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August 21, 2007 at 3:22 pm #25023
Liam
ParticipantBrian said:
Now liam, if only you pwned that good in source
j/kgxti stole my pointses.
August 21, 2007 at 3:46 pm #25029
Adam FaulknerParticipantill donate when we have a spot for the box. as of right now there is no place to put it and Kuros will have ot settle his disputes with IT to even get a place for him to put it.
August 21, 2007 at 4:25 pm #25037darkwalker
ParticipantLiam said:
Honestly, you’ve done nothing but come on here and whine about the decisions being made about WCU Gaming getting a new server. The new server is much more powerful than the old on a number of levels. CPU, Memory, and HDD. The CPU’s are faster, more efficient, and have 4 cores each. The memory is 4gb of registered ecc ddr2. The drives are going to be setup in a RAID 1 config for security from failure.The old box was a dual opteron machine with 16gb of ddr ram. Opterons have a single core and 512kb/1mb l2 cache. The Intel Xeon chips are 4 core and 4mb of l2 cache.
DDR2 is also much faster than DDR memory.
Add into the equation that ITS is kicking WCU Gaming off of their current box and thats a pretty good reason to buy a new server.
I’m not trying to whine just stop you from wasting your money. The current server is a dual proc dual core opteron (opterons’s have up to 4 cores with their 2000 model line) 250 2.4ghz with 6 147gb 15k RPM SAS drives in a RAID 5 config for “security from failure” without sacrificing performance. This system can also be upgraded by simply replacing the chips with the true quads that AMD is releaseing. Intel is 2 duals built on the same proc not a true quad. This system speced with this hardware today is still a $10,500 box. So in the end the new server may have faster processors but with the 25% util the server has been running over the past 30 minutes, dosn’t look like your touching the current power. The disk I/O is whats going to kill you, and unless your going to spend the money for the drives, with your spindle count, your not getting around it.
Of course the main problem with the new server is the fact that no one from off-campus will be able to play on it and the latency will go up no matter what the hardware. IT’s not going to make the concessions like they have with the current system. So someone will have to plug it up in their room. Now the campus external firewall will block all traffic that starts from off-campus and tries to access it. IT has also made several policy changes on the packetshaper to prioritize the game traffic from the current server. Without those policies, the traffic will get absorbed in the general ResNet traffic.
IT’s kicking you off the box? They havn’t said anything like that. Sounds to me like they gave you a way to access it through an administrator who won’t try and take down the system for fun and you don’t like it. Not to mention that this web site is run on another server that IT gave you. Considering the fact that the game club was never going to have remote access to the server when they started, I think IT’s been awful nice to you.
August 21, 2007 at 4:41 pm #25038Liam
Participantdarkwalker said:
I’m not trying to whine just stop you from wasting your money. The current server is a dual proc dual core opteron (opterons’s have up to 4 cores with their 2000 model line) 250 2.4ghz with 6 147gb 15k RPM SAS drives in a RAID 5 config for “security from failure” without sacrificing performance. This system can also be upgraded by simply replacing the chips with the true quads that AMD is releaseing. Intel is 2 duals built on the same proc not a true quad. This system speced with this hardware today is still a $10,500 box. So in the end the new server may have faster processors but with the 25% util the server has been running over the past 30 minutes, dosn’t look like your touching the current power. The disk I/O is whats going to kill you, and unless your going to spend the money for the drives, with your spindle count, your not getting around it.Of course the main problem with the new server is the fact that no one from off-campus will be able to play on it and the latency will go up no matter what the hardware. IT’s not going to make the concessions like they have with the current system. So someone will have to plug it up in their room. Now the campus external firewall will block all traffic that starts from off-campus and tries to access it. IT has also made several policy changes on the packetshaper to prioritize the game traffic from the current server. Without those policies, the traffic will get absorbed in the general ResNet traffic.
IT’s kicking you off the box? They havn’t said anything like that. Sounds to me like they gave you a way to access it through an administrator who won’t try and take down the system for fun and you don’t like it. Not to mention that this web site is run on another server that IT gave you. Considering the fact that the game club was never going to have remote access to the server when they started, I think IT’s been awful nice to you.
Not really interested in getting into an argument with you or anyone else but just because you pulled the specs off of HP’s website doesn’t mean thats what is in the box running. That server has a pair of “single core” opterons and a lot of mis-matched memory. So far as the “spindle” count, RAID 5 requires a minimum of 3 drives and if I’m not mistaken, thats what that box is running. RAID 5 has nothing over RAID 1 except it uses two of the three and stripes them and keeps a duplicate of the info on the 3rd drive for security. Which, while may be a bit faster and more efficient doesn’t make it any safer.
So who are you? You seemed to have made an account simply to come on here and tell us what we “shouldn’t” do. So own up or not. Without any actual knowledge of who you are, why should your advice be taken into any consideration?
August 21, 2007 at 5:23 pm #25050Kuros
ParticipantDarkwalker needs to come chill in IRC. http://www.wcugaming.org/irc.php OR #wcugaming on Gamesurge
As for us losing the box, someone who will remain nameless in IT (you already know who it is) was acting like he was going to move us to an old box and basically push us off tron. That’s why we are so concerned about this whole situation.
As for everybody flaming darkwalker, I know who he is and he knows his *edited*. I’d listen to him.
August 22, 2007 at 12:07 pm #25096Kuros
Participantdarkwalker if you are who I think you are, email me and let me know for sure so I can bump up your permissions on the website.
August 23, 2007 at 3:37 pm #25171lootool
Participantwhats going on with the server? everythings going wrong.. at 3 30pm on aug 23rd..we went to Deagle5 and it froze up and dropped everyone..and we all were kicked out of CS and Steam..then we all went back in and it did it again..I have also noticed that custom maps are much more laggy than official..mainly Snow and Deagle5…Loot.
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