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WCU GAMING CLUB MEETING (September 2, 2010)
Attendance
Awores Guillama
Jen Carman
Mackenzie Chadwick
JJ (Lakitu)
Austin Allen
Ryan Robinson (thisthat)
Ephraim Freed (World’s Best Grandpa)
Andrew Brawley
Parker Keese (yguy 15)
Josh Daniels ( Felix Daniels)
Kyle Joyce (Arch Angel)
Sean Dowey (Swiss Cheese/Liquid)
Garrett Gomez (Manly Moose)
Michael Sapp (Freezer)
Daniel Cable (tF Tallgeese)
Sheena Blackwell (Squirrel R-a-per)
Stephanie Williams (Phantom Darkness)
Shannon Valk (shannannonnan)
Casey Scarbro
Frankie Cangialosi (Italianhitman 47)
Adam Keiper
Jesus Silver
Alpha Diop (Control Blue)
Trevor Lemly (NEBS)
Stephen Juhlin (Kranchan)
Alex Berry (the7eyesmask)
Joseph DeLong (Thor)
Sam Davis
Michael Hufman (FTE Kazama/Kaz-Ka)
Michael Hikes (ArOne)
Michael Roca (RocA wcu)
Benjamin Roberts (Hushmowf)
Ian Hoffman
Zack Gross (King-Terminal)
Nathan Golder (Mad-Medic)
Kelly Cooke (Shayera)
Destiny Green (the_Awesome1)
Samuel Dana (The Saint)
Bwn Dana (Crowleg)
Mike Smith (Operation Human Shield)
Dylan Wills (veeas)
Mike Curtis (X)
Nathan Cooley (Nako)
Corey Sexton (Fizzler)
William Franklin (BawlRot)
Dustin Tuck (Norrth)
William Baddenberg (360 can suck it)
Matthew Mull
Matthew Jones (Freegunnyxcore)
Eliane Pait (Necrian)
Caitlyn Ledbetter (caittyBandG33K)
Deonda Mason (DrummerGeek20)
Shawn Chapman (XxLil-ChopxX)
Day Nguyen (Smokrakola)
Chris Williams (Lucious_vault)
Minutes
8:33 PM
Call to order and Constitutional Revision (Article II)
Tallgeese (Daniel Cable) called the meeting to order. The first order of business was a vote on a proposed revision to Article II of the constitution. The proposal was to extend Eligibility for Membership to those who (prior to the constitutional ratification meeting) had attended two meetings and two LAN events. Only those with membership status were allowed to vote.
The results: 10-0-1
The motion passed and the number of those with full membership status at the meeting was raised to 28.
8:36 PM
Constitutional Revision (Article III)
A vote on a proposed revision to Article III of the constitution took place. The proposal was to establish that only those with full membership status could run for an executive position.
The results:
25-1-0
The motion passed.
8:38 PM
Constitutional Revision (Article IV)
A vote on a proposed revision to Article IV of the constitution took place. The proposal was to allow anyone who attends a Gaming Club meeting (including those without full membership status) the right to nominate and cast votes on tournaments.
The results:
27-0-0
8:39 PM
Constitutional Revision (Article VI)
A discussion on a proposed revision to Article VI of the constitution took place. The proposal was to allow the president to warn and then temporarily ban members from the club if they are being troublesome and disrespectful on the forums or in real life. Several new members raised concerns that the definition of a troublesome and disrespectful member was not clearly worded. A vote on the proposition will be held at a later date.
8:44 PM
Constitutional Revision (Article X)
A vote on a proposed revision to Article X of the constitution took place. The proposal was to make it mandatory that any constitutional revisions must receive approval from the Staff Advisor and Faculty Advisor before taking effect.
The results:
26-0-1
The motion passed.
8:45 PM
Constitutional Revision (Article IX)
A vote on a proposed revision to Article IX of the constitution took place. The proposal was to make it so, in the event of the Faculty or Staff Advisor becoming absent, the responsibility of find a replacement falls upon the President and Vice-Presidents.
The results:
27-0-0
The motion passed and is now awaiting approval from the Faculty and Staff Advisors.
8:46 PM
Voting on LAN Event Date (2010.2)
Tallgeese announced plans to hold the next LAN on September 18, 2010. There was a vote to decide if this date is acceptable.
The results:
26-1-0
LAN 2010.2 will be held on September 18, 2010.
8:48 PM
Voting on LAN Event Date (2010.3)
Tallgeese announced plans to hold LAN 2010.3 on December 11, 2010. There was a vote to decide if this date is acceptable.
