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May 2, 2009 at 12:08 am #83529
Dean Winchester
ParticipantRipc_Scarolina said:
Well in all honnesty I didnt know this thread was going to spike such a hell raising thread. But I watched the man in pit zoom in On dave thomas head (spray) and he was moving foreward to the bomb. Player rattlesnake. He took two steps and boom slayed! I was on T. But still he gave the ct no chance to do anything.And all this talk about saving guns I have seen admins themselves save thier guns to the next round. (No names) I am no regular in the server. But lets all try to play fair. In all honnesty its just a game.
yes he was WALKING forward. with an awp in scope. idk but when you hear the beep beep beep beep beep sound that means the bomb is gonna blow soon?
he even took some shots in pit before moving. regardless of kit…i think there was a 1% win chance.
and there were only 2 cts. 2!!
May 2, 2009 at 12:10 am #83530lockEm
ParticipantCitan001 said:
Come on down to El Paso Texas and I will show you what I own and I will let you see my house and car. You dont understand how much money there is in real estate especially at the commercial level. When you realize how it works you will understand how easy it is to make money in it and make insane amounts doing it.Instead of me going to Texas, cause I’m clearly not going to, why don’t you post some pictures of you and your s1qr1d3 and castle. Do it holding a piece of paper saying Citan001 on it.
May 2, 2009 at 12:29 am #83534Ex
ParticipantlockEm said:
He was definitely saving his gun in pit trying to pick someone instead of going in and dying and losing his gun. Any decent player doesn’t go for the bomb when the odds are impossible. They save their gun for the next round and use it to try and get a win. But of course, you’re a pub admin who doesn’t know these things.I refer you to rule 7 on the server rules that all regulars are to know what they are http://www.wcugaming.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10760
if he wasn’t attempting to complete his objective he is in risk of being slayed
AngelEllaine said:
As for the CT who was awp saving in the Pit. Depending on the situation, you can’t really expect him to just rambo, 1v10 clutch defuse. So honestly that part really depends on the admin, whether if was a difusable bomb, or it was just suicide. As for the abusing admins, it would be nice if we can get some names, or submit them silently to a council leader if you want privacy.Same as above
MajorMajorMajor said:
He never lost admin because he was a bad admin. Lockem was and would still be a great admin. Do not tell him to gtfo. All opinions of people who are apart of the community should be heeded and considered. You can weigh the opinions but they should not be stifled or ignored.Sorry lock ill retract my vouch the last thing we need is another person that instead of voicing his opinion besides to go against what he is trying to become again . There are other ways to get a point across then being a *edited* to other admins or any one in general. Trust me on this i know of what i speak
lockEm said:
Wow, you really are mad.No i think you would know if i was *edited*ed most people do .
I’m 20. I work full time. I’m going back to school for engineering in the fall.
Sup?
ill send you a cardboard cookie with your name on it and a Styrofoam glass of milk . As a reward !!!
I don’t care who it is someone wants to bash admins will first be warned muted kicked temped . I do not allow It because if new people were able to see the rules with out having to loading a site there would end up being less of this stuff .
If you think a admin is wrong in some way then make a post but DO NOT START BASHING ADMINS FROM THIS CLUB.
You have no idea of the people these admin have had to deal with everyday we have 2 sets of rules as admin.
And we are under constant badgering from others the admins from wcugaming servers represent the club and as such must abide by all rules even tho at times its look down upon by others .
I refer you to rule 7 of the server rules http://www.wcugaming.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10760 he had a choice he made the wrong one if he saw the bomb being planted he could have tried but wanted to save his weapon . And as such gave the admin the right to slay .
Trust me when i say hes not the first person that has been slayed for not at least trying .
And im pretty sure hes not going to be the last .
I can tell you haven’t got to read the rules or this wouldn’t have came up you would have known the admin had the right to slay for not completing his objectives or at least that attempted .
May 2, 2009 at 12:37 am #83535Citan001
ParticipantThank you ex. This thread has gotten out of hand so lets bring it back to the problem. Rattlesnake was not the first nor the last to be slayed for not doing objective and again if he isint atleast TRYING to do it then yes a feel a slay was the proper action. As admins we really should not have to keep warning regulars of the rules and we were actually told not to and that if the same people keep breaking the rules start banning them. If you feel there is admin abuse please report it in the proper section or send a pm to one of the cls and let them take care of it.
May 2, 2009 at 12:40 am #83536lockEm
ParticipantAll I got from that is you took my post seriously.
I know the server rules (assuming Source is the same as 1.6), I don’t agree with them all, but I enforced them before I lost admin. I know what admins have to deal with. Again when I had admin, I banned a guy for cheating and a LOT of people got on my back about it saying I abused admin blah blah blah, until Liam himself said he cheated and let the ban stay. I know what admins do, I’ve been an admin on a few servers in the past.
If people are blatantly just not trying for it, they should be slayed, I AGREE. But theres a huge difference between not trying and playing smart. I’ll admit, I didn’t see the round (obviously), he might have deserved the slay, but everyone who saves their guns aren’t doing it just to get an extra kill to make their score better.
