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i was thinking adding PL_Dustbowl,, same maps just different gameplay. The CP’s are replaced with a new train track w/payload cart. this will allow keeping the fitting title of 24/7 goldrush/dustbowl
View the map here: http://www.fpsbanana.com/maps/54701
its a good map, played it a bunch
wouldent mind have the rotation CP_dustbowl, PL_goldrush, PL_dustbowl
maybe even CP_dustbowl, PL_goldrush, PL_dustbowl PL_goldrush just to split up the dustbowls
idk what do you all think?
i’m hoping we can migrate ppl over to the regular rotation server when they got board of playing the same 2 maps over and over. Dont think it would be a hard push,, when the server is full, just spam info directing to our other server IP. 2fort is in that rotation i believe.
i was hoping you were going to say something as you were in their a solid 2 and a half hours w/o leaving. you made a post and went back online
The max i saw was someone in their for a solid 3hr’s and he’s applying for admin 
Dont know if the rest of the night will be as successful as today, but if it is,, we should add a auto message popup directing ppl over to the other server. or maybe once we get some regulars here admins and such, they will get board and try our other server… time will tell i gess.. very very early in the game… however i am suprized myself to see it take off.. Doesn’t look like i will have people pointing and laughing at me…
/wipes sweat from foreheadFor most part full server since 3pm and its Currently 1am and we still got 8 in their. 1.6 has 6ppl and CS:S has 3… I am shockked.
Would not be a success if it was not for you guys,,, THANK YOU FOR TRYING This is what the club needs.
sweet thanks again liam…
so far i’v had me and 5random others.. not giving hopes up yet..
Roundtime
- I have noticed that after ~20mins the map changes at the next “checkpoint” we need it to be set so after the entire map has played, all 4 levels as blue and all 4 levels as red. then the map changes… Really not sure that cvar.. i’ll be looking for it though
Spwntime
- Yeah, 2 seconds was to short, by setting it at 2seconds the freeze frame never accured. I would like to set it up so it freezframes and then you spwn instantly after that.
it doesent take me 5mins, thats crazy long.. but it does seem to take longer than any other game.
do you have preatty good internet ephraim?
Few things i noticed
MOTD
- The MOTD file needs to be edited so that it not the default message… I love how nicknames welcome screen comes up with the rules and rotation. I would like to clean it up a bit and refure to the website for the rules. since noone reads them anywho and the space could be left for promotions. IDK the html or w/e code, but i would think something along the lines of this in the purple and gold theme.. maybe say something like:
Western Carolina University welcomes you to their TeamFortress 2 server. Map Rotation: pl_goldrush pl_goldrush cp_dustbowl cp_dustbowl cp_dustbowl ..and repeat Come visit the community forums for latest news, great friends, and a good time. www.WCUgaming.org To Contact an admin Visit our IRC channel: WCUgaming.org/irc.php We are currently recruiting server Admins for our TF2 servers, find out more at wcugaming.org Server IP: gaming.wcu.edu:27035 <-- dont forget to add us Injoy & Have Fun :P
Respwn Time:
- Because after dead this is a 5 second freeze frame of your killie, i would like to see a 2 second respwn time.. making the total time to join back ingame from death ~7secs
Mods:
- It was originally brought up to add the party mod,, I have decided “for now” to stay away from mods. Because if you add mods to the server the ingame server list has a new tab called “custom servers” and just a quick peek and you can see noone looks their.. thus why we should stay away.
Fill free to add anything, or comment about anything. Let us know how its working, and anyway to make it more enjoyable
Add me grifnasty to your steam friends if you would like to know when we are playing.for the normal tf2 server, i got an error that my map differs from the server.
It just needs the latest maps, they had changed them around a bit.
MasterP said:
Dice, always argueing until he gets what he wants.GL HF on your new server.
first of idk what GL HF means?
Secondly, dont hate the player hate the game.