The results:
25-2-0
LAN 2010.3 will be held on December 11, 2010.
8:50 PM
Nomination and Voting of 360 and PS3 Tournaments
Nominations for 360 and PS3 tournaments to be hosted at LAN 2010.2 were taken and then voted upon. All those in attendance were given a total of four votes.
The results:
Modern Warfare 2 – 28
SoulCalibur 4 – 22
Halo: Reach – 21
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift – 16
Tekken 6 – 13
Bad Company 2 – 12
“A Music Game” – 12
Katamari Forever – 11
Madden – 9
Super Street Fighter 4 – 7
Gears of War 1 or 2 – 7
Guilty Gear # – 7
Blur – 5
Red Dead Redemption – 4
Mod Nation Racer – 4
King of Fighters 13 – 2
Guilty Gear Overture – 2
Naughty Bear – Not enough copies of the game to warrant a vote.
Modern Warfare 2, Halo: Reach, SoulCalibur 4, and BlazBlue: Continuum Shift will be hosted at LAN 2010.2. Tallgeese decided that PS3 versions of the fighting games and 360 version of Modern Warfare 2 would be used.
9:11 PM
Voting on the Halo: Reach “Contingency Plan”
After a brief discussion, it was realized that Halo: Reach comes out a mere four days before the LAN. As a contingency plan, a back-up game needed to be selected in case enough copies could not be secured. Halo 2 and 3 were nominated and voted upon.
The results:
Halo 2 – 13
Halo 3 – 8
The back-up game for Halo: Reach will be Halo 2.
9:12 PM
Nomination and Voting of Wii Tournaments
Nominations for Wii tournaments to be hosted at LAN 2010.2 were taken and then voted upon. All those in attendance were given a total of two votes. There was significant interest in multiple titles in the Smash Bros. and Mario Kart series. Tallgeese decided that each series would be counted as a single title for voting purposes. If either series came in first or second place, another vote would be taken to decide the individual title to be used in the tournament.
The results:
“A Smash Bros. Game” – 28
“A Mario Kart Game” – 15
Wii Sports Resort – 12
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom – 8
Mario Strikers Charged – 7
Guitar Hero – 6
Punch Out!! – 2
9:20 PM
Voting for a Smash Bros. Tournament
Melee and Brawl were nominated and voted upon. Those in attendance were given a single vote each.
Melee – 17
Brawl – 14
Super Smash Bros. Melee will be hosted at LAN 2010.2.
9:22 PM
Voting for a Mario Kart Tournament
Wii, Double Dash, and 64 were nominated and voted upon. Those in attendance were given a single vote each.
Mario Kart Wii – 12
Mario Kart Double Dash – 11
Mario Kart 64 – 13
Mario Kart 64 will be hosted at LAN 2010.2. Tallgeese decided that the virtual console version will be used.
9:26 PM
Nomination and Voting on PC Tournaments (Non-RTS)
Nominations were taken for PC tournaments to be hosted at LAN 2010.2. Due to the large amount of interest in RTS tournaments, but the large amount of time they require, Tallgeese decided that a single RTS would be hosted and would count as a separate category to be voted upon soon after. A vote of the non-RTS games then took place. Those in attendance were given three votes each.
The results:
Team Fortress 2 – 24
Left 4 Dead 2 – 23
Counter Strike Source – 13
Guilty Gear – 13
Unreal Tournament 2004 – 7
Day of Defeat Source – 3
Bad Company 2 – 2
Quake 3 – 1
Tallgeese casted a deciding vote in favor of Guilty Gear over Counter Strike Source. Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, and Guilty Gear will be hosted at LAN 2010.2.
9:26 PM
Nomination and Voting of RTS PC Tournament
Nominations for the RTS PC tournament to be hosted at LAN 2010.2 were taken and then voted upon. All those in attendance were given a total of one vote. (Note: this occurred at the same time as the non-RTS voting.)
The results:
Starcraft 2 – 17
Command and Conquer General – 4
Warcraft 3 – 3
Day of Defeat Source – 3
Starcraft 2 will be hosted at LAN 2010.3. Tallgeese immediately selected Starcraft: Brood War as the back-up game.
9:45 PM
Magic Tournament Announcement
Tallgeese announced that the club will host a Magic: The Gathering tournament in the near future (possibly at the next LAN). Liquid (Sean Dowey) voiced his disapproval at the idea of hosting a Magic tournament at the same time as a LAN event, predicting noise, lighting, and scheduling problems. Mad-Medic (Nathan Golder) asked if other card or tabletop game tournaments would be possible in the future if the Magic Tournament is successful. The exact nature of the Magic tournament will be decided at a later date.
