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WCU Gaming Club
September 12, 2007
Meeting #15 @ 9:04 – 9:50
Present:
Shane Baker AKA Kuros, President, Treasurer
Tim Macior AKA Fascist Flakes, Vice President
Jason Smith AKA Bitey, Webmaster
Zach Phillips AKA Caboose, Marketing Administrator
Chris Mouchet AKA TRACKPAD, Secretary
Michael Moore AKA Oh Malley
Jeremy Firebaugh AKA Chupathingy
Marshall Hartness AKA Metal Face
Richard Cooke AKA Cacophony
Shai Cantrell AKA Shaiflay
Justin Kearse AKA Falcon
Alec Larson AKA Potion #9
Mike Russell AKA Nickname
Mitchell Pate AKA Master P
David Griffith AKA NO DICE
Stephen Wilkerson AKA Pitagot
Zach Reid AKA ZAattackCH@wcu
Becky White AKA Queen of Hearts
Announcements:
-Registration for the LAN is open
-The LAN is Saturday September 22
-The Gun Game Source Tournament will now be a 1.6 Gun Game Tournament
Topic of Discussion: Fliers
Quantities were discussed but no formal decisions were made
Topic of discussion: LAN Prizes
There was an open discussion of what tournaments should receive what prize.
After brainstorming for ideas we came to these decisions.
1) Console Prizes*
Gears of War – Microsoft Points (undecided amount)
Guitar Hero – Microsoft Points (undecided amount)
Halo 2 – Halo 3 reservation
Madden – $25 Wal-Mart Gift Card
Smash Bros – $25 Wal-Mart Gift Card
Wii Bowling – Wii Remote
*Certain console prizes will be distributed after the LAN
2) PC Prizes
Counter Strike 1.6 – G15 gaming keyboard
Counter Strike Source – Steel Series 5HV2 USB gaming headset
Day of Defeat Source – MX 518 gaming mouse (one for each winner)
Gun Game 1.6 – Undecided
Zombie Mod – Steel Series mouse pad
Prizes not yet allocated to tournaments
Thermaltake:
Optimouse
Cooling Fan
2.5†External HDD enclosure
Coffee Mugs
03 Air Filtration System
Steel Series:
9 Mouse Pads
Topic of Discussion: T-Shirt Contest
The design submission thread will soon close.
There will soon be a new thread on the forums where you will be able to vote on your favorite front and back design. The shirt with the most votes wins.
Once produced the T-Shirts will be available at all official WCU Gaming Club events.
its a five and a quarter thermal take fan drive which is good on the environment… he had them in lans past… google it
Dice what did you mean hope we have money left over for the other 3 LAN’s? Did we not get sponsored? Did we have to go out and buy prizes?
isn’t this in the minutes…
*sigh* we got sponsored, but we want to supplement the prizes. Before we can go bigger on the sponsor prizes we had to meet some requirement or whatever, i forget what it was.
then again i’m just a regular joe this semester. these other people maybe know more
ABritt said:
Dice what did you mean hope we have money left over for the other 3 LAN’s? Did we not get sponsored? Did we have to go out and buy prizes?indeed, i think they got SS and aliean wear,, but dont think their were any “good” prizes like we have been getting for what ever reason… but idk.. im with falcon…. …regular joe here
ABritt said:
Dice what did you mean hope we have money left over for the other 3 LAN’s? Did we not get sponsored? Did we have to go out and buy prizes?Steel sent us a gracious amount of prizes as well as Alienware but for the amount of tournaments we have we could not split the prizes up evenly nor fairly amongst the tournaments, so we took it upon ourselves to better the club by getting prizes that hopefully will draw in more people as well as make the student body happy by giving them something more to play for.
