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Below is what was said in the Admin Discussion section before I made this announcement.
So-CaL A said:
But RooR has been unbanned on his original account. So, if you unbanned him original but not the other account that he used why can’t you unban the second account? I was there when the original ban went down then the next ban on the other account he was using. I know he went about it with a bad attitude and im not disputing that it was the wrong way to go about it. But he has a legit reason for getting upset, his accnt was unbanned after the incident and wanted the other account unbanned also.Liam you brought up the same IP thing. The reason why was because it was RooR playing on both accounts. You banned him on the second one when you found out it was him and thought he was supposed to be banned. It turns out that his original account was unbanned and everyone forgot about his second account or in this case his friends.
I haven’t talked to anyone about this just noticed the little scuffle in the banned? forum
MasterP said:
So-CaL A said:
Liam you brought up the same IP thing. The reason why was because it was RooR playing on both accounts.Both of the forums accounts were posting from the same IP, meaning they were at the same house. We do not, as a general rule, unban secondary accounts used to bypass our ban system. We don’t care if you have secondary accounts, and certainly don’t mind you playing on both, but when you use another account to knowingly bypass a ban you can’t suddenly get *edited*ed at the the resulting punishment. If RooR really cared about his ban he would have said something BEFORE coming in under an alias and getting caught.
The appeal system works when you genuinely try to get yourself unbanned without being retarded about it and I’d say creating another forums account and ranting and tyrading the way he did certainly got him what was deserved. I gave NATE aka NoS more than ample opportunity to come clean about others using his account even after I knew RooR was using it. I probably shouldn’t have even given him the benefit of the doubt but I was feeling baity.
MasterP said:
OK so now I’m getting spam mail from them.They both have the same attitude, grammar style, and both of their point of views have suddenly shifted from “I haven’t played in years” to some sort of sob story. Can anyone confirm that they are, in fact, two different people?
NoDice said:
roor came in irc asking how to get in touch with you MP and i told him you had a billion ways to get contacted in your public profile,, this only led to a verble fight with Ex and ended in roor droping a nbomb towards the adminsthis dude has serious issues he needs to sort out,, maybe he was having a bad day, but he srly needs to learn to chill when people are trying to help him. very disrespectful towards me and others
MasterP said:
He also cussed Liam out.Badly.
How did they get my contact info? They’re both banned from the forums.
Liam said:
Enjoy the log.Here is his PM to me.
MasterP said:
I’m going to go ahead and put his SteamID on my toilet role for immediate use. I think I speak for everyone when I say WCU neither wants or needs that sort of player on our servers.Having a bad day is no excuse for what I just read in the IRC logs. He came in there specifically looking for a fight and instead of getting it on with me he picks the nearest target and fires away.
Liam said:
I wish I had been at my PC.BunnyTaliBAN said:
explain how haha. they let you dodge bullets easier? if thats the case then you should also not allow letting really good players play because their skill level is an unfair advantageI’m not going to get into ANOTHER debate over this.
Bunny hoping:
Makes you go much faster than normal players
Makes it much harder to hit you
Increases server lag, consequently decreasing overall server registry
Decreases shot registry against you, even shots that should do damage don’t
Usually requires a script to do well, breaking the whole “no hacking” rule
The difference between this and good players is that no matter how good a player gets, they still die when you shoot them in the head. With bunny hoppers there’s no telling what hitbox, if any, you’re actually going to hit. You can hit a bunny hopper square in the chest with an AWP for 15 damage or in the arm for 95.
If you want to discuss this further please create a new thread as this one will very quickly get derailed.
NoDice said:
i would say the admins do keep each other in line more than you thinkIt’s great that it works out that way now but it won’t always be like that. Just make sure you keep a close eye on it because even the best admin team can cause problems that spiral out of control overnight.
I think it’s about time EA cut some of the weaker games, the problem is they won’t in turn focus on making the good games better. There are so many good series that have been cut in the last five years, primarily by Microsoft and EA, that it’s really becoming ridiculous.
MajorMajorMajor said:
hmmm…i guess u can unrestrict dualies to to give urself a fighting chanceI advise that you not listen to any of Major’s weapon restriction ideas in this thread.
BunnyTaliBAN said:
what about bunny hopping though? why isnt that allowed?Because it’s an unfair advantage.
Not to pick the losing side but I do have to agree that having a large admin population leads to a sense of lawlessness. On many servers I’ve found that the more admins there are, the more likely they will start goofing off or abusing their powers. Having 5+ admins on at the same time is excessive and 10+ is retarded silly.
torankusu said:
I’d like to try doing a map vote at the end of the maps instead of a forced rotation, but we get to nominate what’s on the vote.Just so I can say “I told you so”, this is a bad idea.
Now carry on.
torankusu said:
Before the update? I wasn’t always able to move stickies before.
Then you, sir, are a noob. Pistols, shotguns, rockets, pretty much everything can move a sticky. I’m not sure if flamethrower can but the “reflect” secondary does a fine job of it.
Keep in mind some would rather PM or go to IRC to get the admin they want. It’s like running to the parent more willing to kiss your booboo.
NoDice said:
yeah now demomen have to work for once in their *edited* lives
It takes REAL talent to play demo, you can’t just pick up the grenade launcher and start getting headshots with it like practically every other gun in TF2.
Besides, that’s not really that big a change. Before when they shot the stickies they flew off in random directions and became almost useless anyway.
NoDice said:
ppl been reporting nearly a 50% drop in FPS in games?? noticed anything?50% is hard to believe. Are these the same people who said the original version of Vista gave them a “massive” drop in FPS?
BunnyTaliBAN said:
is it at all possible to do like a week trial of votemap?The long-term effects of votemap rotation wouldn’t be realized in a week.
So why is this such a big deal? Microsoft betas aren’t something the general public needs to get fired up about or coaxed into installing. Unless of course you WANT them to have a bad experience with Vista in which case tricking people into installing beta quality updates is a great idea.
Notice almost none of the articles that announced this first mentioned it was a beta unless you actually read the entire article.
NoDice said:
yeah it was shorting just like ellainesIf they swapped your motherboard and you got a different video card I wouldn’t get super *edited*ed about it. It’s not like they did it on purpose. If you’ve ever taken a laptop apart you’ll notice that the onboard video isn’t easy to identity without googling the chip model on the board.
Besides, they almost always go to the generic laptop repair facility in California where all major companies contract their work out to.
NoDice said:
i’m about to send mine back.. they ended up swapping out the gfx card with one thats 2 series lower… so word of advice,, double check your hardwareWhy did you send it back originally? Bad motherboard?
