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Its just a simple map where you kill people. Just like AIM maps or FY maps without the free guns and such. What, you need to be able to plant or rescue hosties to have fun?
Its a good map and great fun once in a while.Awesome and thanks
! I look forward to playing with you some once I return from my girlfriend’s while I’m on Spring Break 
I’ve been playing for 4-5 years now, started off with 1.4 and was hooked from the start. As far as leagues go and such I’ve participated in CAL from O to M during 1.4 and 1.5, then never really cared too much once 1.6 and Source rolled around. I never participated in CAL for 1.6 but I gave it a go in Source and didn’t care too much for the way things were handled and such. I haven’t given Cevo or other leagues a try though but I’ve heard Cevo is great.
If I had the money, I still wouldn’t buy a mustang or another Ford.
Know what they say about Ford’s. *edited*ed On Race Day, Fix Or Repair Daily, or Found On Road Dead.
Mine is the 2nd variety.
Actually a lot of our admins have a lot of experience when it comes to differentiating between hackers and not.
I’ve watched the demos and have to agree with Kuros, not simply because I was there with him when it happened, but also because watching through his PoV it is rather rediculous watching as you so happen to know where people are. Of course it doesn’t mean you’re hacking, it also could mean that you were ghosting. And with 4 other members of your clan on the server with every single one of them being on Teamspeek with you, that brings up serious question about whether or not you were you ghosting. We had told you earlier that ghosting wasn’t allowed, Kuros had kicked you previously because of your apparent ghosting, and you were later banned on several pretenses.
By the way, contrary to popular belief, CAPS LOCK IS NOT CRUISE CONTROL TO COOL. K? Thanks.
Jackass said:
This isn’t a personal thing by any means, I just got tired of having to stress out playing on the server when I came to play CS:S to de-stress. Nothing against you at all Kuros, and it isn’t anything you’ve specifically done that is sparking this at all.And my better side would prompt me not to respond to Flakes because I’m pretty sure he has both the attention span and maturity of a spoon, but there are several things you have done that I can and will point out for you since you are obviously having such a hard time figuring them out.
Right, insulting me and stating that my maturity and attention span is that of a spoon is going to get a lot of respect for you.
Jackass said:
1) Constantly starting arguments with me out of nowhere. You can call it “talking” all you want, but for some reason whenever I’m in the middle of a game you will immediately begin complaining about the team I am on and the weapon I am using. Maybe if you focused more on not dying you wouldn’t spend so much time in spectate mode whining at me through public admin speak.I “complain” about the team you’re on and such because I respected you enough to hope that you wouldn’t be such a stat *edited* and actually would switch teams to balance it out, rather than leaving the teams unbalanced and creating an environment where people on the opposing teams would rather leave the server and play more because of how unbalanced it is. The weapon thing I’ve explained countless of times and many, many people agree with me on the subject. I’ve been playing this game for many years and I’ve watched as the Krieg/Bullpup have become two of the most popular guns in the game simply because noobs can pick it up spray with it, snipe with it, and use it like they would use an AK/Colt. Watching as people constantly use the gun irritates me because they don’t learn how to actually aim using a gun that they can lean on and use as a crutch. As far as myself focusing more on not dieing and such, I laugh. I view this as a pub, because it is a pub. I challenged NXG to a scrim (whom are much, much better than a lot of people on this server including some that think they’re good) and completely wiped the floor with them. I went something like 21-5, I just don’t care or see the point of caring about my score on a pub. And as far as spectator goes, I sit in spec because for the most part I’m alt-tabbing between CS and talking to my girlfriend, so instead of sitting in spawn on a team and being a complete waste of space I sit in Spec. If the server gets full, I disconnect. Maybe if you cared less about your score in a pub you’d see what I was saying.
Jackass said:
2) Always switching me from one team to another at least once per map. I load quick and choose auto-select, yet somehow it is my fault other good players happen to join the same team as I, and you feel the need to call me out on it whenever my team starts winning.What? Lol, I switch anybody and everybody. Don’t think you’re so special that I’m always choosing you or some other self-centered thought because I don’t care who I’m switching as long as the teams are balanced, same goes for any other admin I’m sure. Also, noone loads fast on the server. It takes everyone a good 30+ seconds because of how long it takes to Send Client Data, etc. If anyone loads faster than others it is those on campus with good computers since it wouldn’t take as long to relay information. I’ve watched as you’ve entered the server and joined a completely stacked team, so don’t give me the garbage of you autoselecting all the time, as it would send you to the losing team.