That’s fine, it just seemed like you guys blew alot of money on a small amount of prizes. So I was just alittle worried. BTW you guys should have voted on spending money at a meeting and it should have been in the minutes. I hear we lost our first official sponsor, I wonder why that was. Why did we only get sponsored by 2 or 3 companies? The requirement typically is give them atleast 1months notice have at least 50 people for Alienware, (200 people for ATI), Thermaltake didn’t care so long as we posted pictures and a short story of what happened, Josh Schwartz was handling ATD, Bawls was a simple form just tell them how many people you are expecting, etc. Granted, I hope that from the past lans we have continued posting/ emailing pictures and a short story of what happened at the LANS so that we could keep each sponsor happy…It is sort of a requirement to continuing being sponsored. But if you don’t know what the requirements for each are go to the executives thread. Notice the Sponsors thread at the top that I created a long time ago…its all in there. Plus for any new sponsors we are supposed to add them to my post along with any information needed for future people to contact them to continue sponsorship.
BTW, who is sitting at the door collecting money this time? Make sure they know to get names and player ID’s and how are they going to know who is a paid member and who’s not? Just wondering…I like doing it fyi.
if i remember right all member fees reset this summer (they run fall – spring), so everyone pays this time, minus the execs?
That is how I wanted it, made it easier for us to keep track of, but I don’t think that is how it was told to the members or voted on…I believe it was stated if you pay $10 you get into 4 LANS free…So those that paid at the last lan still get 3 more. But I was against that because of the confusion and headache it will cause…i.e. at this LAN. But if you were at that meeting, you remimber I was overruled by several people, (an error in judgement if you ask me)
BTW, I demand this statement be removed from the constitution…”Furthermore, Mitchell Pate must report to the LAN at the discretion of the president.”
On the grounds it is not relevant to anything and let’s say that Mitchell Pate graduates and moves to California or some other state or country, he will want to get on with his life at some point, and future presidents might not even know who he is… THIS IS NOT RELEVANT. Let’s be real people, it doesn’t belong in the constitution. And even if it did, it doesn’t belong where its located. Notice we do have a LAN Event Section…it would go there. HOWEVER, if you have read the constitution you know that it is extremely out of place. IT DOES NOT BELONG!!
I move that we remove “Furthermore, Mitchell Pate must report to the LAN at the discretion of the president.” from the constitution.
ABritt said:
BTW you guys should have voted on spending money at a meeting and it should have been in the minutes. It was votedI hear we lost our first official sponsor, I wonder why that was. my gess is b/c pics were never sent to him this last lan
Bawls -Aheam <_>
ABritt said:
(an error in judgement if you ask me) -agreed, made things more fair, but its not like we are asking that much,, anywhoBTW, I demand this statement be removed from the constitution…”Furthermore, Mitchell Pate must report to the LAN at the discretion of the president.” — Our clubs a joke now
/not a very happy dice
well, I would have to agree, with that statement in the constitution, our club does seem like a joke now to me too, But I was hoping that maybe it could be saved and revived somehow. I guess people really did love Adam…shame he had to graduate. Much love to DICE!!
The Bawls things was a joke…you remimber when we would get both red bull and bawls… BTW do we have red bull as a sponsor?
Dice we are so going to party this weekend!!! Make sure Nicole is going to be there, I miss that girl too. Only privledged people get the invite to the best LAN afterparty so far and guess what you, Loot, and Nicole make VIP!
As i work for redbull now, had the girls show up at our kickoff meeting and they reported to my manager that we wernt really stoked about seeing them. as far as the lan,, i’m trying get them to come up again,, but its not looking good, as they went impressed last visit.
maby the group of execs going to the app lan will see how they run things and get their eyes opened to what we can be as far as sponsors/infrastructure and community
As far as VIP party, their will be enoulf NRG to get us through 8am so we dont end up like rossy & Kek
NoDice said:
As i work for redbull now, had the girls show up at our kickoff meeting and they reported to my manager that we wernt really stoked about seeing them. as far as the lan,, i’m trying get them to come up again,, but its not looking good, as they went impressed last visit.Are we supposed to be stoked about getting the drink itself or stoked about who they sent to give it to us because from where I was sitting everyone was more than happy to see them walk in. People were a little busy though, if I remember correctly they showed up in the middle of one of the CS/CSS tournament qualifiers. Not the best time. I also remember that they gave out LOTS of the stuff so you it’s hard to say we weren’t at least a little appreciative.
