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Willis said:
Look you know what Ex im glad you have this nice power trip. But at the end of the day you need to Get over it. You handled the whole situation poorley. All i want is what i am owed dont just tell me to get over it. As a admin you need to handle situations better please. I hope this is the last time we have this issue and probably is because im not gonna play in a server with poor admins and poor players. Sorry to the community here because a lot of you guys are good players and good people but it just takes one in the group to ruin it.The only thing I see in the server logs is you. Here’s what the logs say:
Server Logs said:
“COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d” say_team “CAN u get good *edited*ty?” “COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d
” say_team “Can u read? or are all texans retarded…” “COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d
” say “both of u *edited*s fail” “COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d
” say_team “U GUYS *edited*ING FAIL” “COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d
” say_team “mael stfu” “ex
” say ” cookie stfu” “COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d
” say_team “ex please stfu” “COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d
” disconnected (reason “Kicked by administrator”) “COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d” entered the game
“COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d
” say_team “Hey ex dont hate me because you have no right to tall” “COOKIECUTTERSHARK.d
” say_team “talk” Now I don’t know what was said over voice but from what I DO see in the logs I can’t in good conscience punish the admins for this.
ren said:
Done more good than harm? Ouch man. That hurts me deep down.
You don’t know the number of people we’ve banned like that. I can think of a dozen or so in the last month alone.
DeviantSyntax said:
Well we were unable to get into contact with Jill in time so there will not be a meeting today after all when new plans are made we will let you know what they are.WTF dude.
Where is the air support?
So far Liam and me have been the only ones to ban without taking a demo and including lawlrence there have been two out of the many to come on the forums and make a stink over it.
EVeryone else who appealed their ban and the admin couldn’t produce a demo has been unbanned, regardless of how obvious the hack was or how sketch their gameplay. On the whole, the policy really hasn’t been an issue and has done more good than harm.
Kaz-Ka said:
As far as the PS3 standing up to this claim you are dead wrong. The only reason that its sales are behind the 360 is its price tag, and even now Sony is catching up. And as far as I’m concerned, they are pushing the systems performance (have you not seen MGS4 running? It would take about 10 Xbox 360 disks to run that one game alone. So you believe Sony isn’t pushing its systems potential? Come on MasterP
)I didn’t say anything with regards to sales as the pricetag has been the only thing that’s hurt the PS3 so far.
I was referring to caping out the system to the point where you actually have a noticably lower framerate during certain parts of the game. The SNES had the ability to create full 3-D environments but they never marketed it because the game developers didn’t get to that point until about a year before the N64’s release. They did the same thing with the N64 (Perfect Dark) and Gamecube (3rd PoP, Zelda TP) as some of the later games from both systems were noticibly better than earlier ones.
As far the PS3 goes, no I haven’t seen anything close to the hype that was made about it’s abilities. Yes MGS4 is impressive but this thing was supposed to be more powerful than many PCs conbined, and so far I just haven’t seen it with their games. Hardware wise, yes it’s painfully obvious as some rich mothers in universities up north hook PS3s together to make supercomputers. Software wise though they’re still on par with PC and *most of their games aren’t much better than XBOX360.
IMO, look at the games you like and buy the system accordinly. I like Nintendo’s games (not lately though) so I bought a Wii, those who were really into the Halo series got an XBOX360 and those who liked the FF and Metal Gear series got PS3s. Just buy the system you think you’ll enjoy more, not with how powerful it’s hardware is. If people cared only about raw power the Wii wouldn’t have outsold both of its rivals like it has.
That’s great in concept but you’ve obviously never played CSS. Ever since they put toggles in their hacks it has become increasingly hard to catch hackers. The CLs have this ability so that those special individuals that no one can get a good demo of can still be banned. As Liam said, it is doubtful that this rule will be removed as it would force the execs and CLs to take demos of even the most obvious hackers.
If you’ll remember not that long ago the issue came up of whether or not to ban someone because their main account they had been using on our server was VAC banned. The player had been banned several times but because of the “burden of proof” that normal admins have they could never get a demo that made the ban stick. Now obviously he was hacking or he wouldn’t have been VAC banned. Had this power been utilized then it would have saved a ton of headaches as most of the admins on the server were watching his every move and everytime he got banned everyone who hadn’t spent all that time spec’ing him thought he was completely innocent.
Lawlrence has been on the admin’s “watch list” for months. This whole situation didn’t start overnight. You’d actually be surprised how sketchy some players get when they don’t think admins are on. With some players, it’s almost night and day.
lawlrence said:
@ MasterP, I’ll repeat, just because you dont’ have to provide demos doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. Relevant. Also I’m not sure how I’m supposed to know the innerworkings of the club if I don’t go to wcu and I’m not allowed to the lans. So yes I will make mistakes about who makes what rules and who’s in charge of what. If that’s sad to you then maybe you should post a thread explaining all of it so that people will know.The club constitution is on the website for all to see.
