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seriously… change this *edited*… your like d2 brings people in… yeah well not when it’s on every *edited*in 25-30 min… honestly, i dunno who the *edited* was able to make this a 24/7 d2 server… but just take it off…
“oh renton ur just raging and don’t like the map, go play ur sk3 on another server”
*edited* that, ok let’s look logically, cause that’s how i am…
ok so we have
0:00 d2
0:20 contra
0:35 piranesi
0:55 inferno
1:15 season
1:30 d2
1:50 cobble
2:10 mill
2:30 office
2:50 d2
hmmm well renton u left out the maps that are only on once a rotation and for 10 min… yeah well that’s cause they get rtv everytime… which i’ll get to later…
so why am i playing the same *edited*in map 3 times in 3 hours?! are there not enough maps out there? that we have to have a 10map rotation and 3 of them are d2…? and don’t even say all the ones that are there for 10 min don’t get rocked… cause they do every *edited*in time…
oh hey.. let’s rock the vote, oh look d2 comes up, that “pops” the server… every *edited*in time… it’s like d2 is the only map that can bring people in according to some ‘P’eople, and honestly that is the biggest load of *edited* anywhere.
I don’t give a *edited* what map is on, if i’m gonna play css, i join wcu, we have a lot of regs on this server, a lot. And i’m pretty sure most of them are as sick of *edited*in d2 as i am. Just take it off… replace with d1, or anything… do you know how many *edited*in map threads we’ve had in the past, how many awesome *edited*in maps chupa has on his comp, i think it’s over 3000 now. I mean why the hell are we limiting ourself by only playing d2.
/d2rant
next – i went over maps
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rtv –
so i was here when rtv was instituted, as were most of the upper lvl admins here, it was instituted cause we didn’t have enough admins at the time willing to put in the time and there were lots of times it needed changed when the server was semi full and no admins… so we added it… then we took away all our admins power to change maps… that’s not my decision – i will say this, if your going to trust admins, do it. don’t half-*edited* piddy *edited* *edited*. Cuase it’s annoying and ridic. It’s insane that i can ban someone from ever playing here again, yet i can’t change the map when it’s me and 2 buddies trying to populate the server. Which happens… every… *edited*ing…. day…. and i’m stuck trying to d2 or some other huge map with 1 bot and others. We have the admins on now, with “lemms peeps” we have admins that can change maps, which in my opinion needs to be upped, I don’t see why that’s not the normal admin level. If your going to set levels… set them, make goals or something people can accomplish to get them, or some requirements, not just… eh yeah i like you here you go. We shouldn’t have rtv and admin change map unless it’s root only. Get rid of one… easy scenario for you – vote for map change by admin (which isn’t happening?), map changes, people rtv cause they’re unhappy anyway cause they’ll always be unhappy if their not playing d2 and gettin the server completely full apparently… Why have the power for your players to undermine your admins constantly, doesn’t sound as menacing as mute-dodging… same thing. It was put in under circumstances we’ve past and are long gone… get it out… we never had it, ever, ever, ever.
How to get rid of rtv —-> make a map rotation that works, people wont’ have to, want to, or need to rtv… – you want tips, opinions, anything information wise let me know, i’m filled, plus i have posts all over this *edited* telling my thoughts.
/rtv
stats –
stats on or off with all the maps, no stats for deagle5 and sk3? take them off the server if that’s how it is… with jugg, same thing. If it’s a death or kill on the server it should be given credit granted there are more than 6 people in. Let people *edited*, if they’re playing here for the stats, and not the funny comments, the witticisms, the ever classic death “YARRGGGGHGHHHHHHH”, chanzty saying *edited*ty a lot, i mean i can list 100050505005606u9w0u820-3y48t0-5124y85120-4u9t851-204u9t051- *edited*in reasons to play in this server besides stats. When stats go down, does the server still full, people in it all the time… yes…. showing you people don’t *edited*in care enough…. stats on or off… it’s *edited*in stupid.
Revisit the weapon modifiers, somewhere in the whole liam fiasco everything got changed for the worse i think and it could use tweaking. – a guy today 4000pts, awps me for 11 pts, i’m right under 5000 – in what *edited*in world should that be possible.
**disclaimer** please note that i am not trying to point fingers to anyone, i think lemm’s peeps is a good idea, i think admins should have map change power, I think as a community we should move forward out of this 10map rotation crap and fix this server up a lil, no it doesn’t have to go back to what it was, i’m not saying that. I’m saying let’s cut the *edited*, make our server better, and take some responsibility as admins, and roots by patrolling. and thanks to everyone that actually read the whole post… and please post any comment you have about any section, just make sure and reference it so we can follow the thread easier.
yeah i agree with pretty much everything you’ve just said… the D2 thing, was good for awhile, as in it was good to bring people back to the server after the summer but now that people are playing again… people are joining for the people not the maps, people join to see the regs to have some lols, D2 doesn’t have to be the only server filler, but since it is still trying to be, it makes regs want to leave or just rtv it because like renton said it’s just getting repetative. So yes i would love to see lost temple and tides a lot more in the server and for a longer period than 10 minutes because those maps are a blast.
The rtv thing, i can see where you are coming from and i agree to an extent… i mean it would be nice to have all admins have that power but i’d see it being abused a lot, and i wouldn’t take rtv off because there are offten cases where there are no admins on and the server is on a map that the people playing don’t like.
