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Same room, same place
Catamount Room 2nd Floor UC
Time 8:00pm
Elections will be held as well as voting for the first lan
I may be a bit late but i should be there. if we cant find a good historian ill run for it and rent a camera from the library lol
ok ill make sure that is know at the meeting, btw what is wrong with the internet, in Benton i get kicked off of Warcraft atleast once and hour or multiple times in a row and its not just at peak time either.
Thor said:
btw what is wrong with the internet, in Benton i get kicked off of Warcraft atleast once and hour or multiple times in a row and its not just at peak time either.
Albright/Benton has the least reliable network closets on campus.
actually adams brother told me the the same about scott. i havnt had any issues in reynolds but your best bet is to put in a self service ticket online and get everyone on your hall to do the same.
Well Scott’s is pretty crappy too but A/B is by far the worst. One summer they had like 5 switches die in one closet alone with no load at all. Both closets have AC units that are broken.
Scott has the least reliable DHCP allotment. I tried to get it fixed over the summer but no one cared. They assume no one is going to hook up a gaming console or 2nd computer and with 30 day IP reservations, well, yeah that’s an inb4’able disaster.
Anywho, can we get a meeting minutes?
MasterP said:
Well Scott’s is pretty crappy too but A/B is by far the worst. One summer they had like 5 switches die in one closet alone with no load at all. Both closets have AC units that are broken.
Scott has the least reliable DHCP allotment. I tried to get it fixed over the summer but no one cared. They assume no one is going to hook up a gaming console or 2nd computer and with 30 day IP reservations, well, yeah that’s an inb4’able disaster.
Anywho, can we get a meeting minutes?
I can attest to the fact that AB has the worst networking closet ever. And yes I was there when the switches dies for no reason… multiple times. Completely terrible.
Scott is kinda funny because they have water lines that run completely around all of the switches… with nothing protecting them… lol
And you cannot have meeting minutes for a meeting that hasnt happened yet
Nickname said:
And you cannot have meeting minutes for a meeting that hasnt happened yet
I know but without Ephraim the likelyhood of getting a tldr of the meeting posted here went down exponentially. I was hoping to plan ahead for it.
Maybe we should have our own e-meeting.
I nominate Ephraim for secretary of Lemm’s made up meeting for the WCU Forums.
On Thursdays, I have a class running from 6-9, but it usually let’s out earlier. I’ll try to swing by and ask who won what. I may even make it soon enough to vote on one or two things. I get the sinkikng feeling that the meeting is just going to frustrate me.
Also, I accept the nomination of Lemm’s fictional orginization.
I’m no longer at Western but chiming in about the internet stability/etc. The internet at WCU is complete garbage currently thanks to their filtering piece of *edited* software, I was getting lagged out and kicked off of WoW at least 2-3 times at night, peak hours or not. I know people currently in Central are dealing with this still so it is definitely nothing to do with the closets on campus at any of the dorms.
Also wtf Ephraim I thought you graduated.
Fascist Flakes (Jagr) said:
piece of *edited*
I’m sure the filter “seemed like a good idea at the time.”
well its doing the thing they bought it for wonderfully…. just everything else in the world went to *edited*. they bought it to reduce the number of virus infections on campus and it does that. i still wish to take a hammer to it sometimes though
The frustrating thing is that I actually voiced concern over the lack of testing and was pretty much tossed aside in the discussion for doing it. This thing was bought without testing it on a single student and now students are suffering for it. There are so many other things that money could have been spent on that students would have found beneficial that it doesn’t even come close to offsetting the little bit of good it’s doing.
If what you’re installing both helps and hurts, find something else that only helps. There are tons of filters out there but they were deadset on buying one during that fiscal year. All their eggs were put in one that didn’t even come close to handling the load and they had to scramble to find a replacement. As a result, the filter that was bought had 1, maybe 2, weeks of testing. What should have happened, is they should have spent that money on William’s plan B, which was new computers for the labs and staff. Can you imagine the numbers you guys would see in the labs if they had brand new imac pros running Windows7 and Office 2010? It’d be full all the time.