Pink Monkey #13 said:
haha. dumbass. i just feel sorry for the store owner who had all that merchandise damaged, not to mention the building.I do believe he has sufficient proof for an insurance claim.
Can you give us a list of games you’re interested in playing on it? It’ll help us gauge what you need.
Now I did this once yesterday because a player who was already constantly baiting teammates let a single enemy plow through our entire team’s flank while he chased him with a knife. When you let 5 teammates die because you’re using a knife, that’s wrong.
I don’t think it was me in the story because I didn’t explain why I slayed him or give a “if you don’t use a weapon, QQ, I’ll punish” ultimatum. It also didn’t happen for more than 1 round.
I can see how this can be extremely frustrating because the knifer really isn’t helping the team comeback out of their losing streak at all. He’s pretty much deadweight on the team. That doesn’t make it ok to slay him though, just move him to the other team and put a player who cares about actually playing the game on the losing team in his place.
Peanut, is there any way you can give a more accurate date/time so I can look this up in the logs?
peanut said:
I gather in terms of performance, graphics, controllers, noise, size – there isn’t much difference?The PS3 is suppsed to be “so much better” but so far I really just haven’t seen it. At the rate it’s going I imagine they won’t use the full potential until it’s about too late to make a difference in this generation of consoles, which is a shame because it’s the same mistake that Nintendo has made on every console since the SNES. You’d think they would have learned by now.
yousillyGoose said:
a computer that will support the game?You want him to be able to play the game or enjoy it?
For completeness:
lawlrence said:
IMO you gave the admins too much power. You know why I feel this of course, but I’ll go ahead and elaborate for all to read. To be able to ban someone for hacking without any demo’s is ridiculous. I’ve read through the demo’s threads and I see that it’s a collaboration of people who carefully exam the gameplay of the player in question in light of what he/she is thought to have done. Also with demos you can change the model type so that you yourself can see through walls and get a good feel for whether or not said player is actually looking at something through them. When you have one admin spec a player in game and then ban them permanently without any grounds for appeal or anything other admins can look at to give their opinion on the subject, that is not only asking for abuse(which is not what I think happened in my case), but is also asking for a lot of mistakenly banned players. What if the admin missed something, like footsteps, an ally seeing them on radar, a place a player repeatedly goes everyround, or just a common spot that players like to go. I think that was the whole reason you had the demo system, because even admins make mistakes. However this new system either assumes they don’t, or just doesn’t care about losing active players in the server. Either way I enjoyed playing in the wcu server, obviously since I played there so much. I could always count having a friend online in there to play with, even if was at 2 in the morning, and I’ll see all of you at the Feb. 28th? wcu lan to redeem myself and win on lan =].p.s. this is not meant as a flame but as constructive criticism
lawlrence said:
Real mature. You show how much you deserve CL.edit: for people who do not know, this thread was originally a feedback thread for MasterP(started by himself) but when I posted criticism he renamed it moved the first several posts.
Get over yourself. It wasn’t me that split the topic. Since you couldn’t move it to another thread the webmaster moved it for you.
Once again I remind you that this is a COMPLETELY different issue as I had nothing to do with the rules that govern CLs nor do I have any control over the amount of power we are given. To claim that I would give myself power and then target the playerbase unjustly proves that you really don’t know me or how I run the server. It’s a shame the dispite how long you and your clan have played here, only a small handful of you really have a firm grasp or understanding of how things are governed within the server, club, and executive hierarchy.
If you have a complaint about the way the club is run, then take that complaint to the appropriate people. Mindlessly droning on and on to me or about me won’t get you anywhere because I don’t have the power to make the change you want.
And now that this is it’s own topic, let me explain things. The CL has the final say for a good reason. If rQ owned it’s own server, would you expect the guy who pays the bill every month and runs the backend of the server to not have a final say over what happens on his server? Sure there are checks and balances but without being overridden he would have control over how things were run. The server owner/operator is understood to be knowledgeable about and have sound judgement in how they run their server. Considering the fact that the server is still populated and that we have had almost no admin abuse complaints since I took over as CL, I would say the server is being run fairly well.
Thanks for coming forward with this.
So that I can look this up in the logs, when did this happen and which admins were doing it?
Also, did you do anything that might have instigated this such as trash talk players or disrespect the admins?
dmez said:
I need a computer that can run left 4 dead, for as cheap as possible. Either put together or not doesn’t matter.try to make it under $400.
