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Not to mention OSX is crap. There aren’t any stability problems that Windows has and OSX doesn’t. Someones been devouring all the brainwashing propaganda from those stupid (and lying) “I’m a Mac and I’m a PC” commercials.
People that like Windows XP over Windows Vista have obviously never worked as a service technician. Also my Windows 7 Ultimate retail should be here within 2 weeks. I am winrar.
Kaz-Ka said:
Ok, I see where you guys are coming from. I guess we could keep things the way they are now and just roll with it. As long we dont have a massive drop off of people on the servers I’ll just leave it be.No don’t, you made a policy now enforce it. I think it’s a great idea. If people abuse it they are making it clear that they are admins that we don’t need and it takes less than 30 seconds to remove someone. You can’t go on letting these PC guys be afraid of change. That’s why the PC side is dying. New policy isn’t going to hurt anything and it’s so easy to change it if it doesn’t work.
Also @ Mitch: if Warcraft games “don’t appeal to the majority of gamers” Why are there over 10 million subscribers to World of Warcraft worldwide?
Nickname said:
buy this keyboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx…N82E16823239006
Out of 10 reviews 20% are bad reviews lol.
I would save the money you’re wasting on an aftermarket CPU cooler and that 20 bucks and buy a G15 series keyboard.
MasterP said:
Would there happen to be a set of instructions somewhere that are a little more detailed?Btw, boot.ini is old news.
In the words of our lord almighty Nickname.
MasterP said:
Where do you think GRUB latches in at?There’s a very specific process that an OS must go through to boot. The computer doesn’t see an OS and magically decide to start booting it. Linux is no different. Now if you want to split hairs and say linux doesn’t control the mbr or bootsector knowing full well that GRUB does then you’re essentially arguing to argue as linux is the only OS that uses it. It’d be like saying Microsoft BCD controls the boot process, not windows when you know *edited* well only Vista/Win2008/Win7 use it.
Nickname:
I’m saying that you never need to put grub anywhere near the mbr to load Linux. You’re saying you can’t do it thru the Windows chainloader and I’m telling you you can. Take grub (not installed) make it into a .bin file and put it on C: (again NON LINUX) and point boot.ini at it (again NOT IN LINUX). The Windows bootloader will see the extra OS in the boot.ini file which you then select. It goes into the grub.bin file and starts init from that which loads Linux.
tl;dr you can load Linux without putting grub in the MBR.
MasterP said:
Source?O btw, I’m talking about having linux NOT hardcoded into the bootsector or MBR. To my knowledge the methods used to boot linux from the vista loader still require linux be hardcoded into the bootsector. I have yet to see what you claim I don’t know about be done with XP’s bootloader.
I don’t need a source I know how to do it. All you need to do is make the grub stage 1 boot loader into a .bin and point boot.ini at it. Then you can boot Linux from the Windows boot loader menu. This does not require Linux to be “hardcoded” into the bootsector (which it doesn’t do anyways, Linux doesn’t have a boot loader. All it has is init which must be initialized by a boot loader such as grub, lilo, or ext linux) and wouldn’t work if Linux was “hardcoded” into the mbr.
I should also point out that the Windows bootloader can in fact boot Linux. I’m not sure what Kip is talking about. Either one can boot the other.
MasterP said:
Any word on when linux is going to get over themselves and write a windows compatible bootstrap that can be used in the xp/vista/win7 bootloader?You know they can do it and from the outside looking in it looks like the only thing stopping them is their own pride. “Use our bootloader or you don’t use our OS”.
What are you even talking about? You obviously have no idea how Linux boots.
Nickname said:
Anyone know if fedora is still the pure open distro it used to be; aka it doesn’t have anything that isn’t open-source built in which includes things like flash and some of the nvidia/ati drivers? Cause if it is, I really don’t want that. I get easily annoyed trying to install all of that stuff from command line, and I would like it to work pretty much out of the box if possible.Let’s put it this way. My wireless did not work on install in Fedora and it does after activating the driver in Ubuntu. Manually configuring ndiswrapper is not fun…look it up or ask falcon.
Nickname said:
ok here’s another question: KDE or Gnome? I know Fedora comes with both, Mandriva is KDE I think, Ubuntu is Gnome, idk what openSUSE is.I honestly don’t really know the differences between the two other than KDE’s taskbar looks more similar to windows than Gnome’s does.
GNOME is really plain and easy to use. It doesn’t come with as many configuration options as KDE does. For this reason a lot of people feel like it’s too dumbed down and that they sacrifice usability to make sure people don’t break things. tl;dr it’s OS X. If you break it you really really *edited*ed something up.
KDE looks and performs way better. It has TONS of configuration options and TONS of configuration options that can break your system. KDE also has a lot more applications developed for it than GNOME does. Some of them are useless (ie Koffice, who’s going to use that over OOo?) But does have some nice applications like superkamba for desktop widgets. KDE also changed with 4.0 so that EVERYTHING is a widget on the desktop. Your actual desktop is a widget that you can turn on and off. Same thing with the taskbar, etc. Once you get used to it, it’s a really really nice concept. tl;dr this is what you should use because you (Nickname) are not retarded. I actually deleted my taskbar and built a new one from scratch because I didn’t like the way the default one looked. That’s the power of KDE.
1. Ubuntu has the best out of the box configurations and one of the largest software libraries. It also has an easy to use driver installation service that automatically sets up things like xorg.conf for you so that you don’t have to mess with it or compile the driver from source. apt is an awesome package management software and .deb > .rpm. No package selection at install.
