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Here are some things that I’ve noticed with the mod that cause discrepancies among players…
- keep the money you would get off a winning team if you are team-swapped after round
- protect people from being shot who are team-swapped
- spawn protection 3 seconds for scoutzknivez
- change the default team-swap skin on t to anything else but that all-white one that sticks out so bad
some of these should be easy to change and some difficult.. the money should be difficult I believe.. and you could prolly make the team balancer just wait a few seconds before switching the player after the round.. so that they are switched almost immediately before the next round begins…
note: these are just suggestions – please no flames
You are fortunate… I couldn’t think of any ways to troll you
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Those ideas sound solid to me!
These are good suggestions and I agree with those…but the biggest complaint i hear is still about the auto-balancer. It’s pretty broke.
Like Lemm, i am not trying to cause flames. I just wanted to bring up the auto balancer problem to maybe see what is being done or can be done to fix it.
protect people from being shot who are team-swapped
we’ve dealt with this one a lot, most people like the chaos and the chance to nail one of their teamates, apparently our server attracts treacherous *edited*s, i’m fine with it, most people get used to it after a while and i think many enjoy it
rainefardreamer said:
protect people from being shot who are team-swappedwe’ve dealt with this one a lot, most people like the chaos and the chance to nail one of their teamates, apparently our server attracts treacherous *edited*s, i’m fine with it, most people get used to it after a while and i think many enjoy it
o yes rain.. I am one of those trecherous *edited*s that kills people after the round.. I’m quite good at it.. but I feel bad after doing so and I get really *edited*ed when it happens to me so I would like to not be able to do it <3
and of course if I can’t do it then I don’t want anyone else to be able to do it.
rainefardreamer said:
protect people from being shot who are team-swappedwe’ve dealt with this one a lot, most people like the chaos and the chance to nail one of their teamates, apparently our server attracts treacherous *edited*s, i’m fine with it, most people get used to it after a while and i think many enjoy it
ha im on of the many that enjoy its very fun.
But lemm is right and dead on with the changes
great suggestions,,, i personally wish more people would voice suggestions to make the server better when they see the opportunity.
good job lemm
I believe the autobalancer is on Liam’s list of stuff to do once he is done being busy with school/life…
The money keeping bit would be nice…
Team swapping kills are the winrar! Dun change that!!!
Either get the 3 second spawn protection, or just allow people to spawn shoot/kill, it isn’t THAT big of a deal, get out the door, shoot as you leave the door, done…
And not that I ever don’t pick the snowman(I always do!!), I’m sure some of the pro 7331zorz hate the contrast it brings on many maps…understandable if peeps want that changed, I could care less…
***edit*** I could not find the thread where we were supposed to add suggestions for the server, but I know it is there somewhere…
yea i enjoy the whole killing at the end of the round bit. like if i know that someone is gonna get transferred ill follow my buddy around just to pull off a shot at them, and i expect them to do the same to me.
i cant see how someone would get *edited*ed about it unless they are going all out CAL on the server, in which case its more fun to kill them. i mean, if u just bought an awp and use it one round then get plowed in the face, then i see how u can be slightly upset, but its not big enough to have to change.
i guess im just a *edited*.
Lemm said:
o yes rain.. I am one of those trecherous *edited*s that kills people after the round.. I’m quite good at it.. but I feel bad after doing so and I get really *edited*ed when it happens to me so I would like to not be able to do it <3and of course if I can’t do it then I don’t want anyone else to be able to do it.
I think we should definitely keep this “feature”. i think of it as keeping you on your toes, to check if anyone switched, plus
everyone spam fire at each other anyways in the end, it’s nice to get a few wtf’s and omg’s.
A nice way to solve the early round shootings in sk3, is well easy. Ya just take sk3 off the rotation XD, easiest way around it, no modding, minimal programming effort
😆 😆 jk (not really 
)Lemm said:
- keep the money you would get off a winning team if you are team-swapped after round
- protect people from being shot who are team-swapped
- spawn protection 3 seconds for scoutzknivez
- change the default team-swap skin on t to anything else but that all-white one that sticks out so bad
I’ll explain these one by one.
The money is something would have to be hard-coded into the plugin. As Liam is busy with other things atm I can’t ask him to set something that isn’t necessarily broke as a high priority for fixing. I will toss it on his todo list but there’s no telling when or if it can be fixed as it would require coding extra checks into the teambalancer and sourcemod.
Protection is something I pushed for a while back and was pretty much kicked in the balls over. I personally think it would be nice but the server doesn’t want it.
A three second protection on SK3 would give enough time for people to get all the way to the top or in the other team’s spawn before they could be shot. As bad as being blocked in is, it would be worse if half the people playing were in high camping spots before immunity ended. A no-block mod was tried before and failed epicly.
Team-swap skin? I think this is something on your end because when people are team-swapped they use the same skin until they respawn with the correct skin. Definately nothing “all-white”.
