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So I realize that a gaming forum is probably a bad place to talk about Linux, but I’ll try it anyway. I’m interested in getting together a Linux User’s Group on campus. I realize that there used to be one that did pretty well, but I heard people got bored and it died out. I was looking at jobs the other day, and a lot of them ask for or require Linux experience. Aside from CS students there isn’t a good way to get much of that here, other than just DIY. It would be great to have a group to promote the use of it and to have a group of people to collaborate with.
I realize it has failed in the past. I think we can come up with some fresh ideas to keep the group going. I think through Student Computing I can provide venues, discussions, and resources to make it work out. We could meet and have people present and discuss their latest projects in Linux, talk about what we like about each distro, etc. We can also put on presentations to other students, create podcasts, establish a forum, and more. The sky is the limit guys. NC State took their group so far that the University officially branded their own distro of Linux that the IT group supported. We can also probably copy some ideas from the MUG (Macintosh User’s Group) on campus, that I am also a part of.
If you’re interested or were a part of the old group, let me know. I’d like to know more about what has been done and what can be done to keep things active. I am NOT a Linux guru, but I’d really like to learn and help a group get on it’s feet.
JaValon said:
So I realize that a gaming forum is probably a bad place to talk about Linux, but I’ll try it anyway. I’m interested in getting together a Linux User’s Group on campus. I realize that there used to be one that did pretty well, but I heard people got bored and it died out. I was looking at jobs the other day, and a lot of them ask for or require Linux experience. Aside from CS students there isn’t a good way to get much of that here, other than just DIY. It would be great to have a group to promote the use of it and to have a group of people to collaborate with.I realize it has failed in the past. I think we can come up with some fresh ideas to keep the group going. I think through Student Computing I can provide venues, discussions, and resources to make it work out. We could meet and have people present and discuss their latest projects in Linux, talk about what we like about each distro, etc. We can also put on presentations to other students, create podcasts, establish a forum, and more. The sky is the limit guys. NC State took their group so far that the University officially branded their own distro of Linux that the IT group supported. We can also probably copy some ideas from the MUG (Macintosh User’s Group) on campus, that I am also a part of.
If you’re interested or were a part of the old group, let me know. I’d like to know more about what has been done and what can be done to keep things active. I am NOT a Linux guru, but I’d really like to learn and help a group get on it’s feet.
1> Dude, go talk to Scott Huffman in the Chemistry floor of the Natural Science building, he’d definitely help you with your efforts.
2> About jobs and linux experience – i know exactly what you mean
3> I’m a former member of the old club, and I’m thrilled to hear it might reappear on campus
4> You might be able to find in the forum archives or something mention of me gaming from a linux machine – wine + cs:s and cs1.6 was terrible but so much fun. my point – gaming and linux need not be enemies
5> I’m rarely on the internet, but if you have any questions, post me a forum PM or something and I’ll do what I can to get you answers
6> Lastly – Be careful around WCU’s IT and Student Computing talking about linux… they get nervous for some reason. Though not impossible to have a good conversation with them about it, the power structure of IT/SC leans heavily toward Windows. Or so it appears to me.
Falcon said:
1> Dude, go talk to Scott Huffman in the Chemistry floor of the Natural Science building, he’d definitely help you with your efforts.2> About jobs and linux experience – i know exactly what you mean
3> I’m a former member of the old club, and I’m thrilled to hear it might reappear on campus
4> You might be able to find in the forum archives or something mention of me gaming from a linux machine – wine + cs:s and cs1.6 was terrible but so much fun. my point – gaming and linux need not be enemies
5> I’m rarely on the internet, but if you have any questions, post me a forum PM or something and I’ll do what I can to get you answers
6> Lastly – Be careful around WCU’s IT and Student Computing talking about linux… they get nervous for some reason. Though not impossible to have a good conversation with them about it, the power structure of IT/SC leans heavily toward Windows. Or so it appears to me.
Very True, Student Computing and IT Services in general has appeared pretty much anti-linux in the past. However, most of this is due to the massive under-funding we have, and the fact that we’re generally overworked and don’t have time to learn Linux. Sure, we mess with it a little on our own, but most of us have other hobbies and a life outside work. If we say we support something, people expect us to know it in and out and we aren’t really comfortable with that.
Secondly, I’m a Student computing coordinator… meaning that I help manage Student Computing. I am full-time salaried staff (as well as being a part-time student). Therefore I have a little more swing than being an Student Computing Consultant. My (our) boss is really great and very open-minded. While I’m sure we won’t see official support or funding thrown at this, I’m sure he would support my efforts. There is actually a good bit of in-the-closet open source interest among staff members in IT, and I think I can harness that. If you ask around IT Staff members now, it’s pretty rare that you’ll find someone that hates macs now… so things are diversifying at least.
