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February 10, 2010 at 12:59 am #97097
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SpectatorIf obama can be voted in cause he is black
then palin can be voted in cause shes a milf
February 10, 2010 at 3:44 am #97100Lemm
SpectatorLemm’s fun ambiguous quotes #1 provided by Nickname:
Nickname said:
Same thing goes for *edited* rights and that sort of thing. Personally I get… let’s say annoyed by flamboyant *edited*s but I think they should still have the same rights as everyone else… their sexual orientation doesn’t change the fact that they are *edited*ing human beings.
Notice how the sentence changes when a certain word is bold.
February 10, 2010 at 4:38 am #97101lawlrence
SpectatorThis thread is full of the reason I hate politics.
February 10, 2010 at 8:19 am #97103Bitey
SpectatorRocket Rob said:
Bitey said:
. But in the same right they create unachievable standards that some women try to hold straight men up to.
such as?
Such as sensitivity that only a woman has.
Understanding for a woman that only another woman could have.
Basically everything a woman wants in a girl who is her best friend, and they are actually attracted to them.
I’m not talking about the random sluts that you might go out and *edited*, I am talking about a guy that a woman would be looking into marrying.
February 10, 2010 at 9:07 am #97105Nickname
SpectatorLemm said:
Lemm’s fun ambiguous quotes #1 provided by Nickname:
Nickname said:
Same thing goes for *edited* rights and that sort of thing. Personally I get… let’s say annoyed by flamboyant *edited*s but I think they should still have the same rights as everyone else… their sexual orientation doesn’t change the fact that they are *edited*ing human beings.
Notice how the sentence changes when a certain word is bold.
hmmmm, that takes on a whole new light when put in that context lol.
February 10, 2010 at 10:52 am #97108newrayz
SpectatorMasterP said:
There are just as many holes in evolution as there are in creationism. The difference? Those who believe in evolution have a power base in politics while those who believe in creationism have a base in religious sects. Since the political elite have pushed all aspect of religion out of government, guess which one won? Neither is a perfect account for how we got here and I find it incredibly shortsighted for you libs to bash one and not the other.
You know what else the difference is? One is based off of science, and the other is attempting to take science out of the equation. Personally I think it’s a little bit of both. Chaos theory just doesn’t fly for me, something definitely started life up, the course which it is on, however is definitely on a learning, or evolutionary process.
MasterP said:
Regardless of what side you’re on, you have to agree (because science says so) that there is a living object inside the womb. Now we can sit here and debate all day over what constitutes it as being “human” but it is a living, oxygen-consuming creature. What gives us the right to prevent that creature from being born? Why is it that dogs are treated with more respect and dignity when they’re put down than developing human beings?
Here’s an instant way to reverse all the abortion laws:
Since homosexuality is now considered genetic (i lol’d btw) let’s find the gene that causes it and start telling parents before birth that their child will be *edited*. If parents started aborting future-*edited*s en-mass there would be a massive political outcry, and there should be, but it’s no more unfair to abort a *edited* than it is to abort anyone else. That’s not how it would go down though.
I think it go down more like this:
Doc: I’m sorry ma’am, you’re baby has the *edited* gene.
Woman: Oh no. But it goes against my ideals. What do i do…
Doc: well we could take care of it.
Woman: Either I rip it out now, or have it grow to be homo
Doc: So…what’s your decision.
Woman:
Left the last one open to imagination. It seems she’s *edited*ed on her decision. Either she aborts and is a hypocrite to her virtues, or she has the homo baby and has a son who is a walking hypocrite to her virtues. And before you go and explain “well since homosexuality is a choice, then she’ll teach him to be straight”…LOL good luck with trying to teach a *edited* kid to be straight.
The real question is, if you believe homosexuality is a choice, what do you do if your own kid was *edited*? Either you love him, or you reject him. Feelings aside, would you want him to grow up being honest with himself? Or would you want him to grow up like the numerous homosexual hypocrites walking around washington?
