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First…. you fixed the ping issues
I no longer have 101 ms anymore, but 66 but but but…. before My bullets did register normally..
ever since my 2.0 kd went to 0.90 kd in just 3 days… why? because I get killed before I see the enemy (on my screen) and the hit box is off by a foot….
and BEFORE you yell at me for not having correct rates… I tried about several different settings regards of rates, updaterates, and interps….
now If i lower cmd or update rate any lower than 100 it just get worse… then for rating… i do not see any decrease in choke… 30000-45000 and for interp… sometimes 0.011 works and other times its the 0.030 that helps… but not anymore….
and dont say because i have high settings on, because my game runs constantly 100fps < x
btw im on a 16mbit line
vista wireless with a working lag spike fix
btw chokes run up in the 11-20 when enemies are around…
*27k rate and cl_interp 0.010 would be nice
Are you on wireless? If so, that can cause issues.
I don’t have any problems with registration at all and I have 0 choke.
Rate Settings:
rate: 25000
cl_cmdrate: 100
cl_updaterate: 100
cl_interp 0
Liam said:
Are you on wireless? If so, that can cause issues.
I don’t have any problems with registration at all and I have 0 choke.
Rate Settings:
rate: 25000
cl_cmdrate: 100
cl_updaterate: 100
cl_interp 0 <– if you set to ‘0’ it will auto-adjust itself based on your connection.
I know that Vista Wireless es *edited*ty, but I reconfigured it with all the anti lag things there are and I get a pretty good connection… I could try attach my N usb to it… but that one is buggy…
however wireless shouldnt be the problem because I in the past had pretty good registration with the same wireless setup….
As for rates… HOW CAN YOU HAVE 25000 when the server dictates mine to be 30000 or 45000… and auto interp is 0.020
and btw thanks for trying to sort it out with me drunk yesterday
MasterP said:
Because its not at 25k.
The problem is most likely your wireless.
I wanna make it clear that there been no changes to my Wireless in a month for now, and nor to the router or isp. so its not the wireless thats problem with, but if you guys continue to say its my wireless, i will plug the soab N wireless usb back in and check… but seriously after 3 days ago there was no biggie…
MasterP said:
Nothing has changed on the server.
Rates haven’t been touched in about a month.
Okay nrougw i got the wireless N usb (wusb300N) installed with XP drivers… just need to sort out the random timeouts… guessing router problem….
I dunno MasterP, I recently deleted my whole config to make sure i didnt have any of that earlier rates *edited* i had…. i think it was from lemm or liams config… messed up everything….
but everytime i tell it to use rate 27000 it get forced to rate 30000 and i check by looking at the rate (console: rate)
I was able to minimize choke to around 0-4 when running rates of 45000, but still bullet registration is completely off.
but gonna try the 300mbit now :S
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nope switching the wireless unit out didnt work…. could it be im running WLANoptimizer to avoid lag spikes? that streaming mode?
TEH WHALE said:
could it be im running WLANoptimizer to avoid lag spikes? that streaming mode?
Any program that stands between Windows and your network card is going to cause issues. It may not be causing this problem but stuff like that has no place in the real world, it simply doesn’t fix anything and any change in lag is due to placebo effect.
MasterP said:
TEH WHALE said:
could it be im running WLANoptimizer to avoid lag spikes? that streaming mode?
Any program that stands between Windows and your network card is going to cause issues. It may not be causing this problem but stuff like that has no place in the real world, it simply doesn’t fix anything and any change in lag is due to placebo effect.
im using this tool to prevent Vista Wireless scanning every 60 sec for another network thats better to log on… This tool WLANoptimizer only disables the scanning function meanwhile makes sure that the wireless works again when starting up the pc
TEH WHALE said:
im using this tool to prevent Vista Wireless scanning every 60 sec for another network thats better to log on… This tool WLANoptimizer only disables the scanning function meanwhile makes sure that the wireless works again when starting up the pc
You realize Vista has the option to do that itself without needing extra programs running.
The only program I’d ever recommend running between your OS and a network card is DXPORT.