Jackass said:
3) Switching me to Terrorist just so I can’t kill you with an m4a1.Again, what? if anything I’d switch you CT so I didn’t have to see you lean on the Krieg as a crutch because you can’t aim with the AK, or some other excuse.
Jackass said:
4) Acting like an *edited* to not only other admins, but the majority of regulars and non-regulars for no reason.I don’t act like an *edited* to people for no reason. I act like an *edited* to those that come in and disrupt gameplay for those that are enjoying themselves as well as those that are too *edited*y amongst themselves and creating a negative image for our server as well as themselves.
Jackass said:
etc.I’d cramp up finishing the list so I’ll stop there. The point isn’t that I want or even need special treatment. I don’t care that you took my admin away, I don’t care that you switch me from team to team (it happens to tons of people), and I don’t care that you love to start arguments and don’t know when to stop them. I play enough so that I only have to put up with you during certain hours of the day. You should seriously stop trying to flatter yourself.
Stop acting like you deserve the special treatment then if you say you don’t need it. Don’t *edited* about me switching you to another team if you don’t care. Stop provoking the argument and creating it if you can’t finish what you started or support anything you bring up.
Jackass said:
Regardless, I can and have gotten over Flakes’ attitude. It is more the fact that several admins love to fight with each other and the players. I play on lots of other clan servers, and its remarkable how a few normal, level-headed admins can regulate a server and not have to deal with arguing, criticism, and empty complaints. I understand that the admins are doing the best they can. Alot of people are college students and have jobs and such and it is hard to balance stuff out. I’m a theatre major and know how that goes.First off, we’re not a clan server and because of that we have to deal with a lot more as well as regulate a lot more than what clans do on their own servers. As far as I know, the only time admins have fought with one another is when you had your incident and fit, which then prompted Postal to go off as well. And the only people admins fight or argue with anyone is when they become a public nuisance and a detriment to the server and that is because we are trying to solve the problem and stop that person from being a problem.
Jackass said:
When I signed up to get admin, it was for one reason and one reason only, and that was to be able to fix issues when no other admins were present. I spent alot of time on this server when there were no admins on and we would have more than 1 obvious hacker on the server, or people spouting racial slurs at other players. It was ridiculous. And I thought that since I was usually on during these hours, I’d be able to help out by being there when things like that happened. Yet I was pushed out by people who were apparently in a bad mood at the time and attacked me for trying to appeal to the overwhelming majority of the players. I know that there were upper division admins on, and thats why I initiated the vote first. I knew that we were part way through a round and I accepted only on the pretenses that it would make it the next map after the round which didn’t happen. And I knew that Kuros mentioned that he would try to cancel the vote, and after a long time he hadn’t, so I went ahead and accepted. I missed lots of the text that apparently was thrown out afterwards because I had the menu AND console up on my screen. I just wanted what was best for the server, which turned into some heinous crime.Your reasons for wanting to become an admin are good and you have great intention to becoming an admin, yet when you became an admin you thought that you were unrestricted to do whatever you wished. You felt that you should make a decision for the server despite knowing that there were several other admins on the server. You went about your actions in the worst way possible and the way you followed up your actions was even worse, by insulting those that granted you admin access and those that gave you the chance and opportunity. You were given enough time to read that map votes were not acceptable, you were given plenty of time to ask and console other admins, and you were asked and then warned not to accept the mapvote that you initiated.
Jackass said:
I’m sure I’ll be back someday, cause there are a bunch of really hilarious and fun people on this server.And just for the record, I have no ill will towards any of the admins or players (minus Flakes) and want to thank you guys for helping me get back into this game. Cya around!
Hope to see you back sometime Jackass, as I stated above you were a well and respected player on the server.
@Sephiroth: I deserve it? I’m sorry I don’t put up with kids who think they’re something special and deserve to be treated more than anyone else, and tired of those that think they’re the best and should be treated differently. Well, I still find it humorous that you’re all joining with him but I can understand him asking you all and such since you are all friends, etc. As far as you “raping” the server, give me a break. Its a pub dude, show me you dropping a 20 bomb against a CAL-M team and I’ll state that you’re raping. Hell, show me you dropping a 20 bomb against a team in CAL that has a winning (without forfeits like aCe) record and I’ll say you’re raping. Anyone can do well on a pub with any weapon.
@Jackass (again): The comment about joining aCe that I gave to Seph is the same to you.
Awww poor Jack, calling me a hippocrit and a bigot because he got his poor admin taken away.
