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How does it feeeellllll….how does it feel….how does it feeellll nowww….
when your alone and cold inside….Like a stranger in moscow!!! EEEEH!
Lets Just AGREE that BEAT IT was a kickass song, Black or White was politically correct, and Invincible (2001) showed he still had what it took.
If you’ve followed Michael Jackson’s trials and tribulations and have made the informed decision that he is guilty, you’re entitled. I’m not trying to change your mind. If you’re just a hater who wants to make trouble, I don’t really care. The world would be boring if we didn’t have dynamic diversity, and someone to stir it up every now and then.
But if you’re on the fence, or you just don’t know, or you think he’s guilty of the allegations because someone told you so, I would like you consider 10 simple facts. My hope is they might enlighten at least one person.
1. Before the first allegations, Evan Chandler didn’t have custody of his son, Jordan Chandler. He owed his wife $68,000 in back child support.
2. When Jordan Chandler became friends with MJ, Evan Chandler encouraged their relationship, allowing MJ to spend the night at their house and in his children’s beds.
3. Evan Chandler invited MJ to build an addition onto Evan’s house so MJ could stay there. When he couldn’t get zoning permission, Evan Chandler asked MJ to buy him a new house.
4. Eventually, MJ stopped taking Evan Chandler’s calls, but stayed friends with Jordan. This is when Evan Chandler, with the help of “nastiest son of a *edited* I could find,” embarked on his plan to destroy Michael Jackson. Jordan’s mother, June Chandler, is the one who brought the extortion tape to MJ’s private investigator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaVZw5h6YE
5. Evan Chandler hired a sketchy technician to administer the psychoactive drug Amytal to his son. It is NOT a truth serum; it is a drug that makes the patient highly suggestible.
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It’s a psychiatric medication that cannot be relied on to produce fact. People are very suggestible under it. People will say things under sodium Amytal that are blatantly untrue.– Dr. Phillip Resnick, noted Cleveland psychiatrist
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I would never want to use a drug that tampers with a person’s unconscious unless there was no other drug available. And I would not use it without resuscitating equipment, in case of allergic reaction, and only with an M.D. anesthesiologist present.– Dr. Kenneth Gottlieb, San Francisco psychiatrist
6. Instead of going to police with his allegations, Evan Chandler met Michael Jackson in a hotel room, where he took out an envelope and read Jordan Chandler’s drug-induced “stories.” Later that same night he demanded $20 million.
7. In their negotiations, MJ’s camp offered Evan Chandler, an aspiring screen writer, a $350,000 script project. Evan Chandler countered, demanding three script deals.
** HELLO? ** If you’re pursuing justice and charging someone with molesting your son, would you ask for script deals?
8. Despite their best efforts, police could not find any other boys to come forward. They approached 30+ boys with lies such as “we have naked pictures of you” when they didn’t. The boys all upheld by MJ’s integrity.
9. The members of Michael Jackson’s staff who claim to have witnessed inappropriate behavior, not one went to the police. They did, however, sell their “stories” to the media for tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars.
10. Michael Jackson did not pay Evan Chandler $20 million. His insurance company did, against his protests. They overruled because it served their best interest. http://whoismichael.com/insurance-pay-out.htm
Rocket Rob said:
A perfect example of:
A) An *edited*.
Not thinking before your actions. It happens to ALL of us. We all do stupid things, than a second later think about it and say to ourselves “Why the *edited* did I just do that?”. Thats all that was, and it was blown WAY out of proportion. Had it been ANYBODY else, it wouldn’t have even been looked at.RaveN said:
A perfect example of:A) An *edited*.
Not thinking before your actions. It happens to ALL of us. We all do stupid things, than a second later think about it and say to ourselves “Why the *edited* did I just do that?”. Thats all that was, and it was blown WAY out of proportion. Had it been ANYBODY else, they would have had a *edited* in their *edited* and a roommate named bubba.fixed
Due to the fact that MJ is 99% plastic, he will be melted down into lego blocks so little kids can play with him for a change. hahaha
RaveN said:
Not thinking before your actions. It happens to ALL of us. We all do stupid things, than a second later think about it and say to ourselves “Why the *edited* did I just do that?”. Thats all that was, and it was blown WAY out of proportion. Had it been ANYBODY else, it wouldn’t have even been looked at.I can’t think of anyone I know that’s ever held a baby over a balcony. Idk, maybe I just don’t out much.
Anyone willing to defend THAT should have their own breeding rights revoked.
Oh btw, if it had been ANYONE else the child would have been taken away by child protective services.
NoDice said:
Due to the fact that MJ is 99% plastic, he will be melted down into lego blocks so little kids can play with him for a change. hahahawin lol
NoDice said:
Due to the fact that MJ is 99% plastic, he will be melted down into lego blocks so little kids can play with him for a change. hahahaMy sister told me this one yesterday when I told her Rocket Bob’s one about recycling.
She also told me this one:
Did you hear about the cause of Michael Jackson’s death? Apparently it was food poisoning. He was found with 12 year old nuts in his mouth.
El terrible.
Just close the thread already. It’s quite obvious this place is filled with immature, disrespectful losers.
Respect the dead you asstards.
RaveN said:
Just close the thread already. It’s quite obvious this place is filled with immature, disrespectful losers.Respect the dead you asstards.
agreed.
No worries, Karma is a *edited*. When someone important dies, like their mom’s, I’ll remember to laugh my *edited* off.