Try turning the program off and see if you really get any more lag. If you’ve set your network up correctly I can promise you won’t.
If you’re getting choke try turning Vsync on. You mentioned you had 100fps which means turning it on would lighten the load on your computer and give you the same experience.
MasterP said:
TEH WHALE said:
im using this tool to prevent Vista Wireless scanning every 60 sec for another network thats better to log on… This tool WLANoptimizer only disables the scanning function meanwhile makes sure that the wireless works again when starting up the pc
You realize Vista has the option to do that itself without needing extra programs running.
The only program I’d ever recommend running between your OS and a network card is DXPORT.
Try turning the program off and see if you really get any more lag. If you’ve set your network up correctly I can promise you won’t.
If you’re getting choke try turning Vsync on. You mentioned you had 100fps which means turning it on would lighten the load on your computer and give you the same experience.
Ill do some more testing today and Ill check with some other servers
although that would be a little hard as i only love WCUI alright i took the liberty to play on other servers nearby (Atlanta, GA) and on those servers I only had a ping of 40ms, they were of similar size, though some of the them ran different plugins, but I had no bullet reg what so ever, I was even close to get banned because I owned the other team so hard.
Now what i noticed is those servers are 100 tick, although anything above 26 players was 66 tick (which is understandable) but the 100 tick servers in same size of WCU ran settings of Rates max 30000, Cl_updaterate 101, Cl_cmdrate 100, cl_interp 0.010, cl_interpration 1
Now rates no problem because I can run 30000 on WCU, but for for the interps, which I frankly believe is what causing some of us to have bad bulletregistration, is cl_interp 0.020 (0.011 – 0.030) cl_interpratio 2, with a ratio of 2, that means the cl_interp is really 0.022 – 0.060, and before I used to use 0.010 in interp (not sure about ratio) but that eliminated completely choke and bad bulletregistration (this was before summer and 66tick)
Im obsessed
btw I happen to play with skins and effects (muzzle flash, flashlight, Nightvision, and blood) however it seems that those doesnt work on wcu server? i thought it was a sv_pure 0? or maybe im just retarded and its running 1? (2 is completely off?)**edit**
alright you running sv_pure 1, any way you can allow materials/effect?
Nickname plays with custom skins all the time and if they didn’t work on our server he’d have *edited*ed at me at me about it by now. We allow custom skins but not custom materials and effects because of the abusive and cheat potential. I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
As for interp you’ll have to talk with Lemm because that’s a server setting but in all honesty if your rates are where they’re supposed to be then YOU shouldn’t get any lag. It’s others that should.
If you’re getting choke then that’s likely the cause of any bullet registration issues you’re having and unless you’ve tried it with Vsync on I’m not going to start monkeying with the server. If you want our help you need to at least try what we tell you.
MasterP said:
Nickname plays with custom skins all the time and if they didn’t work on our server he’d have *edited*ed at me at me about it by now. We allow custom skins but not custom materials and effects because of the abusive and cheat potential. I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
As for interp you’ll have to talk with Lemm because that’s a server setting but in all honesty if your rates are where they’re supposed to be then YOU shouldn’t get any lag. It’s others that should.
If you’re getting choke then that’s likely the cause of any bullet registration issues you’re having and unless you’ve tried it with Vsync on I’m not going to start monkeying with the server. If you want our help you need to at least try what we tell you.
Not complaining on effects, understandable when you can get effects to show a big arrow to where the bombs is.
Now I am following your tips, only thing I cant do is run a big lan cable to my room, so i switched to my wusb300n with xp drivers (most stable and best) and made sure it got the right drivers (took some time to *edited* slap vista not to autoinstall drivers) then I cleared up stuff on the router to avoid some lag spikes, then i followed #13 suggestion disabling the autoscan feature on Vista, but im still left with horrible ping registration on the server, however I looked around other servers and found no problem with bullet reg, though there might be little choke, its not as bad as the average i get on WCU, along im not the only one to have Bullet reg problem.
But this interp thingy does bring back “past” forum posts about bad bullet reg.