You had your admin taken away because you instituted a map vote even though Kuros told you to cancel it and asked you not to accept it. You did not consult fellow admins nor did you ask whether you could or not, because you simply assumed that because you were an admin you had complete power and authority to do whatever you want. You chose to continue to argue with Kuros and myself even though both Kuros and gxti told us both to stop, you chose to continue on and make things worse. Don’t blame us for what you could’ve prevented.
What did Kuros and I do yesterday that was out of spite to you? I suppose me sitting back and playing the game was done out of spite, hm? Kuros making the next map scoutzknivez and not changing it in the middle of a map, done out of spite of course? Kuros balancing the teams and sending you to the opposite team after balancing them previously and sending me over earlier, etc was done out of spite yes?
The only thing I see here is that you’re thinking you’re more special than anyone else on the server, thinking you’re the only one being switched to another team, thinking you’re the only one ever mentioned, etc.
Have fun following Brian like his little lapdog in aCe, rofl. I’m sure they’ll need you to boost their forfeit win record, haha.
Either way Jackass, its sad to hear you’re leaving since you are a well liked and respected player on the server. Have fun and good luck finding a better server, I guess I could say welcome to Counter-strike because what happens on our server is more carebear than most servers.
Mani’s adminmod already allows us to restrict it to one or two (or even 3 or 4) per team but most of us feel it really shouldn’t be restricted. We restrict the autosniper because 95% of servers restrict it in Source, much like 95% of the servers in 1.6 restrict the Shield.
Pfft if I changed my display name I’d have to make all new signatures and such >_>;;
Arg, but it would clear up some confusion and I need to get into Photoshop anyways to make a friend a signature.
SG552 = Krieg in 1.6 and 1.5, before they changed its name. Also, yes you’ve proved you can use other weapons, continue using them and you’ll get better and won’t need the Krieg. Krieg is just a crutch for people limp on so they can kill close-range and far away without using any type of aim.
Shrug, either way though.
Sephiroth said:
Prove myself? I once thought you were actually a decent guy, but either something has been stuck up your *edited* lately or I was always wrong… My only two complaints are the same complaints everyone has on the server :1. Stop awping when your team is leading 10-0
2. Having fair teams, you know as well as anyone that having all the good players as T’s on assault or militia is going to cause trouble
Yes, prove yourself. Prove to others and those that decision’s matter that you are mature enough to be titled as an admin. There’s nothing wrong with me and I’m acting the same. I’ve always balanced teams no matter who is on what team and what team I am on. Its not my fault you and Ellaine always have to be on the same team and that I change things up. You join our server and you play by our rules. Also, I awp when my team is winning 10-0? Could it possibly, gasp, be that my team was winning 10-0 BECAUSE I was awping? Either way Seph, please bud, I picked up an AWP for the first time in about a week today on Nuke. Not my fault that I’ve *edited*ed you off to no end killing you left and right with it. Besides, weren’t you awping earlier when your team was winning something like 10-1? Hypocrisy doesn’t get you anywhere.
Because this username is one I actually remembered the password on.
That and Fascist Flakes wouldn’t allow me to log-in on it after I created the account.
How many freaking times have I said “Hey, maybe we should put Scoutz or some popular customs on the server just for *edited*s and giggles every once in a while?”
LISTEN TO THE FASCIST.
MILL FTW. God I can’t wait.
“WATCH KITTY YOU PIECES OF GARBAGE.”
“Kitty?”
“YES, THE HALL WITH THE REVOLVING CAT-THING AT THE END”
“Ooooh, Kitty…. pretty” *dies*
Sephiroth said:
This “slighest of sayings” here was a little uncalled for considering I’ve never done anything to GXTIAnd considering his comment was a little out of the blue and unexplained, I had a right to be offended, but like I already said i dont want to be part of you crew anymore, end of story!
But I suppose less whining and kicking your asses up and down your own server is more appropriate, have fun losing
His statement isn’t offensive at all unless taken offensively. A better and more proper reply could’ve and should have been a simple “Why?”.
Sephiroth said:
Also, it’s quite clear that Fascist dislikes me so everything he says/does is already biased, why that is remains to be seen… hes the only admin on your server that seems to have a problem with me!Really Seph? I suppose that’s why I’ve told people that you were a good guy just you complain a lot, right? I suppose since you’ve had such an enormous experience as an admin and reading admin chat, as well as participating in our IRC channel that you would know that I don’t dislike you, but a lot of others do. Cry less, prove yourself.
Take offense to it, please Seph. You’re obviously misconstrued about what it takes to be an admin and we’re full on admins. That is all.
Also, some tips: complain less, be more active in the forums, and have more of a positive attitude that doesn’t get offended by the slightest of sayings.
