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This is just a suggestion but I believe the new pricing system that valve put into the update needs to be turned off, its rediculous and unnecessary. Also if it is turned off the server will have more peeps in it, no one that I know likes the new system. So just a suggestion, and I am sorry if I am annoying anyone… I just realized that the last 3 topics have been mine…
You’re one of the few people here who actually plays on the source server frequently. I don’t mind the pricing system so much, to be honest – gets people to use other guns.
Here is the problem with is, grenades, flashbangs, smokes, defusal kit, and kevlar and helmet prices will never come down because nobody ever buys night vision, so that right there is a hole in the system. Problem number 2 is the ak and the m4 surprisingly are the most bought weapons, and the most used, so the awp, and the auto-sniper are cheap to buy and will probably always be like that. So no you frequently see people on CT either using the famas, awp, or the bullup/kreig. On T you see auto-sniper, awp, and the occasional ak. It drives me insane and as a person who plays on it more often think it may be a good change. But its not mine so its totally up to the owners, just trying to give yall an insight to what people like me who play source every day see.
I personly dont/cant run source (soon to be changed) so not shure whast goign on. but as you say if a awp/auto are cheaper than a m4/ak that is deff *edited*. I dont see a think wrong with the 1.6 price list, and never herd a compliant. i may need to read up onn the upgrade and see why they changed…
I actually really liked the new pricing system as the Bullpup/Krieg are my weapons of choice anyways but it is kinda stupid that the awp and autos are cheaper than the bread and butter weapons of each team… the ak and m4, besides i’m sick of accidently buying a helmet that costs over 2500$ extra on top of kevlar, so i’m glad we changed back!
M4A1 – $6522
AK47 – $4624
D3/AU-1 – $4623
I disabled it last night. I know they’re trying to get people to use different guns, but seriously, the autosniper costs less than ak47. WTF?!
The default since the update came out was to have dynamic pricing on. I disabled it. Lots of servers do this.
Yep its pretty common, I think when steam designed this update they had their heads so far up their butts, its no wonder they couldnt see clearly…
SO FUNNY! I want to play in cal with source just because the auto is cheaper than the ak. This has got to be something CAL is going to throw a fit over.
yeah i’v been playing on a friends CSS account/PC the pricing was deff ghay… lets just make everything free and able to hold all guns at the same time….
hope knowonw from steam reads this…
Actually, DWP is good in my opinon, some of you may of noticed the deagle being over 16000$, cleary not possible to buy, but that is only because it is the most common bought pistol. In reaction to this Steam is going to release an update making three other pistols more effective.
This pricing concept is just so they can balance the game out more.
Pistols is one thing, then you have kevlar and helmet which is a necessity most of the time at a little over 3k, HE grenades and flash prices will never come down cause everyone always buys those. m4s and ak47s the most commonly used guns in the game will always be bought and prices will soar. This patch may have been a nice way to fix people buying a gun too often, but that can be done easily by restricting the amount of that weapon that can be bought per team via the mani admin. Still a stupid idea for CSS I think, there are other things that could have been done.
I understand what your saying, but what IM saying is that this is Valves way of balancing the game, so dont say it will never happen, because for one thing, the deagle was the biggest priority, now their reaction was to make three pistols better. We could get a new gun, or many things. This is the most universal based thing, Alot of things need to be worked out and it will be.
The main reason for the whacky prices, besides the obvious fact that f1 gets the ak/m4 is that many servers with DWP restrict the auto and/or the awp so the prices of those will come down. Some servers also ensure that you have 16000 at all times so you can purchase anything regardless of price, which will throw things out of kilter. Added on to that is the actual calculation system for new prices.
-Warning, Detailed Explination Ahead. If you already know how DWP works this will be boring for a bit-
Basicly it takes the percentages of how much money was spent on what to increase or decrease the price on items. This means that as an item is purchased more the price goes up. As the price goes up, each purchase of the item will mean a higher percentage. For example, before DWP to get an AK it would cost you 2500. Everyone wants the AK so lots will be bought. For simplicity’s sake lets say 20% of all the money spent in a hour on Aztec is on AKs. That means that the AK should increase in price by 20%(Its not actually equeal like that since there is the possiblity for things to decrease in price, which would be impossible if the % was equeal to price increase, since you can’t spend negative money.)
-Start explination of why DWP sucks-
This is where the system breaks. The AK now costs 3000, an increase of 20% from 2500. Despite this price increase the AK is still the most desired weapon. People are still buying the AK just as much as the were before! But now, because of the higher price the total percentage of money spent on the AK is 30%! The process continues until eventually everyone is simply saving money waiting for thier chance to buy an AK, which after a few more repititions, will cost 16000. And then the next week rolls around, Now the AK costs more than a player can aquire.
-Explination of full problem-
The short version of what im saying is, as the price for items increases it will create an exponetinal curve of increase, instead of a balance like Valve stupidly expected. The curve is supported by servers that give 16000 to all players, allowing a seemingly absurd price to be supported well after the bounds of logic and rational have been breached. The problem is further compunded by servers that restrict weapon purchases of the AWP/Auto, which happen to be some of the most expensive weapons in the game. It is even further compunded by the impression among many casual players that the Para, the most expensive gun in the game, is a useless gun. If the Awp/Auto became unrestricted on all servers, the Para gained a bit of respect, and servers only give you the basic 800 as starting cash it is possible that the prices will stabilize a little. However, the fact remains that there are certain weapons that are prefered by the players in general and it is inevitable that those weapons become absurdly priced as time goes on.
—-Conclusion and Solution—-
DWP sucks, turn it off.
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