The thing is that there was absolutely 0 problems with the internet on campus during the Fall with WoW until about half-way through the semester. The problems with Starcraft 2 were bonkers enough and then all of a sudden they *edited* up even more with the filter and start getting chokes in WoW that make you lag so bad you disconnect. It completely brings the internet to a crawl and affects EVERYTHING. When I was working in the Sandbox on campus my boss voiced concerns about the problems as well, as it shut off on us halfway through a transfer. While it may actually stop people from being completely *edited*ing retarded by visiting sites that are obviously riddled with spyware and viruses, it kills the internet as well. Western’s net was fine, now its *edited*, and could be causing problems for the Gaming Club as well with our servers that are constantly updated and… oh wait, sorry, I was dreaming and thinking of a few years back.
Having listened to some of the selection and purchase discussions, all they seemed to care about was how effective it was at filtering viruses. Everything else seemed to be secondary. Now that may not have been the case, but that’s the vibe I walked away with. When someone has a network problem, they wouldn’t be getting the complaints and since both systems and networking generally ignore performance complaints I imagine this sort of thing wasn’t considered something anyone in ITS would ever get nailed with.
As evidenced by Rossman’s identical experience with Aion, once the filter picks up a few malformed or questionable packets it seems to start filtering those as if all subsequent packets were bad. All it would have taken is for someone to lag or crash in a weird way for it to start filtering WoW packets as well. In theory this could happen to any game or online application.
This is likely a configuration issue on the filter. Considering that it’s happening to WoW, which has always had a very strong userbase on campus and never had problems, it cannot be a packet shaper issue. WCU’s connection is an OC-12 (622Mbit, 601Mbit useful payload) and the max for the last month has been 345Mbit so it’s definately not a bandwidth issue.
This is a fight the club leadership should be having with ITS, not our individual members. Either get them to do their jobs or replace them and put *leaders* in your leadership positions.
yeah i remember how bad the AB networking closet was…that was the most poorly designed/maintained networking closet ever. I’m honestly surprised anyone even got a connection in that dorm
Oh, grad school, that thing. I didn’t even bother trying to go to Grad School, I don’t think Western has a graduate program for Technical Writing anyways and I’d rather be earning money than paying for more education right now >>
Nickname said:
lol @ western grad school
Who has two middle fingers and doesn’t give a *edited* what you think about his academic decisions?
This guy!
Will officially be at the meeting, got off for the meeting but might have to leave 15 minutes early for work
SPOILERS!
Execs:
Pres – Kazka
PCVP – Felix
CVP – Thor
Historian – Haroun
Marketing – a waffle
Secretary – Anne
Treasurer – TBA, but probably Amanda
PC:
LoL
TF2
SW:BF2
BF:BC2
Wii:
Brawl Plus
Goldeneye
PS3:
MvC3
Worms
360:
Reach
Black Ops
Legacy:
JSRF
NFL Blitz
Constitution:
Execs removed from office can run again in one year (previously two)
LAN dates set as 3/12/11 and 4/12/11
Personally, I’m looking forward to the lan, LoL, B+, MvC3, and JSRF should be awesome.
EDIT: Fixed some errors I had made, mind you I am not secretary.
Bump the lan dates up a month each and its not L4D2 it SW:BF2, NFL Blitz is the other legacy, and Kazka has filled out the forms for both dates
MasterP said:
BFBC2? How do you plan on hosting that?
and does anyone actually own this game for PC? I mean I could understand if this was voted in for 360 but PC? really?
Stalinovskovichdavidovitch said:
Execs:
Pres – Kazka
Constitution:
Execs removed from office can run again in one year (previously two)
You know I hate to be the one to point this out but wasn’t Kazka removed from office in March 2010? Wouldn’t that be less than a year and still make him ineligible? Also, all constitution changes must be approved by the staff advisor before being ratified. Was this done?
MasterP said:
Stalinovskovichdavidovitch said:
Execs:
Pres – Kazka
Constitution:
Execs removed from office can run again in one year (previously two)
You know I hate to be the one to point this out but wasn’t Kazka removed from office in March 2010? Wouldn’t that be less than a year and still make him ineligible? Also, all constitution changes must be approved by the staff advisor before being ratified. Was this done?
Well, for one, many people in the club (even some alumni) feel that the situation around Kaz’s removal was unconstitutional. And if I recall correctly, the points you brought up were voted in near (if not completely) unanimously.
Stalinovskovichdavidovitch said:
Well, for one, many people in the club (even some alumni) feel that the situation around Kaz’s removal was unconstitutional. And if I recall correctly, the points you brought up were voted in near (if not completely) unanimously.
I find it interesting that you completely failed to answer Mitch’s questions by bringing up irrelevant points.
BTW: I couldn’t help but notice that the secretary has not posted the meeting minutes.
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