Bunnyhopping was so 1.3 gxti, get your facts straight nub
. Now its just lag adjustments making it look like the people are landing and shooting at the same time, same in 1.6. Stevo, I played BF2 tons as well as BF2142 so
Kuros just pulled a Killty
. He comes in and does the finishing work and has the final say while I do all the work.3 Killty
Stat *edited*. We should modify the stats so the AWP is .8 as well.
Same with the Krieg and Bullpup >_>
Yeah well
. Custom is fun but I don’t believe we need two tournaments in the same game when there could be more time dedicated to a tournament with an obviously strong following which could get more people to attend.Also Zach, just because your uber Alienware can’t run Source doesn’t mean you should dislike it, not its fault Alienware can’t run Source
Jackass said:
The server was currently on de_dust. There were at least 20 players on the server, and the Terrorist side was complaining that the game was uneven. As it is, de_dust is a difficult map to play. It requires lots of team strategy and no hesitation. Regardless of this, the teams did seem a little uneven, and so I swapped sides to try and help with the balance. Kuros also did some admin swapping to try and make things better, but the situation was never resolved. Lots of players were complaining that they didn’t want to play the map and so we proposed an alternative. The popular demand seemed to be that they would rather be playing de_dust2.The flaw here is that you cannot make everyone happy. Instead of deciding to institute a map switch based on one side’s complaining perhaps a better solution could’ve been resolved, such as more team swapping. You cannot make everyone happy and just because you want things changed doesn’t mean you can change them. People will ALWAYS complain whether they are winning or losing.
Jackass said:
Curiously, I started a vote to see how many people on the server actually wanted to a) switch maps and
switch it to de_dust2. The results were that (17) wanted to play de_dust2 and (3) wanted to stay on de_dust. I then got a message asking if de_dust2 would be the next map, and proceeded to accept, seeing as how 85% of the server wanted to switch. The map ended up switching mid-round which wasn’t what I had expected. Before the game got started, [WCU] Fascist Flakes had switched it back to de_dust which I didn’t mind.Instituting a map vote to arguably the most popular map on CS is a no-brainer. If you had instituted a map vote to the next map in rotation and not a map most had played 4 or so maps ago then that would’ve been more feasible and more forgiving. Another thing is that you instituted a map vote during the middle of the round, I would’ve just hit a random 1 or 2 to get it out of my freaking screen, much less cared what it was about. Also, it shouldn’t matter if you “expected” it to switch or not because you should have seen what you hit in the admin window and you should have known what would’ve happened. Also, you point the finger at me and blame me for changing it back when you fail to realize that I was sitting there loading as well. I hadn’t even had enough time to hit enter to get out of the MoTD much less change it back to Dust. Another point is this, you accepted the vote even though Kuros said in chat specifically for you not to accept that vote. Us going “wtf?” in chat should have given you good enough reason to doubt your actions and not accept it at all.
Jackass said:
An argument arose as to why the map vote had occurred, because according to Flakes “nobody on the server was complaining about the map”. In truth, players were beginning to spectate because of the one-sidedness of the current map, and those that spectated were threatened to be kicked by other admins for wasting space on the server (which again makes sense). Brian was telling us that the problem was not with map voting but with the map’s cycle of rotation and that it should be appealed on the forums (which I did), and gxti told us the same thing. The arguing continued in increased intensity and after being told that “nobody was complaining”, I was kicked from the server by Kuros.If people were upset about the map then they would’ve left. People “complain” all the time as I said previously, if they were actually upset and not wanting to play the map then they would’ve left or said something more than to your team. The people whom you mention that actually went to spec are Ellaine and Postal. Both of which went to spec because they were doing horribly on their team and they couldn’t stand seeing their scores plummet anymore. Them going to spec is simply an act of immaturity and complete childishness, like a 7 year old quitting and stomping off in a fit of rage because he isn’t going to win at checkers. As gxti told you all on the server, if you have a problem with specific maps then bring it up on the forum. If we see fit that it should be removed, or even shortened, then the action will take place. Complaining about it in game will get you nowhere. Also Jackass, Kuros told you in game that ANYONE he saw complaining about the map and such would get kicked. You continued, he kicked and you had fair warning.