Hopefully I can shave off some resources and get something going. I’ll fill everyone in. Thanks!
I think you underestimate how many companies run their gaming servers off linux box’s. The gaming club use to run theirs on linux and App state’s linux group was integrated with their gaming club. It did very well for them. The club sounds like a great idea and if there is anything we can do to help let us know. If anything we need guys like you and the group that you hope to create for maintenance on the servers. Linux users know everything i have found.
yay, good to hear. As adam said appstates gaming club president was also part of apps linux group (ALUG) and were very successful.
So I had a meeting with Dr. Huffman which was very helpful. Planning is going good, but this semester has been pretty rough on me. I promise I will get this off the ground eventually, but it will take some time. I’ll put together a meeting in the UC, probably the Catamount or Cardinal room. There we’ll talk about the campus’s needs in a Linux group, how to keep it alive and interesting, and what to do. I’ll keep you posted, you keep generating ideas.
JaValon said:
So I had a meeting with Dr. Huffman which was very helpful. Planning is going good, but this semester has been pretty rough on me. I promise I will get this off the ground eventually, but it will take some time. I’ll put together a meeting in the UC, probably the Catamount or Cardinal room. There we’ll talk about the campus’s needs in a Linux group, how to keep it alive and interesting, and what to do. I’ll keep you posted, you keep generating ideas.If you will let us know your schedule we will advertise your meetings and events on our site. Just for informative purposes. Later we may create some sort of partnership with you guys. Our clubs are so close to being the same.
Any one using Jaunty yet? I upgraded today via upgrade-manager -d and everything is working seamless. The new GNOME login looks frigging amazing as does the new splash screen. They really did a good job making this one look like an OS from the future.
i know im gonna sound like a fanboy but
Jaunty is the smartest *edited*ing OS ive seen
It instantly understood and installed the drivers for my tablet which no windows/older linux/mac Os has done before
its flawless, the right click, the selecting, and the writing recognition…. god its wonderful.
I’m gonna wait for the full release. I dont’ know if you remember me falcon, but I chatted with you quite a bit about running cs on linux. I was successfully running cs 1.6 and source on a linux machine (including microphone!). It takes some tweaking but it is possible (and I was getting nice and high fps as well!)
Rob
Im still messing around with YDL 6.0 on my PS3. I am having trouble getting things to work. Mostly its because Im not that good with linux, but I would like to get something like counterstrike going. I have been trying my hardest to get stepmainia to install but no luck. I just dont quite understand the installation process enough to put bigger programs on the system…It would be cool if someone could show me a thing or two sometime soon
About Jaunty…
ubuntu website said:
The final stable version will be released on April 23rd, 2009.I will check it out when it becomes official. Mandriva hates my secondary desktop (super tiny text from the display driver), so I am all for giving this distro a shot.
josrocket said:
Im still messing around with YDL 6.0 on my PS3. I am having trouble getting things to work. Mostly its because Im not that good with linux, but I would like to get something like counterstrike going. I have been trying my hardest to get stepmainia to install but no luck. I just dont quite understand the installation process enough to put bigger programs on the system…It would be cool if someone could show me a thing or two sometime soonOne of the more annoying things for my PS3 Linux install was networking. Evidently the pros at Sony did the world a favor by using the same MAC address for both wireless and wired connections (woohooo we are saving hex addresses cause we are running out so fast >.>). What this means for the end user is that as long as one is enabled, the other isn’t going to work.
The Jaunty repos for the PPC edition blow. No candidate for wine, etc etc. I was going to use it to play Netflix videos but apparently Netflix is anti Linux. I removed Linux from my PS3 and got my 10GB back…what a waste of time.
Best ever troll post on /b/:
o how the *edited* is that huh a computer withut a processor? yeah right. just cuz u dont no about linux doesn’t mean u shold jump in 2 the conversation. no1 asked u NE ways
ALL computuers have a processor and linux’s processor is a piec of *edited* and its not even supported by microsoft either
MajorMajorMajor said:
i know im gonna sound like a fanboy butJaunty is the smartest *edited*ing OS ive seen
It instantly understood and installed the drivers for my tablet which no windows/older linux/mac Os has done before
its flawless, the right click, the selecting, and the writing recognition…. god its wonderful.
Sorry to reply to an older post, but it needs to be addressed.