NuRayZ said:
agreed.No worries, Karma is a *edited*. When someone important dies, like their mom’s, I’ll remember to laugh my *edited* off.
So you didnt make any cold, dead, hand jokes when Charleton Heston died?
So are you people saying that you don’t laugh when jokes are made about dead people (and I don’t mean those who are recently deceased)?
Did/do you still laff at the Rick James episode of Chappelle’s Show even though James died later that year?
What about when I LOL’d at the spy update for TF2 when Valve wrote, “All historians agree that George Washington’s greatest regret was not being PERMANENTLY INVISIBLE.”? (BTW, LOL AGAIN.)
ZOMG, THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.
Just wondering.
never made fun of heston.
And no sorry, I’ve never joked about someone RIGHT AFTER they croaked. That’s just *edited*ing rude, no matter who it is. Never on the same day, or the following days of mourning. A few months or years from now? I could care less. But people are still crying man. My mom had to walk out of a meeting with higher up’s because she couldn’t stop crying. And those cold sadistic *edited*s that she works for, understood her feelings and gave her some time. Hard to believe old decrepit stingy white people have more feelings than some people cough.
I’m not saying you can’t joke about people when they die, it’s a good way to ease pain, and is done a lot at funerals. But I guess there is a way to go about it. You wouldn’t say “dang so and so she was a SLLLUTTTTT!!! hahahaha!” thats *edited*ing rude man.
Anyone crying during office meetings over the death of someone they had never met has issues. Had the “old decrepit stingy white people” refused to give her sympathy she could have sued them. Wouldn’t have been the first time it’s been done.
There’s nothing wrong with being sad but we as a society are too obsessed with figureheads. Regardless of how good a singer he was or how great you think he was, you never met or knew him. He could have been an atomic *edited*, you really don’t know. You should not be that upset about his death.
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you never met or knew himNot true. I met him twice. I’ll have you know he was the nicest guy in the world. Guess you don’t have the capacity it takes to understand how music have an effect on somebodies life.
I don’t make fun of dead people period. It’s among the most disrespectful dispicable things you can do in my opinion, and that just proves how immature and hateful you all really are.
MasterP said:
Anyone crying during office meetings over the death of someone they had never met has issues. Had the “old decrepit stingy white people” refused to give her sympathy she could have sued them. Wouldn’t have been the first time it’s been done.There’s nothing wrong with being sad but we as a society are too obsessed with figureheads. Regardless of how good a singer he was or how great you think he was, you never met or knew him. He could have been an atomic *edited*, you really don’t know. You should not be that upset about his death.
Well it was a meeting on vacation. They took her to Napa Valley and strawberry Fields, and were discussing new terms on where to get there berries from. You can have a connection with someone you never met. God is a great example, I’ve never met Him. Nor Jesus, but I still have a very close connection to both of them. No I am not trying to relate those two figures with Jackson, but the point is you can mourn someone you never met. His music may not have moved you, but it certainly has others, and the mourning of an Iconic figure is just as important to some people as like losing Princess Dianna, or JFK, or Martin Luther, or MLKjr. All these people had messages and importance to thousands of people that they never actual met. Youre a tool and a fool who thinks you know everything. People aren’t all totally rational, we have emotion, some more than others, and to call emotional people, people with issues is stereo-typing it bit. You have an issues like everyone else.
On another note, take a listen to the song “2000 watts” by Michael Jackson. Not to sound like a racist…but he actually sounds black in it….or at least how I’d assume most black male singers in that genre would sound…..ahhh…no way I can say it without sounding racist…you know what I mean.
NuRayZ said:
You can have a connection with someone you never met. God is a great example, I’ve never met Him. Nor Jesus, but I still have a very close connection to both of them. No I am not trying to relate those two figures with Jackson, but the point is you can mourn someone you never met.I’m out. You compare MJ to God/Jesus then say you aren’t trying to compare them. That post makes you a complete moron and not worthy of further time expenditure trying to save your *edited* from the endless pit of complete retardation.
Btw, I like how you completely dodged my point then called me tool.
MasterP said:
I’m out. You compare MJ to God/Jesus then say you aren’t trying to compare them. That post makes you a complete moron and not worthy of further time expenditure trying to save your *edited* from the endless pit of complete retardation.Btw, I like how you completely dodged my point then called me tool.
The point wasn’t to compare MJ with Jesus. Bad comparison, but you can connect with someone, anyone, and mourn their death even if you never met them. Granted I used a bad example, but since when did this become a course in proper composition structure. THE POINT was you can be emotionally attached to words, lyrics, and the message of someone and therefore care for someone whom you never met, or even cry when that person dies, because regardless of meeting them or not, they still affected you in your life. You talked about my mother, regardless if it was indirect, and although at first I initially told you to *edited* off, I retracted that statement and tried to put something a little more civil. Let me rephrase what I meant to say. You have one of the most narrow minded mentalities in the *edited*ing world, but not that you care. The biggest issue you have is your lack of respect for others viewpoints, and the only assumption you can make for your lack of understanding others, is they are dumber than you. People like you should be shipped to an island of giant ants and eaten alive.
I guess the fact is, no one can know how anything can affect anybody. I really can’t expect anyone but me to understand why I feel a certain way, neither how i can understand how raven and nurayz feel so strongly about this. You can try to relate it to me as much as you want, but I will never understand everything that goes on in your heads. I would even say that none of us are narrow minded, but more just self minded. You can say you think of others, and try to persuade ideals and thoughts but you can never know if what you are persuading is right, or if the other person needs that. meh.
Wu Wei baby
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