You’re joking, right?
In that price range I don’t know that it’s possible.
I want feedback on ME. Not a long, drawn out discussion over a policy I didn’t write or have any control over.
Sorry you got caught. Derailing other threads won’t help you.
Kaz-Ka said:
Another plus is the fact that you are buying a blue ray playerYeah but standalone blue ray players are almost half the price of a PS3 now.
peanut said:
Not that I know your in-game names or anything, but physically seeing your presence would be nice from time to time (as MasterP or something recognizable – such as CSS:CL
~).I’m in there all the time but usually not even the other admins know who I am. I’ve found it’s easier to gauge how the community feels about things when they don’t know I’m around. I’ve also found that people behave many times better when they know I’m on and as much as I like a well behaved server, it often helps to see how players, and admins, act when they don’t know the server op is watching.
And yes, in this thread I am the only flame target. <_>
Shingi said:
As far as harddrives go it doesn’t really matter what size you get. The only reason you would need a bigger sized harddrive for the console would be for the DLC (downloadable content) you can get from Xbox Live or downloading a game to the box itself for faster load times (not really a noticeable difference).Can’t you upgrade it later anyway if you know how to transfer the OS?
Get a 360. There aren’t hardly any good PS exclusives anymore and IMO the Xbox exclusives are just as good.
I can’t believe Sony would give up their best selling exclusive like that. Stupid, IMO. Then again, they probably just want to sell the game and having it a PS3 exclusive would seriously hurt sales.
.cb new_rayz said:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/16…ration-history/Inauguration ceremony is coming up soon, PPPAAARRRTTTEHHH!! lol
It’s going to be something ridiculous, like over forty thousand people.
I thought there were supposed to be millions of people? When did the number become realistic?
YouWinGameOver said:
Once again you have failed to answer my other questions from earlier I want to know…”What I have to ask you is if more then 3/4 of the people who carried out the attacks on 9/11 why did we attack Sadam Hussein and go into Afghanistan? Was it not Saudi Arabia’s fault?”They were trained, armed, and lead from Afghanistan. Unlike Obama, Bush doesn’t discuss attacking allied nations on national television.
YouWinGameOver said:
Why do republicans constantly compare a somewhat socialist agenda to communism. It is no where close to it. Communism is everyone getting the exact same pay for doing whatever job they get.Socialism is the stepping stone to communism. If you need a history book I’ll be glad to mail you one. But even by your own definition of communism, if a doctor gets paid $250,000 but pays 60% taxes for being “rich” and an engineer gets paid $100,000 but is tax exempt from being “middle-class”, they get the same paychecks. This whole “tax the rich more” system can only lead to communism.
YouWinGameOver said:
Yes I do believe that paying taxes is our patriotic duty otherwise our country would crumble. Your version of the perfect conservative/republican world automatically becomes Anarchy and therefore I win. Peoplle Have to pay taxes there is no question about this. That is how the potholes in your street gets fixed or when it snows your road gets plowed.Yes people have to pay taxes. No my potholes aren’t getting fixed and no my streets don’t get plowed. Raising the taxes won’t do anything for the infrastructure because state governments routinely pull money from highway and infrastructure funds to balance out the general budget. Taxes aren’t the answer to infrastructure, actually giving a *edited* is.
YouWinGameOver said:
And yes there are a lot of people that I am mad at because they make an over satiable amount of money for doing nothing. No matter what you say our country is not how hard you work but who you blow. Those rats sitting in office and congress and senate or even the mayor of your town has most likely taken a bribe or two and weaseled there ways into office.That I can agree with. The leads of this country should be taken from the average joe population. The fastest way to implement this would be an immediate 2 term limit on congressmen and senators as well as a 10 year limit on supreme court justices and state legislators. That won’t happen so get over it.
YouWinGameOver said:
I did not disagree with every action Bush has made but I do feel that he is one of the worst presidents we have ever had and I do feel that he did not deserve office. I am glad it was him who was there when 9/11 happened because I do not believe Kerry could have handled it. But I do not believe that he went after the right group of people.History will prove different but it will take a good 30 years for the real historians to start writing the truth. I think there’s been alot of stuff going on behind the scenes that if brought to light would have helped his short-term legacy. There were several attacks that were prevented, both here and abroad, from our increased intelligence gathering operations and from “torturing” prisoners captured during our “illegal wars”. As much as you might hate to admit it, they are bad people and they do want to kill us by any means necessary. Hell they kill their own people for being a different sect of the religion.
I am glad to see liberals finally admit that Kerry would have lead this country down the wrong path after 9/11. I honestly didn’t think any of you would ever admit it.