Thirdly it should be “Dice, always argues until he gets what he wants.”
Falcon said:
sticky’d at the top of the TF2 forums, for your reading pleasure:wow, ok i fail
Falcon said:
a few quick comments:one – TF2 has no bots available as does counter-strike. thus when it drops to a literal 0 pop then it will be sneezed at by anyone looking to play. Even if we make all the changes, we need people to commit to being in the server at a set time slot and for them to announce it as such so that we can form up a decent population. If you would like to do that, that will help pop the server, just you could be idling it solo for the better part of several hours (done that several times). Do I hear an offer? They said it themself,, they can get 3-4 ppl to go in and only a few ppl will join and leave. the problem isnot getting people to come it. its keeping them. and you better beleave me i will be ideling it if it were a decent setup, i just not going to bother ideling it now b/c i dont fell as it is set up good. its been tested, fail, changes, re-tested fial.. and has been sitting on fail for awile….. we clearly need change.
two – the servers aren’t “allotted” a portion of the server’s power to my knowledge. They just run, and if they bottleneck they bottleneck. I don’t know where you’re going with that.
I was pointing out the fact that this is room. curent server = dead, adding another one thats pop will be the same as if the current one is pop. curent one = fail = nopop. we need pop.
three – it’d be *edited* foolish to add another TF2 server and try to pop 2, given that just 1 is as difficult as it is. This isn’t like the movie Field of Dreams – “If you build it, they will come”.
Adding another server was only a sudjestion around the petty point kipm was trying to make abut 24/7 servers. I would rather just have one server… but not getting any bites… /tosses in more bait.
four – I’ve CL’d two servers that didn’t pop and one that did, and did nothing different. Our server will draw crowds because of the people that are playing here, not what they’re playing. People have made our counter-strike servers what they are because the people themselves are awesome. TF2 Fridays are about getting our regulars over there so that we can start drawing people in around the people we already have… that’s gonna take time, and you’re welcome to help out. call people up and tell them about TF2 fridays.
True & Never herd of this TF2 fridays,, and i check every post… all the time… its retarted. lol
five – you’d have a much better chance at a good thorough discussion about changing the server(s) if you would be more polite and friendly, don’t just walk in and start bashing.
/me is tired of people not TRYING…
six – the name change – no. I’m not even gonna argue that coz i’ll make no sense just ranting and raving, but the cs1.6 and cs:s servers are doing just fine and haven’t had quirky names.
petty point, but if we went with only 2 of the most pop maps, it really should be in the server title.
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the one thing I can think of that would maybe give this server a good quick boost is just have volunteers squat it and run down achievements with people, and be nice about it.
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Nickname said:
That is not true. Just because I don’t know exactly where pl_goldrush is on the server, I do know it has been there for well over a month.i’m not talking about the pm i sent you today or yesterday. that was a response i got from you over irc.
Nickname said:
wow it took me until now to learn who magical penguin is. Such deceit man. Such deceit.admincp is greatt
well i was goign to step away, but gotta fight the facts…
so here it goes..
MasterP said:
There are other servers that have been proposed that have a much higher chance of self populating than the one you’ve suggested. Before we get another TF2, we’ll be getting a CSS Zombie and Surf.Befor we add more servers, lets get the ones we have working… right? I was simply saying change the current one, or add another one. Doesent seem like kip wonts to add another one. So lets get the current one working… Also i dont see anywere discession of this zombie/surf server… Yeah TAG has them both, and they are fun to play on… and are sucessful…go play their… WCUG =! TAG. to me is seems like your are trying to turn this into them. however, i agree with pulling in success from other gaming community that are going good. We have CS:S games, lets branch out into other games.
You’ve been playing TF2 for a month, some of us have been playing for the better part of a year.
I have played since beta.
Btw, the who “you’ve only played once in the past <insert time period>” thing has already been used by people in this club and was proven horribly wrong. Just because we don’t play much NOW doesn’t mean he havn’t played long enough to know what we’re talking about. People said I didn’t know about the CSS server and look now, I seem to be fitting the CL role pretty *edited* good.