With the stats, yes people come here to play with some funny *edited* people and share the lawls, but they also like to compete. so my two points on your idea for the stats is yes to sk3 and deag5 for stats… (also i think they should be 20 minutes as well.. because i’m having sk3 withdrawls) and no to points for jugg because i mean it really doesn’t take skill to kill someone as the jugg and to have them gain points by killing everyone and having everyone lose points for that, just doesn’t seem like the best way to go IMO.
I’m pretty tired of sk3 getting rtved within 2 mins every time it comes up too. I’ve always loved the map. I think stats on sk3 and deagle5 are fine too, but as wildthang said, not on juggernaut. Finally, I would LOOOOOVE to see some D1 on the server. I haven’t played that map in ages!
Stats rebalancing probably should be done. What we have now is the default for the HLXC stats system so there’s method to the madness, just not a method close to what we used to have.
Stats were turned off for Deagle5 and SK3 to encourage people to stay and play. Yes point whoring isn’t something we want to encourage but we’d rather keep those players than empty the server.
Stats are off for juggernaut because it’s basically a +150 guaranteed for one lucky player and many would complain about that being unfair.
yeah i checked it out when we went to the new stats system and saw it reset, that’s why i brought it up, it’s not my way of *edited*ing about the shotgun again haha
Server seems fine to me, everything is in place for a reason and i have no complaints…..other than the jugg needs a teletubby skin.
Don’t take this the wrong way but there will always be two sides to this argument and you are on the minority side now that wants to *edited* about this. I too am in this minority and would love to see some more maps thrown in, and maybe that can happen soon…But we saw what happened last time we threw up a new rotation with lots of different maps, but the same consistent fillers(D2/office/inferno/mill), people start to *edited* about certain new maps, and then if they can’t rtv, then they just leave…
Honestly if we want a full server then keeping this general rotation is best for the server, maybe expand slightly with more 10 minute map rotations in there: assault, militia, D1, nightfever, havana, strike, fire…but again, most of those will not draw peeps in, which means we are stuck with the pop we have accumulated now, and we can just hope that they continue to play the amount they do right now…
And rtv is good for the server, but for larger populations the % should go up, if that is possible, but stay low for the low populations…
There is nothing wrong with giving all the admins the ability to change maps, but it would cause more work for kip and lemm since they would have to check logs for any map change without a post…
RTV has been used more that ive been back, D2 should be played twice in the rotation and not after every 3 or 4 maps. Deagle and sk3 get rtv’d, and when people dont want to rtv, maps usually get funround and eventually kill the server. So i agree with a lot of what renton said
I dunno where you been playing but d2 is only on the rotation twice and it’s on the server more than any other map… by 1.
I would say that we could add one more map to the server, but overall the rotation has been working very well and most of the time people don’t know what the *edited* they want, which makes it really hard to design a rotation that is stable and keeps people on the server.
So basically.. which map?
It’s fine, and really with no offense to renton, no one else is complaining. D1 or militia, you going to setup another poll?
yeah I think that a new poll is best… so far for nominations i have d1, and militia…
I’ll add chateau to the nominations as well
Nightfever, assault, havana, crane, port, strike, strata, russka, villa, dust4ever, prodigy, de_battleship_hdr, de_gambaru, siege, sandland…just to name a few…
Nightfever i liked, assault blows, havana is fun for 10 minutes, crane is amazing, port is ehhh but i can deal, strike is fun, strata is useless, russka is awesome, villa was pimp, haven’t heard of the rest besides siege and it is ehhhhh
So-CaL A said:
Nightfever i liked, assault blows, havana is fun for 10 minutes, crane is amazing, port is ehhh but i can deal, strike is fun, strata is useless, russka is awesome, villa was pimp, haven’t heard of the rest besides siege and it is ehhhhh
I just threw assault in there for the nostalgia of getting raped as a ct for ten minutes…Havana is win for hours, but I would compromise at 10 minutes…Strata is a little big, but again, I can deal with it…I just threw in the others for some random new maps that I’m sure half the pop has never played, and when implemented would kill the server, thus, verifying that we need a smaller compact rotation like we have…
i don’t think i’ve played sk3 once for the whole map limit.
i think russka would be the best map to add
I didn’t read all this random stuff, but I saw D1 – you put that on the rotation and I will come and burn the server!!!! (j/k) but seriously, no, absolutely not. – maybe for a fun night, but not in the rotation.
Nuke, Cpl strike/fire, assault every once in a while, siege, militia, oilrig, tundra, oilrig, dust 1, OILRIG, nightfever, vertigo, vegas, 747, whatever the other snow map was with the big plane down near t spawn. Im not saying go add these all right now, im just saying, a little variety goes a lonnnnnnnng way.
jambi said:
Nuke, Cpl strike/fire, assault every once in a while, siege, militia, oilrig, tundra, oilrig, dust 1, OILRIG, nightfever, vertigo, vegas, 747, whatever the other snow map was with the big plane down near t spawn. Im not saying go add these all right now, im just saying, a little variety goes a lonnnnnnnng way.
I second vertigo.
hmm well it was suggested by Renton to me that we take one or two nights where in an hour or so we cycle through some maps to see how they go. I like this idea and I think we should use some of these suggested maps to do it soon.
yeah lemm… throw up a new post with that 1 map suggestion and a poll to follow… I think it’s the only logical way to not get flooded with ideas and you’ll get better submissions cause people will concentrate on the better maps, It shouldn’t be a discussion thread, just a post with 1 map, the link and you’ll take it from there. As long as we make this painless it’ll work easier.
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