You can’t really put a Mac OS in that list of OS’ that are plagued by driver problems. OSX is designed and engineered for SPECIFIC hardware. Hack job OSx86 installs do NOT count.
Both my macs (macbook pro and mac pro) are great with peripherals. Great plug and play no driver needed support for any webcam, controller, usb headset, usb mic, usb soundcard, keyboard, or mouse i’ve thrown at it.
On another note, I love the way you all show a sense of “being slightly smarter” because you use/have used linux. Don’t worry, I was like that at first too. Than it became something I never use anymore, but don’t seem to wanna remove from my boot configuration.
RaveN said:
Both my macs (macbook pro and mac pro) are great with peripherals. Great plug and play no driver needed support for any webcam, controller, usb headset, usb mic, usb soundcard, keyboard, or mouse i’ve thrown at it.Vista is every bit as compatible but you never hear anyone say that but “fanboys”. I have yet to see something Vista didn’t autodetect or autodownload a driver for.
I do find it odd though that when Windows doesn’t have drivers for something it’s called a flaw but when Apple refuses to make drivers but for a very specific set of hardware it’s called “creating a total user experience”.
It’s not odd at all….
Mac is meant to be run on a specific set of hardware approved and/or manufactured by Apple. Windows is designed to be universal. Apple does it that way to avoid driver issues. They use the best hardware and create their own drivers. Simple.
Apple’s have choice selection of hardware when you buy them. Choose between the latest ati/nvidia gpus, and the best intel cpu’s etc. There’s nothing for apple to refuse to make drivers for. They only make drivers for their own hardware, and it works better that way. They even make their own Windows drivers.
I have an 8 core mac pro with 16 gigs of FBDIMM ram and 2 video cards. It’s *edited* near silent…I really need to be listening to hear it. Apple’s going in the right direction:)
It is a flaw if vista doesn’t have a driver…but a flaw of the hardware manufacturer, and not of Vista. Apple has a good system going, IN FACT, it’s their entire marketing campaign. Works right out of the box, literally. No fumbling and wondering if things will work together, because with Mac, they just work.
Don’t get me wrong…I enjoy PC building:) It’s not like I’d ever use that hack job apple calls Boot Camp.
On a side note…I found a copy of cod4 for OSX…it looks every bit as good as the PC version. Runs a little faster too (in the sense that servers connect faster, maps load quicker, the game simply boots faster etc.). Goes to show you, if devs would make mac versions of things and quit worrying about these “consoles” and whatnot…computer gaming would kick more *edited*.
In closing, ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble, and ramble some more.
Back on topic….Linux ftw and all that.
It’s not odd at all….
Mac is meant to be run on a specific set of hardware approved and/or manufactured by Apple. Windows is designed to be universal. Apple does it that way to avoid driver issues. They use the best hardware and create their own drivers. Simple.
Apple’s have choice selection of hardware when you buy them. Choose between the latest ati/nvidia gpus, and the best intel cpu’s etc. There’s nothing for apple to refuse to make drivers for. They only make drivers for their own hardware, and it works better that way. They even make their own Windows drivers.
I have an 8 core mac pro with 16 gigs of FBDIMM ram and 2 video cards. It’s *edited* near silent…I really need to be listening to hear it. Apple’s going in the right direction:)
It is a flaw if vista doesn’t have a driver…but a flaw of the hardware manufacturer, and not of Vista. Apple has a good system going, IN FACT, it’s their entire marketing campaign. Works right out of the box, literally. No fumbling and wondering if things will work together, because with Mac, they just work.
Don’t get me wrong…I enjoy PC building:) It’s not like I’d ever use that hack job apple calls Boot Camp.
On a side note…I found a copy of cod4 for OSX…it looks every bit as good as the PC version. Runs a little faster too (in the sense that servers connect faster, maps load quicker, the game simply boots faster etc.). Goes to show you, if devs would make mac versions of things and quit worrying about these “consoles” and whatnot…computer gaming would kick more *edited*.
In closing, ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble ramble, and ramble some more.
Back on topic….Linux ftw and all that.
MasterP said:
Vista is every bit as compatible but you never hear anyone say that but “fanboys”. I have yet to see something Vista didn’t autodetect or autodownload a driver for.ATI TV Wonder Pro PCI.
RaveN said:
Their drivers as of late have been fantastic. My 4870s love vista.The last 6 months, yes. The 23 years before that, no.
MasterP said:
The last 6 months, yes. The 23 years before that, no.The drivers have been fantastic for vista since 2007, the 7.x series.
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