I don’t exactly see the amendment about kip being a bad things. imo it’s adds character and some personal history to the club. More like “lawl he’s the guy who likes kip from napolean dynamite. I think of it more as an inside joke that will help things preserve.” Being too formal and divorcing the club from having any personality will kind dampen the spirit of the community. Maybe my argument here is reaching just a bit too far and exaggerating, but I think the same can be said of claiming that it makes a joke of our club.
MasterP said:
Are we supposed to be stoked about getting the drink itself or stoked about who they sent to give it to us because from where I was sitting everyone was more than happy to see them walk in. People were a little busy though, if I remember correctly they showed up in the middle of one of the CS/CSS tournament qualifiers. Not the best time. I also remember that they gave out LOTS of the stuff so you it’s hard to say we weren’t at least a little appreciative.I was talking about the meeting… but your right we were very appreciative,,, but thats just not what was reported to my manager, thus making it difficult to do it again… all i was sayign their
Brian said:
I don’t exactly see the amendment about kip being a bad things. imo it’s adds character and some personal history to the club. More like “lawl he’s the guy who likes kip from napolean dynamite. I think of it more as an inside joke that will help things preserve.” Being too formal and divorcing the club from having any personality will kind dampen the spirit of the community. Maybe my argument here is reaching just a bit too far and exaggerating, but I think the same can be said of claiming that it makes a joke of our club.the serious stuff is serious
when SGA or sponsors look at our history tab (preatty much the only ones who do) they dont know who he is, and wouldent find it flattering
yes we are a gaming club, we are to have fun…
But is the Juice Worth the Squeeze????? not enoulf good can come from what bad it can do. that is my point oh too.
ABritt said:
That’s fine, it just seemed like you guys blew alot of money on a small amount of prizes. So I was just alittle worried. BTW you guys should have voted on spending money at a meeting and it should have been in the minutes.As Dice said, we voted. We had a meeting basically specifically for the voting of spending money on prizes.
ABritt said:
I hear we lost our first official sponsor, I wonder why that was. Why did we only get sponsored by 2 or 3 companies? The requirement typically is give them atleast 1months notice have at least 50 people for Alienware, (200 people for ATI), Thermaltake didn’t care so long as we posted pictures and a short story of what happened, Josh Schwartz was handling ATD, Bawls was a simple form just tell them how many people you are expecting, etc. Granted, I hope that from the past lans we have continued posting/ emailing pictures and a short story of what happened at the LANS so that we could keep each sponsor happy…It is sort of a requirement to continuing being sponsored. But if you don’t know what the requirements for each are go to the executives thread. Notice the Sponsors thread at the top that I created a long time ago…its all in there. Plus for any new sponsors we are supposed to add them to my post along with any information needed for future people to contact them to continue sponsorship.As to my knowledge Computer Dynamics did not want to sponsor us anymore because he did not want to pay for something and then donate it to us. If I remember correctly he said he was losing money on us and could not do so anymore. We e-mailed Alienware, Steel, nVidia, ATI, etc all well before the LAN (1+ month). Steel and Alienware responded in kind and since Thermaltake sent us their prizes late at the last lan, we did not want to double up. Josh Schwartz has basically not been apart of the Gaming Club for a while now. He never showed up for meetings and mis appropriately and irresponsibly deleted posts on the forums from users because he did not like their opinions on a matter. We haven’t had ADT as a sponsor in a while. Bawls conflicts with RedBull so we cannot get Bawls, as Dice said.
ABritt said:
BTW, I demand this statement be removed from the constitution…”Furthermore, Mitchell Pate must report to the LAN at the discretion of the president.”On the grounds it is not relevant to anything and let’s say that Mitchell Pate graduates and moves to California or some other state or country, he will want to get on with his life at some point, and future presidents might not even know who he is… THIS IS NOT RELEVANT. Let’s be real people, it doesn’t belong in the constitution. And even if it did, it doesn’t belong where its located. Notice we do have a LAN Event Section…it would go there. HOWEVER, if you have read the constitution you know that it is extremely out of place. IT DOES NOT BELONG!!