February 10, 2010 at 1:52 pm #97110MasterP
SpectatorNuRayZ said:
MasterP said:
There are just as many holes in evolution as there are in creationism. The difference? Those who believe in evolution have a power base in politics while those who believe in creationism have a base in religious sects. Since the political elite have pushed all aspect of religion out of government, guess which one won? Neither is a perfect account for how we got here and I find it incredibly shortsighted for you libs to bash one and not the other.
You know what else the difference is? One is based off of science, and the other is attempting to take science out of the equation. Personally I think it’s a little bit of both. Chaos theory just doesn’t fly for me, something definitely started life up, the course which it is on, however is definitely on a learning, or evolutionary process.
“Based off science” but not proved by it. I see you missed that point entirely, probably because it shoots a gaping hole through your arguement.
NuRayZ said:
The real question is, if you believe homosexuality is a choice, what do you do if your own kid was *edited*? Either you love him, or you reject him. Feelings aside, would you want him to grow up being honest with himself? Or would you want him to grow up like the numerous homosexual hypocrites walking around washington?You always love your children, regardless of whether or not you agree with their decisions in life. That can be said about almost every decision a child makes, barring only the most extremes like becoming a drug addict or pedobear.
February 10, 2010 at 1:57 pm #97111newrayz
SpectatorMasterP said:
“Based off science” but not proved by it. I see you missed that point entirely, probably because it shoots a gaping hole through your arguement.
It shoots no hole in my argument tard. It’s a *edited*ing scientific theory, taught in science class. It’s just an irrefutable educated guess. No one said you HAVE to believe it.
btw, from your argument it seems like you are a devout believer in creationism. I bet you think the earth was made a few thousand years ago too. LOL
But speaking of holes, what holes exist in evolution theory? Only one i can think of would be the origins of life. And it’s not really a hole as much as an unknown. The process by which life has shaped however seems to show an evolutionary trend. Please tell me you don’t believe that so I can assume you are as ignorant as ever.
February 10, 2010 at 2:10 pm #97113newrayz
Spectatordouble post ftl
February 10, 2010 at 2:44 pm #97117MasterP
SpectatorYou really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
February 10, 2010 at 2:49 pm #97119newrayz
SpectatorMasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
i guess you are missing my point.
evolution = charles darwin = dude you learn in science.
creationism = God = The Dude you learn in church. Also in philosophy/theory courses if you missed out.
see how easy that works?
I like how you uphold people to their own logic and reason but have no reason for your own beliefs. Hell apparantly you have no beliefs at all.
Please rationalize why one believes ONLY in creationism. Oh that’s right you can’t rationalize it, cause it’s based on faith. While evolution hasn’t been proven, it isn’t simply based on faith and if it has so many holes why does the majority of the science community still accept it as the theory to which life has taken?
“the scientific community there is essentially universal agreement that the evidence of evolution is overwhelming, and the scientific consensus supporting the modern evolutionary synthesis is nearly absolute.”
# ^ Delgado, Cynthia (2006-07-28). “Finding evolution in medicine” (hmtl). NIH Record 58 (15). http://nihrecord.od.nih.gov/newsletters/2006/07_28_2006/story03.htm. Retrieved 2007-10-22.
# ^ a b Ruling, Kitzmiller v. Dover page 83
Must be the media right? lmao
inb4 yes i know i’m being trolled, but what else am i gonna do on a boring wednesday at work?
February 10, 2010 at 2:58 pm #97120Nickname
SpectatorI mean personally in the creationism vs evolution thing I take a middle road as well.
You know in the bible they say God made the world in seven days but I think the term “days” can be taken with a grain of salt just like almost every other time-related incident in the bible (Jesus: “I will return “soon”” where soon is a relative term). Therefore I can kinda believe both ways.
i.e. Big Bang = In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Transformation of the earth from molten madness to a solid with land and water = And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
beginning of evolution, which typically is taught as everything coming from bacteria etc in the water = And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life
then continued evolution bringing land creatures = And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
finally evolution leads to humans roaming the earth = And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
so see, I can have my cake and eat it too.
