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Dice: inspiron 1720 is not same HW as XPS; they can only go up to 8600 gfx vs 8700 minimum for xps.
That being said the inspiron 1720 is a good laptop and I would sell you mine…. but Liam already bought it. There are some really good deals for them on the dell outlet (www.dell.com/outlet) and you can get the standard dell warranty with them. Also note that under business dell notebooks, the Vostro 1700 is IDENTICAL to the inspiron 1720, except in color, so just get whichever one of those is cheaper.
btw, that return/small backspace is very old school; I have used many an old keyboard that was like that without a problem
desktop:
core2duo e6600 @ 3.0ghz
evga 8800gts 640mb
2gb ocz platinum ddr2-800
2x160gb hitachi sataII
chaintech via envy24 sound
samsung 20x dvd/rw
ultra 500w ps
aspire x-dreamer 2
ideazon reaper gaming mouse
ideazon merc stealth keyboard
siberia icemats
laptop:
dell xps m170
2 ghz pentium-m
2gb ddr2-533
256mb geforce 7800gtx
100gb 7200rpm hdd
logitech mx1000 bluetooth
I personally have the e6600 too, and I can push it to e6850 levels and I don’t really get much of a performance increase. Since the q6600 is basically the e6600 w/ twice the # of cores I imagine its a good chip.
my original point was that the q6600 was the SAME PRICE as the e6850 he was considering, that’s why I suggested it.
Dude I love the steelseries logo in place of the windows key
Also, a keyboard that can detect simultaneous keystrokes of EVERY KEY at the SAME TIME is INSANE
kuros said we should leave it out, thought honestly I have no problem leaving it in. I guess we could just do a huge map rotation with all the original maps plus mach2, turbine, etc.
well technically going by what you say, a single core cpu would be the fastest for gaming.
What I am saying is that overall quad cores are better. Yes right now the e6850 will be SLIGHTLY better in most games, but since most games are GPU (not CPU) limited it won’t be a problem. In the future though, new games will be optimized for more cores, making them substantially faster than dual core cpus.
Let me wrap this up with my point. The point is I think it makes most sense to take a VERY SMALL performance hit in current/older games with the quad core in order to have a cpu that will just get better over time and therefore will be a good performer for longer.
BTW bitey, what was your point with that first article? It clearly showed quad cores being faster on supreme commander, unless you wanted to point out this:
“Up until now games have been mostly single-threaded. This means that they are only capable of taking advantage of a single-core on the CPU. If you have dual or quad-core processors the game will not utilize those extra cores efficiently to provide any gameplay experience improvements. Therefore multi-core CPUs have been pointless for gaming. Times are changing though, and we are finally seeing the evolution of gaming take on the advantages that can be had from utilizing multi-core CPUs.”
which I don’t think really helps out your argument…
I was referring to the game tests
BTW, we are comparing the q6600 to the e6850; overall the q6600 wins about 3:2 in those benchmarks so its still the best for now and down the road once more applications that are designed for multicore are released, it will be dominating the e6850
of course, in the e6850’s defese, it was the winrar in WinRAR
lol @ tomshardware; those tests are run at very low resolutions and quality settings so they are CPU bottlenecked; most games are GPU bottlenecked though so the difference in performance would be miniscule… for that one game. Overall thought, 4 cores is going to be better than 2 cores.
all of those games will play wonderfully on the q6600
once again, it will be better over the long run than the e6850, even though the e6850 will be slightly faster in some situations.
NoDice said:
- AUZA Uber Extreme LAX 991
- Intel Core Quadro FZ9850
- Extremeair XMradio222 Dominator Series
- 128x 311 mb Eastern Analog in RIOT 5
- NotaATIvidia Feforce Ultra Quiet 97trillion Superticked STi hopefullt its HDCP without much Interface with the Ultra Quiet (4th to be added before the week)
- Thermalhas bodyArmor KVlr
- Lukewarm Big Water 760ii
- Scorching strongpower sizzling 750gW with Quad -+=12vultz rails
Dice, that’s EXACTLY what I am getting for xmas
yes but the q6600 will still be more than enough for source and tf2, and will have better longevity. Plus, he can always OC to 3.0ghz (e6850 levels) if needed.
Chris said:
Well I got bored and within the next year or so I will be building a new PC, this is what i got so tell me what you think-Tagan Aplus CS-EL Diablo Black 0.8mm SECC ATX Full Tower Computer Case
-Western Digital Caviar RE WD3200YS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
-EVGA 320-P2-N815-AR GeForce 8800GTS Superclocked 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported
-Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card
– Rosewill RP600V2-S-SL 600W SLI Ready-ATX12V V2.01 Power Supply
-Rosewill RCR-102 52-in-1 USB 2.0 Black Card Reader
-4GB of CORSAIR XMS2 240-Pin SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
-ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard
-Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Processor l
-ZALMAN CNPS 9700 NT 110mm 2 Ball Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler
-Vista Home Premium 32-Bit
8800gts 320mb is FTL. Get the 8800gt; it costs the same or less and is faster
Also, go for the q6600 instead of the e6850; they cost the same and you get 4 cores ftw.
I just got the sticker; I had it custom made by skinit and it turned out SWEET! Plus, it covers up all the scratches on the lid of my laptop