Jackass said:
I used this oppurtunity to go to the bathroom, and then logged back in hoping that the confrontation was done. It apparently wasn’t, and before I had even said anything on the server, Kuros started on me again. Not wanting to get into it again, I asked him to just not talk to me anymore for the moment (to avoid prolonging the ridiculous argument), in which he responded by kicking me again. I rejoined, and again stayed quiet as I logged back on. At this point, Postal had gotten into it as well, Brian had left, Fascist Flakes and Kuros were still in full gear, and gxti was trying his best to mediate.When you came into the server you said something more like “Kuros, shut the *edited* up and don’t talk to me. You’re not doing anything” (not a direct quote, but it was something more fierce than just “Don’t talk to me anymore”.) You practically asked to get kicked. Just because you were dubbed an admin did not make you god, it did not make you bulletproof, and it did not give you the right to think you can do whatever you want. Becoming an admin means that you have to take up a higher level of maturity and a higher level of restraint, both of which were not displayed.
Jackass said:
Now I had already established that it was wrong of me to have initiated a map vote, because I did not know what that entailed. I thought it would simply gather an opinion, which apparently I was mistaken. My point is that now Postal and I’s admin privileges have been revoked because we were trying to appeal to the overwhelming majority of the server. Gxti warned us, and at that moment I stopped arguing and pushing the topic because I knew it was leading to nothing good. But just because people act selfish and don’t know when to stop arguing shouldn’t mean that others get punished for it. I don’t think its right that a select few have to catch the blame of this situation, especially without warning. The situation had already de-escalated by the time anything happened, and simply because certain admins dislike other admins because of their play style or feeling of responsibility towards the server’s players doesn’t mean that they should get black listed.Your “overwhelming majority” is nothing more than waving a twinkee in front of a fat kid. You initiated a map vote to arguably the most popular map in the game, you put it in the middle of a round, AND you did it without warning or asking ANYONE. Jackass, you’ve had plenty of opportunity to read the forums and see what has happened when others instituting map votes, you’ve seen how the other admins acted and how we’ve always said that we don’t RTV or map vote or ANYTHING other than going by rotation and yet you decided you needed to take a full server into your hands and implement a map vote. Naturally I’m offended that you think I have some personal distaste or vendetta against you Jackass. I frankly don’t have anything against you, I think you’re a fine guy and quite funny at times. At the same time, I complain and whine about the Krieg/Bullpup because I have a strong distaste for the gun as well as those who abuse it. Do I go about restricting them? No, I put up with it. If you want to prove to others that I’m right and you can’t use another gun and can’t aim, go ahead. Your actions seemed less of taking responsibility towards the populous of the server and more of “God I can’t stand seeing my score suck and I think this map is one-sided so I’m going to listen to my whining team and switch the map instead of trying to take control and lead my team.”
As Brian said, if map voting was on and people could choose the maps they wanted to play then we would be running a 24/7 Dust2/Office server. People will always whine and complain about maps, can’t make everyone happy.
Prone in CS would blow. It would make it too much like some Tom Clancy bull*edited*. This isn’t Tom Clancy, it’s CS
I’ve spent over 4 years learning the game and I still prefer Source over 1.6. Its honestly not that much harder to learn or play, you just have to learn not to shoot through freaking walls, how hard is that?
Either way, less tournaments would probably be a good idea. Cycle out some of the less popular games and put in the more popular. Take out the 1.6 Custom tournament and you would have another hour or so at least dedicated for Halo. Move the Halo tournament up or dedicate more time to free-play, it doesn’t really matter. The tournaments were generally, in at least my opinion, well run and finished well within time constraints. Once the tournaments got underway then there was no issue finishing up in the alotted time-frame. As Kuros said earlier, a lot of time was spent/wasted getting people set up to play the games. If people had gotten there earlier or asked earlier to get the games installed, etc then that problem would not have arisen.
If people are coming just to win and just to play in the LAN to win at a certain game then I’m sorry, perhaps they should be more focusing on playing in some other types of tournaments then that of a LAN event where if I had to guess 95% of the people are just there looking to have fun and play the game, while winning prizes and “winning” the tournament isn’t their first and foremost priority.
I believe the principal is that they don’t want to have to force people to make the choice between playing in one tournament or the other, but to have the ability and the choice to participate in any tournament there is. But because consoles are limited to the amount of people are playing in one tournament at a time, there is an ability to allow multiple console tournaments to be ran at once or possible even a console tournament as well as a PC tournament.
Perhaps an organization should happen that designate a certain time period only for a set amount of console tournaments to be ran? Perhaps a console tournament could be ran while the Quake 3 tournament is being ran?
Overall I’m just getting this vibe that you’re trying to turn this into some professional competition between players when it should just be about the fun, winning prizes is a perk that Adam and the rest of the executives have worked hard in getting us, so enjoy it.
