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  • #56711
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Bitey said:

    Oh I see the issue, consoles opted to do 6 tournaments instead of 5, they realize that this means some of their tournaments will have to be played at the same time as others, so the decision was made to not do Mario Kart Wii since there is a lack of people who own the game, but we know for a fact that many people own GH3, we based this on the amount of people that were in the tournament last time. Also the normal difficulty will be on hard and only if the two players agree will it be upped to expert, the final round will be expert regardless. I think this works just fine and seeing how GH3 was successful in the past confirms to me that this was the right choice, Mario Kart Wii is still unsure, it will be available for Free Play lets see how it does there.

     

    So why didn’t the console execs just sling that out there as the excuse. Sounds a WHOLE LOT better and at least attempts a semblance of adherence to the Constitution.

    #56712
    Nickname
    Spectator

    MasterP said:

    attempts a semblance of adherence

    Try saying that 5x fast

    #56713
    Bitey
    Spectator

    MasterP said:

    So why didn’t the console execs just sling that out there as the excuse. Sounds a WHOLE LOT better and at least attempts a semblance of adherence to the Constitution.

     

     

    They are new and don’t have a way with words quite like I do yet? Instead of immediately bashing them I helped them into finding out the root of the issue, its what I expected from everyone else and well, I think we know what happened, if all people do is flame people then what do you expect in return?

    #56724
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Bitey said:

    Instead of immediately bashing them I helped them into finding out the root of the issue, its what I expected from everyone else and well, I think we know what happened, if all people do is flame people then what do you expect in return?

    If they can’t accurately describe why the broke the rules or why votes at the general meeting were ignored did you expect people who felt shortchanged to just sit there and take it? Had me and Nickname had a little meeting and taken a PC game that won public vote out of tournament play and swapped it with something you felt a weaker game would you not be here *edited*ing and whining just as much?

    #56725
    Kuros
    Spectator

    It’s his (Bitey’s) job to ensure the voting is fair/accurate etc. If he’s ripping votes, something needs to be done.

    #56730
    Bitey
    Spectator

    MasterP said:

    If they can’t accurately describe why the broke the rules or why votes at the general meeting were ignored did you expect people who felt shortchanged to just sit there and take it? Had me and Nickname had a little meeting and taken a PC game that won public vote out of tournament play and swapped it with something you felt a weaker game would you not be here *edited*ing and whining just as much?

     

    No I wouldn’t “*edited* and whine”, I would ask for clarification.

    #56734
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Bitey said:

    No I wouldn’t “*edited* and whine”, I would ask for clarification.

     

    MasterP said:

    No Mario Kart or Wii Bowling? Wtf?

     

    What was the point of even having a vote for console games at the general meeting if the results were subject to change later?

     

    I did, look how it went.

     

    Shingi said:

    At the meeting we were discussing on how to run the Mario Kart Wii tournament. When no one knew any good settings I asked in general who all actually wanted to play the game as a tourney and the result was none. So we took a vote to replace it with another game that had more interest and that was Guitar Hero III.
    #56736
    Bitey
    Spectator

    I don’t see the issue, I see clarification given, what happened after that was the *edited*ing and moaning right?

    #56737
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Bitey said:

    I don’t see the issue, I see clarification given, what happened after that was the *edited*ing and moaning right?

     

    lol?

     

    I don’t really want to get into a *edited*ing match on a Monday but once the votes are taken they aren’t supposed to be untaken. If that’s the case why bother discussing games at the general meetings at all? Consoles are already negating the input from PC players anyway, what’s the point?

    #56738
    Bitey
    Spectator

    The votes weren’t untaken the Console President made an executive decision with my approval, ffs Mitch go *edited* in your corn flakes your beating this horse to a dead bloody pulp if you like Mario Kart Wii that much set it up at the LAN and prove to me that people want to play it.

    #56750
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Bitey said:

    if you like Mario Kart Wii that much set it up at the LAN and prove to me that people want to play it.

     

    Ok I’ll approach it from your angle then. Neither Mario Kart Wii nor Soul Calibur 4 were out where we had the last LAN. Why would a game with no recent history with the club get to skip over the trial phase and one with a strong history have to go through it?

    #56752
    Bitey
    Spectator

    Because we are trying to bring PS3 tournaments into the LAN and many people showed an interest in this. Mike Klatt wants it, Mike Klatt gets it, cause he deserves it.

    #56754
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Bitey said:

    Because we are trying to bring PS3 tournaments into the LAN and many people showed an interest in this.

     

    And you don’t see a problem with tossing a known good game out just because of the console it’s on?

    #56755
    Bitey
    Spectator

    Known good game? Mario Kart Wii is not a known good game….. I have heard nothing good about it.

     

    Soul Caliber 4 IS a KNOWN good game and MANY people play it, thus I do not see a problem.

    #56756
    Nickname
    Spectator

    Bitey said:

    Known good game? Mario Kart Wii is not a known good game….. I have heard nothing good about it.

     

    Soul Caliber 4 IS a KNOWN good game and MANY people play it, thus I do not see a problem.

    /me throws a log on the fire

     

    I would say that Mario Kart Wii is a known good game.

    #56759
    MasterP
    Spectator

    I’m going to post this then be done, again.