February 10, 2010 at 3:11 pm #97121newrayz
SpectatorNickname said:
I mean personally in the creationism vs evolution thing I take a middle road as well.
You know in the bible they say God made the world in seven days but I think the term “days” can be taken with a grain of salt just like almost every other time-related incident in the bible (Jesus: “I will return “soon”” where soon is a relative term). Therefore I can kinda believe both ways.
i.e. Big Bang = In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Transformation of the earth from molten madness to a solid with land and water = And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
beginning of evolution, which typically is taught as everything coming from bacteria etc in the water = And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life
then continued evolution bringing land creatures = And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
finally evolution leads to humans roaming the earth = And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
so see, I can have my cake and eat it too.
+1
February 10, 2010 at 3:29 pm #97122MasterP
SpectatorMy beliefs are similar to what Nickname stated.
I have my cake, I’ve feasted upon it, and all the while all the dots line up to form a pretty picture.
NuRayZ said:
MasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
While evolution hasn’t been proven, it isn’t simply based on faith and if it has so many holes why does the majority of the science community still accept it as the theory to which life has taken?
“the scientific community there is essentially universal agreement that the evidence of evolution is overwhelming, and the scientific consensus supporting the modern evolutionary synthesis is nearly absolute.”
# ^ Delgado, Cynthia (2006-07-28). “Finding evolution in medicine” (hmtl). NIH Record 58 (15). http://nihrecord.od.nih.gov/newsletters/2006/07_28_2006/story03.htm. Retrieved 2007-10-22.
# ^ a b Ruling, Kitzmiller v. Dover page 83
Must be the media right? lmao
inb4 yes i know i’m being trolled, but what else am i gonna do on a boring wednesday at work?
Everyone blindly accepted global warming as being irrefutable science. Up until the leaked emails blantantly talking about changing study results to meet their needs. The same people that blindly accepted that, like you for instance, are the same ones that blindly accept everything else taught in a liberal, public education science class. *edited*ing tools is all you people are, lacking all ability to stop and wonder “is my teacher full of bull*edited*?”. I questioned the teachers quite often and did outside research on things that didn’t seem to add up.
Btw, I’m not trolling at all, I’m pointing out facts, or lack thereof.
February 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm #97123newrayz
SpectatorMasterP said:
Everyone blindly accepted global warming as being irrefutable science. Up until the leaked emails blantantly talking about changing study results to meet their needs. The same people that blindly accepted that, like you for instance,
NuRayZ Says Hi from Page 2 said:
Personally I think it’s a little bit of both. Chaos theory just doesn’t fly for me, something definitely started life up, the course which it is on, however is definitely on a learning, or evolutionary process.
lookie there. I have my own cake too. Seems you blindly assumed wrong.
February 10, 2010 at 3:52 pm #97124YouWinGameOver
SpectatorMasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
MasterP said:
My beliefs are similar to what Nickname stated.
I have my cake, I’ve feasted upon it, and all the while all the dots line up to form a pretty picture.
NuRayZ said:
MasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
While evolution hasn’t been proven, it isn’t simply based on faith and if it has so many holes why does the majority of the science community still accept it as the theory to which life has taken?
“the scientific community there is essentially universal agreement that the evidence of evolution is overwhelming, and the scientific consensus supporting the modern evolutionary synthesis is nearly absolute.”
# ^ Delgado, Cynthia (2006-07-28). “Finding evolution in medicine” (hmtl). NIH Record 58 (15). http://nihrecord.od.nih.gov/newsletters/2006/07_28_2006/story03.htm. Retrieved 2007-10-22.
# ^ a b Ruling, Kitzmiller v. Dover page 83
Must be the media right? lmao
inb4 yes i know i’m being trolled, but what else am i gonna do on a boring wednesday at work?