CS:S hasent changed much as far as server settings go since you became CL. However, a *edited*ing *edited* ton and ahalf has change with TF2. Srly, Nickname knows he’s not active, i dont need to point it out. We did not even have any of the pl maps on the list until ~2 weeks ago. I even asked him, and he said whats pl maps…. lol. cane in point, just trying to help make the changes since changes are clearly not being made.
Nickname has played TF2 enough to win at 3 LANs, one of which was at a rival school. Try to have at least some respect as he does have a clue about the workings of TF2.
100% respect here. I have said noting disrespectful. I have not applied anything disrespectful. Congrats nickname on your pyro skills. But when it comes to setting up servers, You need some input from people that play alot. Thus why i’m helping you, as well as WCU gaming Succeed.
Liam said:
We cannot add more servers without having a meeting to vote on it.I see no reason either to load down the server with more running gameservers, especially those that aren’t even populated now.
You’ve made your point penguin, you can cease beating it into our heads. We will take it under advisement and make some decisions tonight, since we are reinstalling everything anyway.
yippie, <3 Liam. Good luck on the format.
i srly will help in any way that i can. but not sure what i.r trusted with as far as the Tf2 server goes.
Please note another observation:
May i ask what is the current server load? I mean we have only 2 active servers up on a $10,000 box. Cant be that much… My point being currently TF2 is allotted __% load correct? its using nearly 0%. Thus by adding another server,, (which may or may not be a pop) its just like the current one was actually active.
observation number two:
Their was never a vote when we added the 1.6 GG server. we had a CL for 1.6 and the server was simply added.
100% exact same thing can be said about the Source:GG server. We had a CL, and it was added. no votes..
Also note: No where does it say a vote must occur to add a server which has a leader.
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Magical Penguen will gladly step back away from the mic,, and waits to see what happens tonight <3
I know the setting dont make a server. dont think i have ever sad they did.
Does everyone think the current TF2 server is fine the way it is???? if so i’ll drop it
is it that hard to add another server to TRY
YahooEarth said:
AGAIN, I think just because you have the correct settings, people do not automatically join up…TRUE
As master P pointed out, it takes weeks/months to get a consistently populated server with regulars in it…
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Now because it is a WCU server, you might get the few people from the forums, so that’s what, 2-4 people and assuming they stay on consistently everyday during peak hours, maybe that will help. And if they get a friend or 2 everyday then yea you can get roughly 10 people in.
TRUE, and TRUE
But if you don’t get a full server at peak hours for what I would guess maybe 3 weeks? Then I do not see the server staying populated.
BINGO,, guess what,, thats the current situation.
Anyways….my 2 pents…
Thanks for the Reply Yahoo<3
Attached config also edit first post.
well since your OBVIOUSLY not going to change anything on your server.. Will you (or allow me) phat chance,, to make the changes that need to be made.. Its not going to magically become epic doing nothing and watching it sit their no matter how long you sit. trust me,, i know majic.
I HAVE PUT IN COUNTLESS HR’S PLAYING TF2 WITHIN THE PAST MONTH, I KNOW MY SETTINGS WILL WORK. ALL THE POP SERVERS ARE RUNNING SETTINGS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I PROPOSED. THEY WORK.
/return to regular typing.
you have only played 1 hr in the past 2 weeks of TF2……………………………………speaks for itself……..no comment.
please create another server,, whats to loose?
well other then that fact that i was right.
MasterP said:
Just an FYI, if he tries your rotation and for whatever reason it fails, you probably won’t be listened to again when it comes to server suggestions. Nothing personal, just a heads up. That sort of promise can backfire in a jack flash.Their, i highlighted it so everyone will read. I’m Confident my suggestions well bring community to WCU. if not,, well fill free to point and laugh at me for the rest of my life. srly.