     

    Note the similar metascores:

    http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/…=Soul%20Calibur

    http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/…?q=mario%20kart

     

    Note the difference in sales as of August 2008:

    Mario Kart Wii: 2,733,000

    Soul Calibur 4: 548,700 (total from both consoles)

     

    NPD Top 10 Sales in August 2008: (note that MK sold more and PS3 version of SC4 didn’t even make the list)

    NPD Market Research said:

    August NPD Software Sales

    1. Madden NFL 09 – Xbox 360 – 1.0M

    2. Madden NFL 09 – PS3 – 643K

    3. Madden NFL 09 – PS2 – 424.5K

    4. Wii Fit – Wii – 394.9K

    5. Mario Kart Wii – Wii – 328.7K

    6. Wii Play – Wii – 200.2K

    7. SoulCalibur IV – Xbox 360 – 174K

    8. Too Human – Xbox 360 – 168.2K

    9. Madden NFL 09 All-Play – Wii – 115.8K

    10. Guitar Hero: On Tour – DS – 111.2K

     

    Also note the PS3 version lost to Mario Kart in July as well…

    NPD Market Research said:

    July NPD Software Sales

    NCAA Football 09 – Xbox 360 – 397,600

    Wii Fit – Wii – 369,600

    Guitar Hero: On Tour – DS – 309,700

    Wii Play w/ remote – Wii- 284,000

    NCAA Football 09 – PS3- 242,500

    Soulcalibur IV – Xbox 360 – 218,900

    Mario Kart w/ wheel – Wii – 174,500

    Rock Band Special Ed. Bundle – Wii -165,800

    Soulcalibur IV – PS3 – 155,800

    Sid Meier’s Civilization Revolution – Xbox 360 – 147,600

    #56761
    tF Death Omen
    Spectator

    Again you toss out stupid numbers without considering the demographic the game sells to. I posted this in the other thread if you’d bothered to read my post you wouldn’t have tossed out rediculously useless numbers and sales stats.

     

    I’m not saying there may not be interest in the game, but please ffs don’t toss out statistics without doing a full analysis.

    #56763
    ExiLe
    Spectator

    i havent been on the forums alot until recently and all i have seen is negative posts from master p. Why do you like to cause so much drama within this club and your making something that happened on Friday that was not even a big deal something Huge! its not about which game is better or which game sold more its just happening at the LAN end of story so stop *edited*ing man please.

    #56766
    Oh Malley
    Spectator

    Whatever. I think this thread should be closed. It’s going no where. This issue will never be “settled”.

    #56767
    Liam
    Spectator

    My God man! Are you INSANE? We cannot close a ‘GOOD’ discussion thread!

    #56768
    Oh Malley
    Spectator

    Only if it’s going to end up just a flaming thread? Whatever. I’ve talked plenty with Bitey and Mouchet. I’m not going to sit here and argue senselessly. I know where they stand, and likewise they know where I stand. I’m putting my trust in their leadership capabilities and will support whatever action they take. /thread.

    #56774
    Freezer
    Spectator

    Obviously the president of the club has approved any action taken so this issue is over. If further concerns on this topic need to be expressed do it at the next meeting. The console events at the up coming LAN will either succeed or fail and that will be the best data you can ask for.

    #56800
    ChaosWolf
    Spectator

    Mitch, are you suggesting that we should have a Wii Fit Tourney? and instead of GH3, we should have Guitar Hero: On Tour for the DS as a tourny? If we based our tournaments on sales figures, thats what we’d apparently be doing.

    #56801
    Kuros
    Spectator

    Freezer_mcs said:

    Obviously the president of the club has approved any action taken so this issue is over. If further concerns on this topic need to be expressed do it at the next meeting. The console events at the up coming LAN will either succeed or fail and that will be the best data you can ask for.

     

    What’s the point of bringing it up at meeting if the votes at the meeting mean nothing?

    #56803
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Kuros said:

    What’s the point of bringing it up at meeting if the votes at the meeting mean nothing?

     

    Don’t bother, I’ve said that already. They don’t care.

     

    exile: I cause drama because I’ve been in the club long enough to what the REAL RULES are. When people start breaking them and the execs approve of it that means the club is compromising it’s own core values for the pure sake of getting more people in that room. If that’s all we care about now we’ve come a LONG way from what the club was founded on.

     

    Dark omen: feel free to back up your demographic claims with some numbers of your own. To my knowledge there aren’t any.

     

    Chaoswolf: That’s not what I said, and you know it. Go re-read my post.

    #56804
    adam37
    Spectator

    MasterP said:

    Don’t bother, I’ve said that already. They don’t care.

     

    exile: I cause drama because I’ve been in the club long enough to what the REAL RULES are. When people start breaking them and the execs approve of it that means the club is compromising it’s own core values for the pure sake of getting more people in that room. If that’s all we care about now we’ve come a LONG way from what the club was founded on.

     

    Dark omen: feel free to back up your demographic claims with some numbers of your own. To my knowledge there aren’t any.

     

    Chaoswolf: That’s not what I said, and you know it. Go re-read my post.

     

    pwned :o

    #56805
    tF Death Omen
    Spectator

    I don’t need numbers to be entirely honest I worked in electronics and KNOW who buys what from personal EXPERIENCE which includes working 8 months in Electronics at Wal-Mart (Our Department had the #1 Electronics Sales out of 6 Wal-Marts in the City of Omaha, including Video Game, and Console Sales) 4 Months at GameStop. I honestly don’t need numbers I have first hand experience.

    #56808
    Oh Malley
    Spectator

    Idea. We all stop *edited*ing and put it to the way it was before? Then go back and play our own little video games? kk??

    #56810
    Ephraim
    Spectator

    Knock knock.

    Who’s there?

    Drama! That’s who!

    #56815
    tF Death Omen
    Spectator

    Audyo said:

    Idea. We all stop *edited*ing and put it to the way it was before? Then go back and play our own little video games? kk??

     

    Fair Enough and Agreed.

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