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So, the new ATB is completely kablooie…
Quoting rQ Jay Cutler, “It swaps people when it doesn’t need to, and doesn’t swap when it needs to.”
We had a few teams that were pretty unbalanced recently, and a few times, it required admin tweaking. Only last night(aka, very early morning today), no admins were on. The ATB kicked in, and we ended up with a team of 4 T’s vs. 9 CTs. My numbers may be slightly off, but you get the point.
I totally understand that the people coding the stuff for the server are already overworked, so don’t take this as *edited*ing, because it isn’t. It’s just a hope to get some ideas from other players here who have suffered from the heinous indignation of being swapped every other round.
(aka, this is a *edited* post, I just won’t admit it, HA.)
It is my understanding that the balancer does it by points rather then by numbers like the old one did. Yes there are a few people on the server were if you get 3 of em together they can kill a whole by themselves I being one of those people but really yeah it is kinda broken.
Yea i did say that last night. Well >.> I did justify it with more than just that quote.
Liam’s old balancer worked really well IMO but since all that *edited* went sour i know it isn’t going to be the exact same. But if someone could tweak it so that it balances off of not only points but amount of players on each team. That would be much appreciated.
Whenever we can get to this will be when i am thankful for it. I know you all have been working on other stuff for not only our CSS server and i understand that
But seeing as how i only play on the CSS server, i have a bias opinion of which server should get more effort put into Anything else…Don’t think so in THIS discussion
PeterBeater said:
atb fails hard. always has.I saw EK20, i think, being switched after every single round… and he had a 0-6 score
Anyway where is the old school ATB system that swapped you during a round, but did not change your appearance.
TEH WHALE said:
I saw EK20, i think, being switched after every single round… and he had a 0-6 score
Anyway where is the old school ATB system that swapped you during a round, but did not change your appearance.
the best one was when you got switched after a defuse
Dean Winchester said:
the best one was when you got switched after a defuseThats the one! it was epic, it was spray and pray if you got a switched guy, and the guy would be like: “WTF guys?!?”
I think the current ATB is based on your stats points.. i do see the ATB failing every time stats reset
Its not just when the stats are reset. Its like all the time. Plus as dean says it balanced ex on cabble and he has the bomb and it moved him to ct….he was running around with the bomb it was funny but still annoying cuz we had to kill him first.
Citan001 said:
Its not just when the stats are reset. Its like all the time. Plus as dean says it balanced ex on cabble and he has the bomb and it moved him to ct….he was running around with the bomb it was funny but still annoying cuz we had to kill him first.sounds more like an admin switched ex at the beginning of the round to me… if not then there are some serious problems…
Citan001 said:
Its not just when the stats are reset. Its like all the time. Plus as dean says it balanced ex on cabble and he has the bomb and it moved him to ct….he was running around with the bomb it was funny but still annoying cuz we had to kill him first.The teambalance DOES NOT switch during the round. I’m getting tired of saying this and if admins don’t stop doing this I’m revoking their ability to switch people.
MasterP said:
The teambalance DOES NOT switch during the round. I’m getting tired of saying this and if admins don’t stop doing this I’m revoking their ability to switch people.See I knew it was not the team balancer and I told dean that but he kept saying no no it was the balancer. Thanks.
Actually MasterP, you are wrong here…There have been several times where the ATB lags and doesn’t swap people until the round is 4-5 seconds in. It has happened to me several times with no other admins on…just saying…
I know stats lag sometimes. It will take like 30 sec to post stats when the server is half full and up
I was in the game where Ex got swapped, and ended up with the bomb on his back, and also, I think I’ve autoswapped from T(I know due to autoswap indicator during previous round, though it could have been admin) once and ended up on CT with a glock. I’m guessing that means that I got swapped after the round started. I never thought this was a big issue; I’m more concerned with the ATB’s balancing.
Part of the thing could be the score based balancing. For instance, I’m ranked 88 with 2218 points. That’s around the upper-middle of the point curve. But based on my usual playing performance, I really should have around 1400 points. I’m just very erratic, and occasionally kill Chupa (<3), Citan (<3), or fRosT (<3) by accident and get a point “spike.” That doesn’t make me good, and I think the correlation between score and KDR ingame is very weak.
distemper said:
I was in the game where Ex got swapped, and ended up with the bomb on his back,this
YahooEarth said:
Actually MasterP, you are wrong here…There have been several times where the ATB lags and doesn’t swap people until the round is 4-5 seconds in. It has happened to me several times with no other admins on…just saying…and this.
clearly. it doesn’t balance until a couple of seconds into the round. and on those special occasions when you have the bomb and currently being switched you take the bomb with you. now when you die the bomb just floats around on the mini map and you can’t pick it up.
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