2. Fedora also has a mega repo but most of them are “release early and release often” builds that can sometimes be buggy. Most commonly used software will be stable enough to use. More cutting edge or new software will be more buggy. Uses yum which is a decent package manager and rpm packages which are well supported and easy to understand once you get the naming scheme down. More installation options (package selection) can either make your install easier or more complicated. Generally has a newer kernel than Ubuntu.
3. OpenSUSE only just became “open” a few months ago. It hasn’t followed many of Linux’s “fundamental philosophies”. It does have a nice library and is supported by two mega-corporations (Microsoft and Novell). For these reasons, I’m not a huge fan of “Open”SUSE.
4. Mandriva was the original Ubuntu. The “Linux for dummies” back when it was still Mandrake. For this reason it’s also good out of the box like Ubuntu. If it were me, Ubuntu would be #1 and Mandriva #2. It also uses rpm package management which I’m still not a huge fan of.
You probably knew all of this but maybe some people didn’t. I’d go with Ubuntu (and did) and never look back.
I wasn’t aware that Obama was creating a healthplan strictly for Nazis. Thanks for enlightening me. It’s great to see that he is so concerned about such a minority population. Nazis have really been taking a bad rap and I’m pretty sure their current healthplan options stink. Do you know if his plan covers hair regeneration? I hear most of those Nazi people have some hair issues.
MasterP said:
I know, you just went through it oftly fast is all. That card was never worth it’s price and even at the time wasn’t the best on the market.Why don’t you come up with a $450 build for him and join in the fun.
Didn’t your graphics card cost over $600? And you flame me for spending $399. At the time there as the 9800GX2 and the GTX280. For the games that I most frequently played the 9800 got better scores for WAY less money. That’s why I bought it.
MasterP said:
I find it odd that you two bash the whole “spend $800 and be happy for 2 years” thing.Nickname you’ve gone through more laptops in the last 2 years than most people go through in a lifetime. What are you up to now? 7? 8?
Kuros you bought a dual-GPU card. Your money advice is, well…
I wasn’t on a budget, thanks. I bought the card that best suited my needs (at the time).
Also I’d like to point out that not everyone has $800 to blow on a new pc. Some people have to do the best with what they have.
MasterP said:
You about have to go Phenom to meet that price and the majority of the Phenom IIs are still slower than the Q6600. If the goal is medium settings you’d do fine with an Nvidia 7600
Also, did I read that right? Did AMD pull an Nvidia and recycle older cards into the new family
Here’s my shot. Little more but it’s also more powerful.
Thermaltake M9 VI1000BWS Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case – Retail
Item #: N82E16811133058
$59.88 – $10 MIR
Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU 500W ATX 12V 2.0 Power Supply – Retail
Item #: N82E16817153052
$54.99 – $22 MIR
ASUS P5QL PRO LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard – Retail
Item #: N82E16813131329
$86.99
Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9400 – Retail
Item #: N82E16819115131
$189.99
CORSAIR XMS2 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C5C – Retail
Item #: N82E16820145241
$54.99 – $20 MIR
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5″ Internal Hard Drive – OEM
Item #: N82E16822136074
$49.99
XFX PVT96OZDFU GeForce 9600 GSO 1GB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card – Retail
Item #: N82E16814150340
$79.99 – $20 MIR
FREE – Call of Duty World at War
Use existing 16x DVDRW drive
Cost: $576.82
MIR: $72
Final Cost: $504.82
Looks like even you can get one in the 450-500 range. And you said it was impossible. GG proving yourself wrong.
MasterP said:
Then again if you think “NICE” means using cheap, *edited*-poor, off-brand, or used parts to meet the $400 requirement then by all means…I just built one with a 4870 graphics card, core2 quad, decent power supply from thermaltake, 4 gigs of corsair ram, gigabyte mainboard and even with a $200 monitor it was around 900 bucks. NONE of that is *edited*poor or offbrand. I don’t build *edited*ty computers and I’m offended that you would imply that I do. It would be easy to shave off some excess money from that build to get something decent that would last 2 years or so. Long term no way…but something to game with for a bit, sure.
MasterP said:
With what you have now you won’t get anything decent at gaming for less than $800.You’re looking at a power supply, motherboard, processor, RAM, and video card at the absolute minimum. It looks like you’ve got a half-tower case so you’ll probably need a new case as well to fit the newer video cards.
If your hard drive is over 2 years old you’ll want to replace it with a newer SATAII just for the speed, reliability and space needed for modern games.
You might get away with it at $600 but it would be using older generation parts and when you wanted to upgrade again in a year or two you’d have to rebuild the whole thing again.
I disagree. I could build him a NICE rig for 450-500.
There is no such thing as a “good” gaming laptop. /flame. I don’t care. They get hot and cook themselves from the inside out. Better to buy a crummy laptop and a decent to good desktop. Probably cheaper that way anyways than spending 1400-2000 on a laptop. I just built an EXTREMELY nice desktop for about 800 bucks. Then you could throw on a cheap laptop for 400 or so and come out the same price but with a much more capable gaming system and tons more in the way of storage options.
Overall, it’s up to you, but that’s what I’d do.
Mr. PMosh said:
the sniper/spy update or which one?All of them. And dispensers that heal. You can add that to my list of grievances. It makes it so *edited* to try and kill a sentry with a non explosive class (ie heavys) while an engineer sits beating on it while he’s being healed.