Nickname said:
penguin: when you join our TF2 server, besides the map, what do you see that needs to be changed? Cause like masterp said just chainging the map will not a populated server make.I did not only sudjest maps. Infact, that this shows you all are not reading my post. You see one thing that you dont like and forget everythign else that is said. “thats how i fill anywho, weather it be true or not” Please go RE:read
i’m sure masterP is correct about his TAG servers. but were they srly as dead as our TF2 server?
You said need something to keep them here.. how about this.. (This is another suggestion) keep the current server for people that like diversity, My proposed server settings will bring them here. and the other server will keep them here. Win/Win, everyone is happy. …anyways the current dead tf2 server cant have that much of a server load.
also go RE:read rentons post. In this thread, and his huge list of recommendations everyone ignored in his old post.
Renton, wanna help me pop this server?
if you can get ppl and it doesent pop,, something is wrong.
PLEASE CHANGE IT
i’m not the only one,, if you havent read. My setup is full of WIN. Hold my word.
Nickname said:
the problem is us getting those 2-3 ppl to get it started, and even then we never seem to get more than about 6-7 at a time.you said it yourself. You can get 3-4 people. Even then people dont stay. this is a classic example of fail. Can you not see that?
Nickname said:
Now I have tried throwing everything but the kitchen sink at this server to make it work. If you all want to try moving it to 24/7 whatever then go for it but I truly don’t believe that will fix a *edited* thing.lets do it. What is it going to hurt? The way it is set up it stays empty.
Make a backup of the current so when school starts back up fill free to put it back. But have we brought in even one person to our community from our current TF2 setup?
We cant be afraid of change. From what i have experienced (i have put in many many hr’s) The servers that have rotations get droped. Quick. For what ever reason TF2 players like to play a map. B/c 1 map has 4 different levels its not like playing the same thing over and over. I sudjested 2 maps. (8 different levels) this we should not be afrade of. These are VERY high pop maps. tis is uber win. also note: this can be just a starting point. Its not hard to add a map later down the line. Its a simple line of code. lets get the community in here,,, then we can see how they like it… agree?
Again, What we have is not working. lets make a backup of the set up as is, and toss up my simple proposal. If it fails, we can put it back to how it is now. But srly, its uber fail now. no one is playing in WCU’s TF2 server.
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PS: If you would like me to just drop it, shoot me a PM and i’ll quit if im annoying or whatever.
It is also the duty of each council leader to update and maintain their respective game
It is the duty of each council leader to manage the general direction of their council
I understand that Liam.. but… its not working. and has not ever had a steady stream of people in their longer than a few hours. And thats like once a month. and mostly are the admins on this website..
magical penguen said:
Who’s in charge of this?magical penguen said:
We need to make some changes.Its not to hard to see its not working. How is this server supporting WCUG mission? Dead servers dont bring in community.
I was simply posting my “suggestions” to who ever is in charge, and hoping they dont have a thick head and can see the light of my post. “we need Change” and i know this setup works.
PoopieDookieHead said:
magical penguen make a smiley for me too!!!!! maybe a piece of turd ? LOLhow about
Naw, shoot me a PM to a link of a smily you wont. If i think it fits your personality (not just your name) i will be happy to add it.
this would make a good one for SGAthanks for making my point cat-co <3
i think we should morce code with the lights, if that doesn’t get everyone attention, nothing will.
when i worked at DE, i was in a open cube, (low walls) it was set up just like that video on the top. so you can still talk to people and ask questions. As far as the movie office space type cubes,, no way would i do that. EVER. idk if it was a 6figure job. Its just not mEE. I just feel like if i was in a cube, i’m working as a number not a person. And i would not have any aspiration to come to work. Your working the rest of your life. You better dame well like everything about that place.
we dont liesn to the PA in the grandroom. so why try to do it over 2 rooms?
ponder that one rain cloud