Everyone blindly accepted global warming as being irrefutable science. Up until the leaked emails blantantly talking about changing study results to meet their needs. The same people that blindly accepted that, like you for instance, are the same ones that blindly accept everything else taught in a liberal, public education science class. *edited*ing tools is all you people are, lacking all ability to stop and wonder “is my teacher full of bull*edited*?”. I questioned the teachers quite often and did outside research on things that didn’t seem to add up.
Btw, I’m not trolling at all, I’m pointing out facts, or lack thereof.
I think both of these statements are not fair enough judgments to make about all liberal colleges and professors.
@ MP I think that creationism is too fine of a line to be taught in school. I am Jewish and am constantly tired of Jesus/Bible toting bull*edited*… The problem with most creationist theories is that it doesn’t include anything but Catholicism/Christianity.
February 10, 2010 at 4:21 pm #97126Bitey
SpectatorHey don’t be mad you already missed the Messiah coming…
/troll
February 10, 2010 at 4:29 pm #97129MasterP
SpectatorYouWinGameOver said:
MasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
MasterP said:
My beliefs are similar to what Nickname stated.
I have my cake, I’ve feasted upon it, and all the while all the dots line up to form a pretty picture.
NuRayZ said:
MasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
While evolution hasn’t been proven, it isn’t simply based on faith and if it has so many holes why does the majority of the science community still accept it as the theory to which life has taken?
“the scientific community there is essentially universal agreement that the evidence of evolution is overwhelming, and the scientific consensus supporting the modern evolutionary synthesis is nearly absolute.”
# ^ Delgado, Cynthia (2006-07-28). “Finding evolution in medicine” (hmtl). NIH Record 58 (15). http://nihrecord.od.nih.gov/newsletters/2006/07_28_2006/story03.htm. Retrieved 2007-10-22.
# ^ a b Ruling, Kitzmiller v. Dover page 83
Must be the media right? lmao
inb4 yes i know i’m being trolled, but what else am i gonna do on a boring wednesday at work?
Everyone blindly accepted global warming as being irrefutable science. Up until the leaked emails blantantly talking about changing study results to meet their needs. The same people that blindly accepted that, like you for instance, are the same ones that blindly accept everything else taught in a liberal, public education science class. *edited*ing tools is all you people are, lacking all ability to stop and wonder “is my teacher full of bull*edited*?”. I questioned the teachers quite often and did outside research on things that didn’t seem to add up.
Btw, I’m not trolling at all, I’m pointing out facts, or lack thereof.
I think both of these statements are not fair enough judgments to make about all liberal colleges and professors.
@ MP I think that creationism is too fine of a line to be taught in school. I am Jewish and am constantly tired of Jesus/Bible toting bull*edited*… The problem with most creationist theories is that it doesn’t include anything but Catholicism/Christianity.
I was referring to middle/high school where most of the brainwashing begins. The only way to prevent a child from being force-fed crap by a teacher at that level is to put them in another class or school, both of which also do harm.
As to the limited scope, you’re right. I wouldn’t have a problem with beliefs of other faiths being taught alongside in such a curriculum. It would also expand understanding of other religions such as Islam and Buddhism. The child knows what religion/sect he is being brought up in and if they’re religious they’re going to filter out the conflicting information and simply use it as a learning opportunity about other people, not so much fact as much as info.
It’s possible for everyone to have their cake and eat it too with this issue, the problem is some like having all the cake for themselves and aren’t willing to share. Demote back to kindergarten IMO.
February 10, 2010 at 5:22 pm #97133newrayz
SpectatorGlad we cleared all that up.
Now back to Palin. Robert Gibbs made fun of her by reenacting the whole peeking at the hand notes thing. It’s funny except for the fact that it’s the Presidents Press Secretary doing the jabbing. I want to hear statuses and updates not jokes from the WHPS.