I move that we remove “Furthermore, Mitchell Pate must report to the LAN at the discretion of the president.” from the constitution.
Mitch Pate is a good guy and the “movement” about Mitch being put into the constitution was a joke and viewed as one. I do not believe it is in the “official” constitution but I may be wrong, as I often am. Either way, it is being blown up and out of proportions. Sure if it was on the official constitution and shown to the SGA, etc then of course it would be a bad thing.
ABritt said:
well, I would have to agree, with that statement in the constitution, our club does seem like a joke now to me too, But I was hoping that maybe it could be saved and revived somehow. I guess people really did love Adam…shame he had to graduate. Much love to DICE!!The Bawls things was a joke…you remimber when we would get both red bull and bawls… BTW do we have red bull as a sponsor?
Dice we are so going to party this weekend!!! Make sure Nicole is going to be there, I miss that girl too. Only privledged people get the invite to the best LAN afterparty so far and guess what you, Loot, and Nicole make VIP!
How is the club a joke because of one little play on Mitch? I fail to see how anything we’ve done has turned the club into a joke, as everything we’ve done and currently are doing is what was being done in the past and is generating a larger club in general. What could we do differently that we are doing now to “save” or “revive” the club if all we are doing is following in your footsteps and following exact steps and making the club grow?
Sorry but it is in the official constitution… It might be a joke but our sponsors won’t get it and they matter. And you guys might have voted on spending the money but it is not in the minutes…thus did not officially occur (at least according to SGA). And if as Dice said we don’t really have RedBull then why don’t we have Bawls? Just trying to understand that one. ComputerDynamics…he only quit being our sponsor because he didn’t like the person that went in there…don’t know who it was, but I know Tony and that is how he operates. He loved me and Adam and he really liked Dice. He really detested Josh, and I don’t know how he feels about Shane. But if he’s not sponsoring then the person that went in there did so with the wrong attitude and cost us that sponsorship.
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if i remember right all member fees reset this summer (they run fall – spring), so everyone pays this time, minus the execs?Whoa now. I paid 10 at the last LAN because I was told it would carry over to the next year. Are you saying I dropped the extra five just for the hell of it then? I’ll be a tad bit displeased if that turns out to be the case.
NoDice said:
As i work for redbull now, had the girls show up at our kickoff meeting and they reported to my manager that we wernt really stoked about seeing them. as far as the lan,, i’m trying get them to come up again,, but its not looking good, as they went impressed last visit.The timing by Red Bull was not so great at the last lan, as stated before. The Red Bull people arrived during a time in which most PC Gamers were involved already in a tournament. I know it was unavoidable and it was unfortunate, but as stated earlier it wasn’t as though we weren’t appreciative.
NoDice said:
maby the group of execs going to the app lan will see how they run things and get their eyes opened to what we can be as far as sponsors/infrastructure and communityWhat? I’ve seen more than enough people who come into our servers who do not even KNOW when App’s lan is. App’s forums were recently redone and wiped clean, they BARELY had 50-100 posts in WEEKS, compared to 50-100 in a day here. App’s server is EMPTY 3/4 of the day while we are FULL 3/4 of the day, ranked in the top 50 for CS and in the top 150 for CS: S. I FAIL to see how we’ve driven this club in the wrong way and FAIL to see how we aren’t doing anything correctly. App has more local sponsors available to them and most of their other sponsors we already have. RedOctane is one of the only large sponsors I see that App has that we do not, and I have voiced many times to send RedOctane an email asking for sponsorship, but unfortunately this was within the 1 month time frame and we would not have gotten their sponsorship.
