that going to look in the ads during the election cycle?
Here’s another tidbit, Obama’s “strongly disapprove” numbers are equal to Bush’s when he left office. Chew on that one for a minute. It took 8 years for people to really hate Bush this much but Obama got there in 14 months. GG my friend. At this rate your “historic” president will leave only one mark in history, the most hated president of all time.
Feeddatroll said:
Can’t say i’m for this health care thing. Hell even the Canadians say it’s a bad idea. But what could he possibly do in four years
I lol’d everytime someone mentioned the Canadian healthcare system as a model we should emulate. They’re in the process of re-privitizing their healthcare system because the government can’t properly manage it.
Obama signed an executive order “preventing” the taxpayer funded abortion thing but the bill that was passed still allows it. The republicans put forward a motion to repeal that part but the democrats voted it through.
Anything Obama does via executing order and instantly be undone with an executive order. He’s the most pro-abortion president in history so you know *edited* well that part isn’t going last long.
I think it’s ironic that the developers of CoD6 made all these online gameplay changes at the behest of Activision then they turn around and stab the devs in the back.
What they should have done to begin with is tell Activision to STFU and let them make the game in a fashion they know *ALL* gamers will enjoy. Something along the lines of the matchmaking system Microsoft uses for it’s Windows Live XBOX ports, incorporating a dedicated server AND automatic matchmaking system.
Regardless, they aren’t going to get anything and Activision will have this swept under the rug. If there’s one thing Activision has done well after all these years it’s screw devs and make litigation against them disappear.
As promised. Locked on page 5.
Troll some other thread.
Sorry Ephraim. Looks like yet another one of your meeting discussion threads got locked.
Seriously, dude. You don’t have a clue. I stopped reading your post when you said the two VPs weren’t doing their jobs.
I don’t know who you are, and to be quite honest don’t really care, in the last month the VPs have spent more time negotiating sponsorships and resources for this club with university officials than Kazka has in the last two years. You don’t see them “doing anything” because while you’re all playing in the commuter lounge they’re out there actually doing work for the club.
Also, please let us know who’s telling you we’re trying to track people down. It’s probably the same person that told Kazka “we” were planning his impeachment back in December. You want to know the truth? If I wanted to know who you were I’d go find out, takes about 15 minutes. Really easy process. Here’s some more truth: I don’t care. We don’t care. The club doesn’t care. You’re in the same boat as Liquid, you’ve been here less than 6 months yet magically know better than everyone else.
Have you ever founded a successful clan or club? Have you ever been a leader in a 500+ active member organization? If the answer is no then I by myself automatically win the experience battle.
EDIT: Also, every fight was announced. If it wasn’t it was the officers YOU ELECTED that failed to do so.
So the alumni that Kazka barred from voting and tF which hold a minority stopped you from changing the club… how?
How is stealing our members not your intention? Just minutes after the meeting Josh and Kazka had a soapbox-style rally to talk everyone into quitting. You think that act helped or hurt this club?
What do the alumni have to do with this? We didn’t call the impeachment vote or have anything to do with it. You guys have time and again ignored the alumni and done whatever the hell you wanted so why are WE now the leading cause of your dissatisfaction?
Hell I’m virtually the only alumni allowed to vote.
You have again dodged this very important question.
MasterP said:
Btw, you still dodged my question:
MasterP said:
you can’t possibly think helping to form a competing club with the intention of stealing members from this club is beneficial to us.
Do you?
Can we get an answer?
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
The intention of our club is to provide a strong gaming community to the campus.
By extorting or stealing from any club that doesn’t do exactly what you decree?
tF Yushiro said:
It seems to me that the ones who left are hell bent on either starting a new club, or bringing down this one.
The one behind the other club has wanted this club to be either his or dead for years. Strangely enough, he was also impeached. Everyone else who left are just puppets.
Btw, if this trollfest makes it to page 5 I’m locking it.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
To Mitch: That isn’t the intention of our club.
How could it not be? You’ve already done everything I listed…
Just out of curiousity, what is there to negotiate? What you’re implying is that we either make broadsweeping changes to this club or you guys… what? You’ve already quit, formed a copycat club, stolen a small chunk of members, trash talked our club to all your friends, and are advertising our servers and April LAN event as your own. What more harm could you possible extort us for?
Btw, you still dodged my question:
MasterP said:
you can’t possibly think helping to form a competing club with the intention of stealing members from this club is beneficial to us.
Do you?
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
I want to change this club, so it won’t die, hence me calling for open, face to face negotiations. I am helping with the other club because I don’t think this club will change, which will lead to it’s death. I do hope we can work something out though.
So with 6 months as a member you know better than the execs who’ve been in the club 3 years and alumni who’ve been here 4-6 years? Thats oftly presumptuous isnt it? You ever stopped to think that maybe the club was “dying” because of the actions of your commuter lounge friends? We did have a whole lot more members when Bitey was president…
Also, you skipped over my earlier comment and I’m curious to know your answer:
MasterP said:
you can’t possibly think helping to form a competing club with the intention of stealing members from this club is beneficial to us.
Do you?
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
I’m not trolling now, if that’s what you’re implying.
Yes you are. You know why we did what we did and you can’t possibly think helping to form a competing club with the intention of stealing members from this club is beneficial to us.
I know what you want the execs to say, and we aren’t going to say it so stop wasting everyone’s time.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
MasterP said:
Please explain how your actions have helped to keep this club alive?
Which actions in particular?
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Trolling gets you banned, you know.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
Also, Liam, are you even an alumni or current student of Western?
Read the constitution before making any argument about the webmaster position.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
He’s worried about the security issues involved with a rogue moderator? Seriously?
What could I do as a moderator that the admins couldn’t easily revert?
EDIT: And I did explain my reasons, I’m guessing you missed that post.
Moderators can destroy this forum if they wanted. Admins can’t revert most changes, like moving threads all over the *edited* place. They don’t have any more control over the actual board part than mods do.
Besides you weren’t told a reason, which you were, why should we give your powers back?
1) Begin an elected officer does not, according the constitution, grant you powers in the forums. You and Moose have stated several times that being removed from the forums does not grant us the right to remove you from the club. We’re just applying your own logic to this situation.
2) You had your powers removed because we don’t trust you ATM. You’re helping create another campus club that directly competes with this one, have recruited from this club, and trash talked this club and it’s execs pretty *edited* hard IRL. You’ve also conspired to steal our resources.
3) True you weren’t notified. Consider this your notification of power removal.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
MasterP said:
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
I was not given a compelling reason why I shouldn’t have my privileges back.
Yes you were.
His reason for not giving your powers back was just as compelling as your reason for wanting them back.
He provided the vaguest statement I’ve heard in weeks and refused to elaborate.
And your arguement wasn’t vague?
Liam said:
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
I would like them back, as no reason for their removal has been given.With everything you’ve been involved with and your current actions, I am not giving you any type of moderator permissions at this time. I will see about creating a new group tomorrow to allow you to see the exec discussion. As for now, no.
At this point you’re just trolling for a rise out of the admins which you aren’t going to get.