Maybe Lemm could allow some testing with cl_interp, maybe leaving it for one day changeable on client side from 0.010 to 0.030 with cl_interpratio 1?
There is not a day that goes by without someone complaining about bullet reg, these guys play on other servers so they compare it to those servers. Perhaps we should take a longer look at the problem and attempt a better solution because clearly it has grown beyond a few people. I know that sometimes I do really well in the server, other times I play like I started yesterday and have never played an FPS before in my life. It feels like the server picks a player and says ok this player will have the best bullet registration. Just an observation but I certainly think we should spend more time looking into it.
We have 3 options for this:
1) Lower the player slots
2) Lower the tickrate
3) Get a new server
4) Raise it some, how much is unknown
The plain and simple truth is that we need more power. We shouldn’t have a server this size at 100tick which is something that’s been said since day 1. It simply requires too much server power to run at the quality you guys are going to want.
We can up the power CSS needs but keep in mind that we’re going to hit the barrier of how disproportionate I’m willing to let this server go in terms of power. Once that limit is hit you guys are either going to have to stop whining and learn to play the game without inventing excuses for every death or we’ll look to other ways to get the shot reg up to where you think it should be. 66tick would not be out of the question at that point nor would lowering it down to 24slot.
I know what you’re saying Bitey, sometimes I rape face and others I can’t hit anything but when I actually go back and look, the time where shots didn’t “register” the bullets didn’t actually go where the guy was standing. This isnt’ the server’s fault, this is mine for not aiming well enough.
No, if we go with option 3 we can raise the rates as high as we want without it affecting anything. The “raise it some” becomes “how high can we go before people complain about choke”.
maybe what about new server settings? leave the server as 100 tick but take a great look at the server config…
Will check later today, see if I notice anything. Oh yeah and I usually know when I just straight up miss a guy and when I see bullets hitting the wall right behind the guy his face is bloody and where ever else I hit him, BUT he is still at 100 health. Those are the times I question it, I have taken demos of myself while playing well and “badly”, I make more mistakes playing well than I do “badly”, and my KD ratio is still higher playing well lol. Not that I really care, my issue is it bothers others in the server very much so, I understand that we need a new server we started that movement ever since Shane was pres, and it isn’t your fault things aren’t being done. What we need is the Presidents input on this or PC Pres, so we can see where this is going. I don’t want pretty words or yeah I will get to it, I want to start seeing results, it is sad that the PC side has been put on the backburner when it by far has the larger community base. Not belittling consoles, but priorities need to start being set by people who are in those positions.
MasterP said:
Made some other minor changes, are you still having issues?
I had a go at it today
yup seems like it helped a lot! a + for you!
oh well apparently earlier today the server was generous towards me and gave me good bullet reg, but from 8pm it just took a dump on me
btw I see we can now use cl_interp 0.010 and ratio of 1, nice nic enice
evidently i think…. hate to say it but i think 100 tick causing trouble/lag when the server is at peak at night
TEH WHALE said:
oh well apparently earlier today the server was generous towards me and gave me good bullet reg, but from 8pm it just took a dump on me
btw I see we can now use cl_interp 0.010 and ratio of 1, nice nic enice
evidently i think…. hate to say it but i think 100 tick causing trouble/lag when the server is at peak at night
Or, as has already been suggested, your wireless is causing an issue and/or you should enable vsync.
Wireless B/G/A/N is still wireless and still will drop random packets because wireless is fail.
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Don’t get me wrong: I know we have issues with registry. However, the majority of issues can be resolved by fixing your own settings to fit the server you’re on.
Cheers!
I was using wireless when I first started playing on the server and never had issues, I think the server is just fine and dandy.
*edited* it… I don’t wanna start this server problem over again, finding a new server seems like better idea because we always get back to the 66tick to 100 tick… atleast the 66 tick was better than what we have now… and today the old bad registry is bad, and its not just me, but bunch of other people.
Its not my wireless thats problem with and IM NOT going to play with Vsync which gives me horrible mouse lag. I still believe its the horrible server settings that is being used that only helps few people rather than all
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