To wrap this up, I know the rules, admins can slay for this, yes, but is it really necessary? In cases when people are camping just to camp, slay away, but when they’re PLAYING COUNTER-STRIKE 1.6 OR SOURCE THE RIGHT WAY LOL WHY WOULD YOU SLAY
May 2, 2009 at 12:48 am #83538Citan001
ParticipantAs I understand it lockem and I was not there but as it was told to me he just sat in pit not even trying to do it. He had an awp it would have been really easy to move up and pick em off right at the corner to cover short. Going that way gives you a clear shot of just about every place up there side from behind the boxes or above the pots in the back but again he should have been able to pick em off from there still if he played smart.
May 2, 2009 at 12:56 am #83539Dean Winchester
ParticipantlockEm said:
All I got from that is you took my post seriously.I know the server rules (assuming Source is the same as 1.6), I don’t agree with them all, but I enforced them before I lost admin. I know what admins have to deal with. Again when I had admin, I banned a guy for cheating and a LOT of people got on my back about it saying I abused admin blah blah blah, until Liam himself said he cheated and let the ban stay. I know what admins do, I’ve been an admin on a few servers in the past.
If people are blatantly just not trying for it, they should be slayed, I AGREE. But theres a huge difference between not trying and playing smart. I’ll admit, I didn’t see the round (obviously), he might have deserved the slay, but everyone who saves their guns aren’t doing it just to get an extra kill to make their score better.
To wrap this up, I know the rules, admins can slay for this, yes, but is it really necessary? In cases when people are camping just to camp, slay away, but when they’re PLAYING COUNTER-STRIKE 1.6 OR SOURCE THE RIGHT WAY LOL WHY WOULD YOU SLAY
if you weren’t even serious why would you even post?
seriously, IF ITS NOT THE SAME GAME THEN DON’T POST
seriously, IF ITS NOT THE SAME GAME THEN DON’T POST
seriously, IF ITS NOT THE SAME GAME THEN DON’T POST
maybe you guys will see it now
May 2, 2009 at 1:21 am #83541MajorMajorMajor
ParticipantDean Winchester said:
if you weren’t even serious why would you even post?seriously, IF ITS NOT THE SAME GAME THEN DON’T POST
seriously, IF ITS NOT THE SAME GAME THEN DON’T POST
seriously, IF ITS NOT THE SAME GAME THEN DON’T POST
maybe you guys will see it now
And as i said before. All opinions should be heeded. You can weigh Lockem’s low as he doesn’t frequent the CSS server, but you can still listen for ideas he has on how admins should behave, or the fact that he is apart of this community. If citan came into the 1.6 section and told the 1.6 admins not to do votemaps when the server is half full I would listen, even though he doesn’t play on 1.6. Same thing should apply here.
You start this “Not the Same Game” bull*edited* you will divide the club instead of create a community.
ie. all the 1.6/CSS hatred there used to be
May 2, 2009 at 1:32 am #83543Derrick LeBrocq
ParticipantMajorMajorMajor said:
He never lost admin because he was a bad admin. Lockem was and would still be a great admin. Do not tell him to gtfo. All opinions of people who are apart of the community should be heeded and considered. You can weigh the opinions but they should not be stifled or ignored.This.
lockEM was a great admin. The only reason he’s not admin NOW is due to a disagreement with a certain somebody….whom lets just say alot of us haven’t a kind word to say about him….and who also *edited*ed it up for alot of the people participating in the club. Lay the *edited* off. You’re in no position to be telling anybody to GTFO. Talk like that makes people like you expendable. Remember that.
May 2, 2009 at 1:40 am #83545Ripc_Scarolina
ParticipantWell guess what….
I like food
May 2, 2009 at 1:43 am #83546Derrick LeBrocq
ParticipantAs for Citan001, if you’re worth as much as you say you are, show it. Donate to the club. Worthless wannabee piece of eggplant *edited*. You’re a poser. Works 80 hours a week, goes to school (which judging from your grammar skills, is doing you absolutely NO good), and STILL finds time to wave his pint sized e-peen around on a message board during a rousing game of behind-the-keyboard-toughguy. No, I’m willing to bet you’re nothing but a 20 year old, living in your parents basement, jobless, womenless and self esteemless. Shut the *edited* up before I kick yanuts. You better hope I don’t see your *edited* at a LAN, I’ll introduce you to Mr. Turkeyslap.
GTFO.
May 2, 2009 at 2:03 am #83547MajorMajorMajor
ParticipantDerrick L. said:
As for Citan001, if you’re worth as much as you say you are, show it. Donate to the club. Worthless wannabee piece of eggplant *edited*. You’re a poser. Works 80 hours a week, goes to school (which judging from your grammar skills, is doing you absolutely NO good), and STILL finds time to wave his pint sized e-peen around on a message board during a rousing game of behind-the-keyboard-toughguy. No, I’m willing to bet you’re nothing but a 20 year old, living in your parents basement, jobless, womenless and self esteemless. Shut the *edited* up before I kick yanuts. You better hope I don’t see your *edited* at a LAN, I’ll introduce you to Mr. Turkeyslap.GTFO.