ABritt said:
Sorry but it is in the official constitution… It might be a joke but our sponsors won’t get it and they matter. And you guys might have voted on spending the money but it is not in the minutes…thus did not officially occur (at least according to SGA). And if as Dice said we don’t really have RedBull then why don’t we have Bawls? Just trying to understand that one. ComputerDynamics…he only quit being our sponsor because he didn’t like the person that went in there…don’t know who it was, but I know Tony and that is how he operates. He loved me and Adam and he really liked Dice. He really detested Josh, and I don’t know how he feels about Shane. But if he’s not sponsoring then the person that went in there did so with the wrong attitude and cost us that sponsorship.Do we send our sponsors the official constitution or the constitution that we have that says that Mitch has to come? We send them to the official one. About the voting not being in the minutes, that’s out of my hands as Trackpad should have put it in there, and I know he counted votes, so I’m sure it was just an honest and simple mistake.
Dice hasn’t communicated with ANY of us about RedBull not being happy with us. This is the FIRST time I’ve heard a single bit about it. Maybe he’s said things to Shane but I haven’t heard a thing, and as acting VP I believe I should be informed as well. If we KNEW RedBull was unhappy with us we could’ve and would’ve asked both companies. As far as I knew we were in good standing with Red Bull, I mean Dice brought it in for the first meeting and it was great! How are we supposed to know and have enough time if no communication is made?
As far as ComputerDynamics, as I said before I just know what I was told. He may not like Shane and he may like him, I do not know.
Cacophony said:
Whoa now. I paid 10 at the last LAN because I was told it would carry over to the next year. Are you saying I dropped the extra five just for the hell of it then? I’ll be a tad bit displeased if that turns out to be the case.You’re fine, you won’t have to pay again. What she wanted was to allow people to pay for the 4 LANs at the beginning of the year but afterwards if you did not have a year long membership, that you would have to pay $5 at the next 3 LANs. Instead it was voted otherwise and a member can purchase a year long membership anytime and it will carry over for 4 LANs. Granted her system would be a lot less work and stressful, we wanted it so that people who pay to get in at first to “test” everything out the option to pay for year long membership later, not to mention students that come to Western during the Spring.
Were any follow ups ever made on the sponsorships in which we never recieved a response from? I know when we first tried for nvidea, ATI, and a few others it took about 2 and sometimes 3 follow-ups to get them to sponsor and as long as we posted pics form the LAN (or proof we weren’t waisting their money) they had no problems w/ continuing to sponsor us. Most sponsors will start out w/ small prizes and if they see that the club is serious, dedicated, and has good pics/turnouts then they eventually start providing larger/nicer prizes.
btw: It’s not definite yet, I may come to the LAN but more than likely wont be gaming. Mainly just to meet everyone and see the old adams family
Look you guys can put the Mitchell Pate thing in some other rules thing, but it does not belong in the constitution. Granted I’m probably more politically inclined that the rest of you, and I probably have a deeper respect and understanding for our three branches of government, as I wanted to join one of them for the longest time. But Let’s say for arguement sake that the fourth president of the US, James Madison, got congress to approve a joke to have the phrase “Furthermore, Joe Smith must report to sessions of congress at the discretion of the president.” added to the constitution. Other than 39 president’s having been in the office after that, it would make the US look like a joke as the constitution was one of the key building blocks to which our country was built. It does not belong in the constitution. What if Joe Smith want’s to move on with his life, what if he decided he hated the U.S and moved to Canada. What are the other President’s to think about that phrase, much less other Countries. Believe it or not our constitution is looked at by other clubs and organizations, colleges, and sponsors. Put it in the club rules or server rules I don’t care, but remove it from the constitution. For those of you who want ‘personality’ why not put it in the club or server rules. There it would be noticed and would add personality. There it wouldn’t be taken as serious. And just in case you were wondering, I won’t stop until its removed! I’ll bring it up at the LAN and have a vote there if I have to.
Woot, just 1 day until the LAN and we are going to have 2 FOUNDERS there! I hope that the new gaming club members have the decency to show them the proper respect they deserve. Now we just need to get Tyler to come.
BTW do we know how many people have signed up for this LAN?
ABritt said:
BTW do we know how many people have signed up for this LAN?I count 55. (duplicates included)
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