9:47 PM
New and Potential Member Email Addresses
Tallgeese asked all new members and those who wish to become members to write their email addresses upon a sheet of paper, located at the front of the room, before leaving. He explained that having these email addresses is a good way to keep new members informed of Gaming Club news.
9:50 PM
Election of Historian
Tallgeese read from the constitution the responsibilities of the Historian. Nominations for the position were then taken. As JJ (Lakitu) was the only nominee, he won by default.
JJ retains the title of Historian.
9:53 PM
Election of Marketing Administrator
Tallgeese read from the constitution the responsibilities of the Marketing Administrator. He also stated that the Marketing Administrator would need to work quickly, as the next LAN Event was coming shortly. Nominations for the position were then taken. As Thor (Joseph DeLong) was the only nominee, he won by default.
Thor is now the Marketing Administrator.
9:55 PM
Election of the Treasurer
Tallgeese read from the constitution the responsibilities of the Treasurer. Nominations for the position were then taken. As Shanon Valk (shshannannonnan) was the only nominee, she won by default.
Shanon Valk retains the title of Treasurer.
9:57 PM
Election of Console Vice President
Tallgeese read from the constitution the responsibilities of the Console Vice President. Nominations for the position were then taken. As Kaz-Ka (Michael Huffman) was the only nominee, he won by default.
Kaz-Ka is now Console Vice President
9:58 PM
Election of PC Vice President
Tallgeese read from the constitution the responsibilities of the PC Vice President. Nominations for the position were then taken. Freezer (Michael Sapp) and Felix Domo (Josh Daniels) were nominated. Each nominee then addressed the crowd, then left the room. Only those with full membership status were allowed to vote.
The results:
Freezer – 7
Felix – 15
Felix is now PC Vice President.
10:02 PM
Election of the Secretary
Tallgeese read from the constitution the responsibilities of the Secretary. Nominations for the position were then taken. As Ephraim (World’s Best Grandpa) was the only nominee, he won by default.
Ephraim retains the position of Secretary.
10:04 PM
920 Numbers and Adjournment
Tallgeese asked all new members to write their 920 numbers upon the same sheet as their email addresses before leaving. He then adjourned the meeting.
Note: The LAN schedule is forthcoming.
*edited* that was fast lol. Just a note to all, expect a thread with the tournament rules for the console games by saturday, sunday at the latest. Obviously, we will not be able to decide on all of the rules by then but, expect at least 1 or 2 tournament rules to be done.
First and foremost, congrats to all on a huge attendance at the first meeting. Keep this up and you’ll have one of the best years on record. It would be awesome if we had to move our meetings to the UC MP room just to fit everyone, at that point you guys would be unstoppable. For the new (and returning) officers, forum permissions will be updated Friday.
Second, have the constitutional revisions been written and merged yet? If not, would you mind me helping? (I feel like this version is my baby
)Make sure you guys advertise this LAN event on the ASU website. Those guys absolutely love Melee and in the past we’ve had some drive to campus just for that one game.
@ Kazka, if you need spare copies of Melee or VC Mario Kart 64 let me know.
I’m going to contact ITS in the next few days and try to get SC2 straightened out. There’s a couple things it could be but if it’s the one I’m thinking we’re probably screwed for 8-9 months
About Magic the Gathering, on the day of our December LAN there are no other reservations in the entire UC. If you think you can make this work, reserve the Cardinal Conference Room on the 2nd floor. You should have more than enough space and it’s far enough from everything else that noise won’t be an issue.
Great minutes Ephriam (as always)
Looks like it was a good meeting. I am expecting great things for this club this semester and you definitely have the people in place to get stuff done. Now let’s have some fun and play some games!
Please do not take emails from students. Just have them signup on the website so you can send out bulk emails. We are alot more advanced than that.
@ Mitch: I think we will have enough copies of Melee but MK64, idk, I think 2 or 3 people said they could bring it. And as far as the App guys go, Ill let them know sometime today.
funny thing to me is that Soul Calibur is back. *edited* IM PUMPED! gotta bring back Ms. Valentine lol
adam37 said:
Guilty Gear over CS:S…….
Blame Daniel (Tallgeese) he was the tie-breaker!
Honestly though if we can bring in a lot of people wanting to play it at the LAN and Guilty Gear is a hassle to setup, etc then I predict we’ll see CS being played again. The interest in CS has just been lackluster at best, there just isn’t as many people who play it anymore.