I will have to come in and support me some Citan. Citan has been donating time and effort to the club for a very long time. If you were reading (which i know canadians can’t) he said it was in real estate… kinda hard to show monetary sum for land outside el paso. His e-peen will always be bigger than yours Derrick and I really think singling out someone like this is uncalled for. Even tho i know you are kidding, but as we all know…. sarcasm is fail over Internets.
Chill out brah and lets get this back on topic. Obviously there are accusations of admin abuse, and one instance, while may be justified, has been brought up. That needs to be taken care of
May 2, 2009 at 2:10 am #83548Derrick LeBrocq
ParticipantYou couldn’t tell by the “yanuts” and the “turkeyslap”? Complete with definition?
<3 Citan001
But I still don’t buy 80 hours a week plus school, plus CS garbage:\
May 2, 2009 at 2:11 am #83549MajorMajorMajor
ParticipantDerrick L. said:
You couldn’t tell by the “yanuts” and the “turkeyslap”? Complete with definition?<3 Citan001
But I still don’t buy 80 hours a week plus school, plus CS garbage:\
cs might be his work
that would be win
May 2, 2009 at 2:15 am #83550Kuros
ParticipantThe CSS server is boring, the admins for the most part are a joke and all I see is sm_says flying around like *edited*ing Canadian Geese in Raleigh. I think you all suck.
The 1.6 admins are just as bad if not worse.
tl;dr you all suck and i’d be purging some lists if i were in charge
May 2, 2009 at 2:17 am #83551Derrick LeBrocq
ParticipantROCK ON.
I gotta say, I agree here. Most of the admins who showed up after I left are a *edited*in joke.
May 2, 2009 at 2:18 am #83552lockEm
ParticipantThere are a few 1.6 admins who are pretty terrible.
EDIT:
Again I was joking in this thread, for the most part..
I have a bunch of RL friends who play/played CS, we always joke around and call each other terrible and garbage. When I call someone horrible, its most likely a joke. I didn’t mean for this to turn into a *edited* storm, but what can ya do.
May 2, 2009 at 2:19 am #83553Kuros
ParticipantDerrick L. said:
ROCK ON.I do my best.
I would have posted earlier if I had read the thread. It got long enough to catch my attention. All in all, I stand by what I said.
May 2, 2009 at 2:26 am #83555Derrick LeBrocq
ParticipantWe all just need to ask ourselves one question…
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
May 2, 2009 at 2:26 am #83556MajorMajorMajor
ParticipantSome pruning of the tree of life always helps the tree flower more.
May 2, 2009 at 4:28 am #83560Lemm
ParticipantI’m really disappointed in this thread. It is complete trash. I talked to rip the other night and he was telling me about admins abusing (without any specific names) and I told him to make a thread. I never thought it would cause people to cut each other down like that. I’m really surprised that people would resort to personal insults whether you are serious or not.
I don’t care why lock ’em lost his admin, but he really shouldn’t post here and start arguments with admins if he doesn’t play on the server.
I really don’t know what the case was because I wasn’t there. I never see any type of abuse like this when I am on. I think if there is a problem here it is with the interpretation of the rules.
This could have been settled a lot better. Club members, past execs, and admins need to treat each other with more respect. Especially, in the public forums… you should know that by now.
May 2, 2009 at 1:26 pm #83586Pink Monkey #16
ParticipantI have read most of this thread and I have agreed with Citan. Over the past couple of weeks regs have been breaking the rules far more frequently than they should have.
As an admin, I find it hard to warn them time after time about this behavior to people who I know already know better since they have played here frequently. I’m sorry, but if you’re a reg, I hold you to a higher standard than the random pubber who comes in and plays. You know the rules, and you know I have to enforce them.
Saying this, we are not perfect and do make mistakes. Bottom line, give us a break and follow the rules.
May 2, 2009 at 3:55 pm #83595Kuros
ParticipantPink Monkey #16 said:
As an admin, I find it hard to warn them time after time about this behavior to people who I know already know better since they have played here frequently.It’s not your job to warn over and over again. If they can’t follow rules give them the good ol 10080 minute ban. That drills it into their domes a little better. Warning doesn’t do anything to someone who thinks they are above the rules.
May 2, 2009 at 3:56 pm #83596Bitey
ParticipantDerrick L. said:
We all just need to ask ourselves one question…What Would Brian Boitano Do?
He would move this thread to the fail thread. This thread reeks of fail more than this guy. I suggest all of you just do this.
And if it were up to Kuros he would be the only admin, cause he’s just that good.
May 2, 2009 at 4:21 pm #83598Derrick LeBrocq
ParticipantMay 2, 2009 at 9:09 pm #83614MasterP
ParticipantI’m not reading all this bull*edited*, because that’s what it is, bull*edited*.
If an admin is abusing, tell me who and when and I’ll deal with it. Otherwise there’s not a whole lot I can do. I’m not going to do a blanket search in the logs for abuse, I don’t have the time right now and to be honest it’s selfish to even ask.
tldr: PM who abused and when they did and I’ll take care of it.
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