MasterP said:
A three second protection on SK3 would give enough time for people to get all the way to the top or in the other team’s spawn before they could be shot. As bad as being blocked in is, it would be worse if half the people playing were in high camping spots before immunity ended. A no-block mod was tried before and failed epicly.drop it to 1 or 2 seconds? and give it a try??
i for one say i’m really good on sk3 with straifin and their is no way i can get to the other side in 3 seconds,, even if i spwned right in front of the doors… maybe 1 or 2 seconds would be the ballance point for not to much time for teh rushes and not to short so ppl can all still get out… idk .02
It takes me about 5-6 seconds to get to the top and I absolutely suck at air strafing. I don’t think protection is the answer to the SK problem.
MasterP said:
A three second protection on SK3 would give enough time for people to get all the way to the top or in the other team’s spawn before they could be shot. As bad as being blocked in is, it would be worse if half the people playing were in high camping spots before immunity ended. A no-block mod was tried before and failed epicly.I’m sure liam could just code a no damage for 3 seconds..
MasterP said:
It takes me about 5-6 seconds to get to the top and I absolutely suck at air strafing. I don’t think protection is the answer to the SK problem.The whole idea is not so people can air-strafe across the map but to follow the server rules.. It is impossible for an admin to watch every player to see if they are waiting for 3 seconds to shoot in this map.. I didn’t post these suggestions to argue over the rules. The admins use the three second rule here all the time on scoutz.. If we’re wrong, then I apologize that I was confuse, but I thought this rule was already set. I’m just suggesting a simple 3 sec no-damage for scoutz at the beginning so I don’t have to slay anyone.
MasterP said:
Team-swap skin? I think this is something on your end because when people are team-swapped they use the same skin until they respawn with the correct skin. Definately nothing “all-white”.No…
On T, when auto-switched the default skin that it switches you to is the Arctic Warfare skin which IS all-white.. I am not dumb. I was suggesting it just picks a different skin or either allows the player to pick it.
and as far as the team kill thing.. I think we should have a poll on that but I think people like the ability to kill others and screw their teamates
Lemm said:
I’m sure liam could just code a no damage for 3 seconds..It’s not worth it. Just enforce the rules. Thats why you have admin.
Lemm said:
The whole idea is not so people can air-strafe across the map but to follow the server rules.. It is impossible for an admin to watch every player to see if they are waiting for 3 seconds to shoot in this map.. I didn’t post these suggestions to argue over the rules. The admins use the three second rule here all the time on scoutz.. If we’re wrong, then I apologize that I was confuse, but I thought this rule was already set. I’m just suggesting a simple 3 sec no-damage for scoutz at the beginning so I don’t have to slay anyone.Be less lazy.
Lemm said:
No…On T, when auto-switched the default skin that it switches you to is the Arctic Warfare skin which IS all-white.. I am not dumb. I was suggesting it just picks a different skin or either allows the player to pick it.
and as far as the team kill thing.. I think we should have a poll on that but I think people like the ability to kill others and screw their teamates
People like it. I stopped it once and got nothing but *edited*ing.
I’ll fix the default skin.
Liam said:
Be less lazy.was that serious??
no way can one police that map when everyone is spwnshooting.
maybe the only solution is to just allow it so its fair for everyone, or 1-3 seconds of (no hit) thoese are the only 2 ways to do this,,, or take the map off and have everyone hate us
NoDice said:
maybe the only solution is to just allow it so its fair for everyone, or 1-3 seconds of (no hit) thoese are the only 2 ways to do this,,, or take the map off and have everyone hate usIf SK is such a problem we could just remove that rule for SK. I am not prepared to give change the balance and gameplay of the map by giving invulnerability as no one would leave the spawn anyway. Why would anyone want to be in the open at the end of the 3 seconds?
NoDice said:
was that serious??no way can one police that map when everyone is spwnshooting.
maybe the only solution is to just allow it so its fair for everyone, or 1-3 seconds of (no hit) thoese are the only 2 ways to do this,,, or take the map off and have everyone hate us
Did anything about my post sound like I was joking?
It is not Liam’s job to make sure the rules are enforced on the server. If somebody wants such a mod written, write it yourself and either MasterP or Liam can upload it.
Seriously guys these are such small things; live with it or devise your own solutions. No reason Liam should have to spend his time coding plugins for things that aren’t even broken. If your question is about the rules as they stand, that is something for MasterP to decide.
Nickname said:
It is not Liam’s job to make sure the rules are enforced on the server. If somebody wants such a mod written, write it yourself and either MasterP or Liam can upload it.Seriously guys these are such small things; live with it or devise your own solutions. No reason Liam should have to spend his time coding plugins for things that aren’t even broken. If your question is about the rules as they stand, that is something for MasterP to decide.
topic title: suggested mod changes
also thanks liam for changing the t skin <3
MasterP said:
If SK is such a problem we could just remove that rule for SK. I am not prepared to give change the balance and gameplay of the map by giving invulnerability as no one would leave the spawn anyway. Why would anyone want to be in the open at the end of the 3 seconds?I honestly see no reason why we don’t allow spawn shooting…I mean we already turned the map into a ghey fest by allowing people to camp spawn which we had never allowed before…why not allow them to shoot from spawn at the first instant they see people?!!?
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