Also Ephraim I hate you, I showed up late and you forgot to add me QQ
seeing that i dont have any real Obligations for the club this semmester go ahead and plan on me running a free play CSS tournament if we get atleast 10 or so people wanting to play. so if you come to the lans for CSS it will still be played. i might even front a small prize or something.
Fascist Flakes (Jagr) said:
adam37 said:
Guilty Gear over CS:S…….
Blame Daniel (Tallgeese) he was the tie-breaker!
Honestly though if we can bring in a lot of people wanting to play it at the LAN and Guilty Gear is a hassle to setup, etc then I predict we’ll see CS being played again. The interest in CS has just been lackluster at best, there just isn’t as many people who play it anymore.
Since it’s an imported game, only like 2 people at most own it.
I’d be curious to see if the 13 that voted for CSS were new members, if so we should have definately tried to bend to their interests. Was that even taken into account for the tie breaker?
I still say we need to give people the information about previous lans game tournament attendence BEFORE THEY VOTE.
It’s not about what games you want to play as much as what will get people to come to the lan and promote the club.
the largest consideration for games should be running the servers for the tourney’s if we dont have a CL for it and nobody to run the server for it on the PC side then you shouldn’t even be voting on it. I hope Domo has a plan for getting these servers up in such a short amount of time.
Adam Faulkner said:
I hope Domo has a plan for getting these servers up in such a short amount of time.
Agreed.
I was going to say that as well, we shouldn’t vote in a game that nobody owns, and we don’t have a CL for. What is with playing old school games, I mean I like it, but for LAN events would it not be more beneficial to play new games? Obviously we are a bit hurt by this since that requires someone to own it. I suppose that is why we have always played old games in the past. With the Steam All-Day Pass that made life easier on the PC since we got access to all the games when someone used those Steam Accounts.
Anyways, best of luck to the new executives and welcome back to the old ones! I look forward to seeing what you guys do with the club!
Apparently Guilty Gear was ran and well-ran and popular at the last lan, it could be a tournament we could have on the side and something anyone can step in and play with or without bringing their PC. I don’t know the logistics of it about whether you play it on the same screen or if you play online, etc but if it is popular and well-ran, as well as getting people to attend future events, then its fine by me.
How many people did we have at the last lan for CSS? And the lan before that as well? If there is popularity for it then I would think that both could be supported.
Fascist Flakes (Jagr) said:
Apparently Guilty Gear was ran and well-ran and popular at the last lan, it could be a tournament we could have on the side and something anyone can step in and play with or without bringing their PC. I don’t know the logistics of it about whether you play it on the same screen or if you play online, etc but if it is popular and well-ran, as well as getting people to attend future events, then its fine by me.
How many people did we have at the last lan for CSS? And the lan before that as well? If there is popularity for it then I would think that both could be supported.
No PC games were run at the last LAN.
Guilty Gear is a same screen fighter with PS3 controllers in Japanese. I seem to remember there being only 1 copy.
The one time we played CSS last year it was very successful. And by very, it was tied with TF2 for the most PC players if I remember correctly. Had like 15-20 I think.
Regardless, do you think it would be easier for a PC player to randomly pick up and actually enjoy guilty gear or counter strike? At least with counter strike, they get to play for 20 minutes before being eliminated and even if they’d never played it before they have a pretty good chance of making it to the 2nd or 3rd round :\
Freezer said:
seeing that i dont have any real Obligations for the club this semmester go ahead and plan on me running a free play CSS tournament if we get atleast 10 or so people wanting to play. so if you come to the lans for CSS it will still be played. i might even front a small prize or something.
this again
Adam Faulkner said:
Please do not take emails from students. Just have them signup on the website so you can send out bulk emails. We are alot more advanced than that.
I would go this route, but most students simply wont come to the site ( a shame really). Thats why I am doing both methods. Once I get all the emails together I will email them about the coming LAN, and about the site
Phonetically Phamous (dice said:
Never have we had all position (except pc vp) be won by default. Whats going on with that?
the people who gave a dam graduated, we are all thats left in the club really. hope we can groom some new members quick
the general opinion of WCU is that every student is given an email account so that should be the official communication tool for the clubs. at least that is what Stephen Wilson and one of the SGA people said.
Bitey said:
Not enough people running for positions it looks like
i think some ppl like me decided to step down from running to help in other ways. I was going to run for Console VP but i thought my xbox expertise was better suited for just running the tourneys
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