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That’s why CS:P is gonna be so awesome. http://www.cspromod.com
Kuros will be there. You can bring up meeting notifications at the meeting if you would like. I’m leaving now.
ZAattackCH@WCU said:
i think all the ranking systems suck and there needs to be a better one made lolWe are thinking about the possibility of writing a new stats system.
I even jump around like a retard. I just don’t exploit the server variables to fly around at super speed.
The server wasn’t set up you so that you could exploit it. I don’t have to change any server cvars. They won’t get changed unless it’s something that can’t be managed. Bunny hopping is one of those things that are easy to manage. If we ask you to stop and you don’t, the punishments ensue. You have formerly been asked to stop, I suggest you do so.
If people keep abusing this, I’m turning off airaccel and that’s going to be really lame for everyone else.
pinkcs said:
Wow… the amount of people who don’t get it. Point mods are great and all, but sometimes its nice to ‘talk’ about opinions without them having to be taken overly seriously.I’m actually interested in learning about things like weapon usage, weapon physics, what people think and why – if anyone can continue this topic in that direction please do. Thats all I’m trying to do, so lets all get over the modifer crisis please?
I would recommend starting a new thread if you would like to go in that direction. I’m also curious as to what people have to say.
pinkcs said:
Disscusion doesn’t have to all about the executives and their decisions, maybe discussion can be about a topic people like to discuss so that a better understanding is available/attainable. Maybe discussion can be the community throwing ideas back and forth and not just setting up opinion-pins to be bowled down.These point mods were made by the executives and will not be discussed much farther than this. Certain people are going to complain about certain weapons. This thread is solid proof.
He’s just hidden, his stats are still there. All of the bomb culprits will stay hidden until my stats nuker is done.
You presume to know more than you actually do. Maybe you should take a look at your sig and follow the image you have so appropriately chosen.
If you complain about my TF2 server, I will kill your face.
pinkcs said:
Shottie, Para… P90, Deagle even the awps, are situational weapons. The points really should’ve been aimed more at evening the usage between Main weapons and these situational ones.As many games use classes to increase the variety of play, CS has always had its select variety of weaponary. I think a few of the .mod scores are a touch on the harsh side (and could be brought closer to being inline with the 1pt mark if not relinquished), more so to do with opinion than with the actual unbias facts.
Although I’m not going to be restricted into only using higher point .mod weaponary, this very fact makes the changes seem to be reasoned to lower the ability of players who bring such colour and variety to the server to be seen to perform well. It really doesn’t accomplish more than that.
I’ve done a lot of websearching the past few days and have read no mention about the unbalancing effect of shotgun aim (not that it doesnt have decent aim, but it seems the gun is balanced to Valves standards and could easily be reasoned as shotguns are a point a shoot weapon and the skill in their use ‘can’ be more about positioning than overly well aimed shots), or the constant overkill caused by a P90. The only weapons that get grief are sniper rifles, its only here that people seem to want to criminalize the high point scoring potential (only met by less than 1% of the server, and sometimes only under certain conditions) that some guns afford. This means while excelling players will no longer have overly high scores with certain guns, average players will find it very difficult for those guns to be anywhere near as effective point wise as the standard rifles.
We already go through AK vs M4 wars nearly for the majority of every game, and that type of stale gameplay isn’t something that really should be aspired to.
Obvious troll is obvious.
HexFlex said:
Psychostats 2 is so much better then HLstats >.<Hlstats works, phsycho does not. Still think it’s better?
Get as many kills as you want. We are not discriminating against popular weapons. Otherwise the m4 and ak would be lower.
NoDice said:
aka planting the bomb 500 timeslol…I’m writing a plugin to fix that. I can temporarily fix it for now, but it won’t do anything fully until I clear it from the database. This is where I need adam to call gxti and get me the login/password for mysql.
Fyi, this was in the talks before you even started regging here. I just didn’t have access to the stats page. We don’t aim things at anyone who isn’t trying to exploit something.
Ok, to the best of my memory:
The ak and m4a1 are set where they are because they are mainstream and do not in our opinion require as much skill as the galil/famas. That being said, we set the galil/famas at 1.2 to compensate for this. They are slightly harder to use and thus should be more rewarding.
The awp is set where it is due to it’s 1 shot nature. It has actually been moved up substantially from where it was before because unlike the previous person in charge of stats, I do believe the awp requires a good deal of skill to truly be successful with.
The deagle has been knocked down due to it’s 1 shot kill tendencies as well as to keep some manner of control with points gained/lost on deagle5.
The rest of the pistols were left at hlstats defaults because we felt that they were at a fair modifer already.
The autosnipers were crippled because it takes nothing to be good with one.
The hegrenade went up because of the rarity of the hegrenade kill as well as the decrease in warmup time.
The knife went up because we felt it should.
The para and shotguns went down because the shotgun is broken (no accuracy lost when jumping as well as over powered) and because Brian wanted the para at .8. 100 bullets? Jesus Christ…
The smgs went up to 1.1 because they are slightly harder to use than the rifles. The ump went up more because it’s terrible.
Flashes and smokes were not changed.
The p90 was lowered because of the 50 shots of *edited* near no recoil at close range. Too many times we’ve seen teams get rolled over in a hallway with a p90.
The autoshotty was left alone because like the ump, it’s terrible.
That’s the main reasoning for these modifiers. Hope that clarifies.
NoDice said:
very good, nice to mix tings up…but whats with the “non negotiable.” haven’t even tried these in the server and got any real time feedback. thats one think our “CLUB” has, always open to change for the community. Bring people to campus to discuss these changes and to become one of the elite crew
shhhhhhhhhhh!!! It took long enough to decide on those.
pinkcs said:
Not sure what the above was in reference to then. Kuros?I’m confused, if sorting out peoples point values is easy… whats the reason for the poll on resetting everyones stats? Has there been an executive discussion about some trouble with the stats we’ve all missed? It’s just seeming a little whimsical and out of the blue.
No, someone had suggested it and I knew this vote would fail. The plugin will nuke the stats of individuals. I’ll have it done within a couple weeks. It’s 2nd priority to the LAN event.