February 10, 2010 at 5:42 pm #97135Rocket Rob
SpectatorNuRayZ said:
But speaking of holes, what holes exist in evolution theory?
If we came from monkeys, the why are there still monkeys?
/argument
February 10, 2010 at 6:08 pm #97136newrayz
SpectatorRocket Rob said:
NuRayZ said:
But speaking of holes, what holes exist in evolution theory?
If we came from monkeys, the why are there still monkeys?
/arguement
branched off from monkeys along time ago my friend, apparently it took you a little longer
February 10, 2010 at 6:29 pm #97137Rocket Rob
SpectatorNuRayZ said:
Rocket Rob said:
NuRayZ said:
But speaking of holes, what holes exist in evolution theory?
If we came from monkeys, the why are there still monkeys?
/argument
branched off from monkeys along time ago my friend, apparently it took you a little longer

dude, I said /argument!
February 10, 2010 at 6:51 pm #97138Bitey
SpectatorRocket Rob said:
NuRayZ said:
Rocket Rob said:
NuRayZ said:
But speaking of holes, what holes exist in evolution theory?
If we came from monkeys, the why are there still monkeys?
/arguement
branched off from monkeys along time ago my friend, apparently it took you a little longer

dude, I said /arguement!
Dude l2spell argument = arguement?
February 10, 2010 at 8:08 pm #97140MasterP
SpectatorNuRayZ said:
Now back to Palin. Robert Gibbs made fun of her by reenacting the whole peeking at the hand notes thing. It’s funny except for the fact that it’s the Presidents Press Secretary doing the jabbing. I want to hear statuses and updates not jokes from the WHPS.
All he’s done since day 1 is bash Fox News, make fun of republicans, downplay serious issues as not important, and flat out lie about what’s going on behind the scenes.
I miss the days of Tony Snow, where questions were answered with real answers, serious issues were discussed openly or told they were being delt with (IE be blunt not cryptic), and the jokes made were in a format so that everyone in the room laughed, not just libs or republicans.
February 10, 2010 at 9:56 pm #97144lawlrence
SpectatorReligion and government don’t mix well. Also, a science classroom is a science classroom, not a religious one.
February 10, 2010 at 9:58 pm #97145newrayz
SpectatorMasterP said:
NuRayZ said:
Now back to Palin. Robert Gibbs made fun of her by reenacting the whole peeking at the hand notes thing. It’s funny except for the fact that it’s the Presidents Press Secretary doing the jabbing. I want to hear statuses and updates not jokes from the WHPS.
All he’s done since day 1 is bash Fox News, make fun of republicans, downplay serious issues as not important, and flat out lie about what’s going on behind the scenes.
I miss the days of Tony Snow, where questions were answered with real answers, serious issues were discussed openly or told they were being delt with (IE be blunt not cryptic), and the jokes made were in a format so that everyone in the room laughed, not just libs or republicans.
<3 Tony Snow lol
February 10, 2010 at 10:04 pm #97146melatonin
SpectatorMasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
Spend a few hours time googling around and you can find someone saying ANYTHING.
February 10, 2010 at 11:28 pm #97147lawlrence
SpectatorLiquid said:
MasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
Spend a few hours time googling around and you can find someone saying ANYTHING.
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm doesn’t mean what they’re saying isn’t true…
February 11, 2010 at 12:22 am #97151melatonin
Spectatorlawlrence said:
Liquid said:
MasterP said:
You really want me to do your own research? Spend a few hours googling around, you’ll find it’s about as “scientific” as global warming.
By your logic, if you are taught evolution but have the right to not believe it then it should also be fair to teach creationism. Hey no one said you HAVE to believe it…
Spend a few hours time googling around and you can find someone saying ANYTHING.
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm doesn’t mean what they’re saying isn’t true…
That’s a joke site. But I assure you, there are extremely stupid people on the internet.
February 11, 2010 at 12:41 am #97152lawlrence
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