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September 12, 2007 at 3:02 pm #26622
Brian
ParticipantThat’s true, especially after something like VA tech. The competitive elements change it enough that i don’t think it will be as recognizable, to students it will be, Gonna change the name of course as well. The only people that will really be familiar with it will be proly the IT and networking folks and I imagine they will think it is pretty cool.
September 12, 2007 at 3:41 pm #26625Bitey
ParticipantI will admit after VA Tech I did not think this was such a good idea. I think what will make it the biggest issue it is a bomb map, that will have the worst impact. It won’t be much better as a hostage map, but at least it is the good guys trying to save the UC. lol
September 12, 2007 at 5:00 pm #26627Phonetically Phamous (dice
Participanti think it would be kick *edited* to have… if the map turns out that it plays good… this map could possable bring people to campus. Which is our clubs mission…
September 12, 2007 at 5:36 pm #26628pinkcs
ParticipantYeah, personally, I always loved to make maps of my local surroundings, it was just majorly cool to be able to have 3D environments that I had attachment to.
But in the instance of a school, under the current socialist views… I’m really not sure. It’d be nice to have the place looking awesome and as realistic as possible, but it’s cause would probably be helped by using textures and atmosphere to seperate the reality from the game as much as possible…
If there ever is a gun incident at WCU though, any media outlet with the information that theres a replica of the school going around the internet where people blow the heads of their enemies on a regular basis is going to jump on this so hard – and unfairly press blame.
September 12, 2007 at 5:39 pm #26629Phonetically Phamous (dice
ParticipantI think we are good on the chances. How many collages are their? how many had a shooting within the past 50years?
but if all you like… simple fact is it would kick *edited* and everyone on campus would love the idea… Anyhow we allready have the map for 1.6 so media is allready gonna filp if thats what we are worried about… to late.
September 12, 2007 at 5:55 pm #26635Renton’s Big Bro
ParticipantHe does make a great point though. Just in general. I think you can get away with it if you pose it as something other than a school… For all we know this building could be anything, work cafeteria/building. I think attaching anything school related or to suggest it is a school surrounding is not a good idea. I agree with you guys, I’ve never been there but I used to make stuff like this back in 1.1 – I made my house(plus an awesome trapdoor system i’ve always wanted in the house).
Think about this once…
“They made a map where you try to blow up a school”
“They made a map where you try to blow up an office building”
Obviously the school carries many thoughts of kids, education, growth. I’m not saying let’s make this cs_office. But the implications are far less. And I know you guys are psyched about this, but it’s something serious to think about.
September 12, 2007 at 6:20 pm #26636Brian
ParticipantI completely agree there, i have no problem making the asthetics and stuff different. The reason we are using the building though is with some tweaking it lends itself well to a good ole counter strike match
September 12, 2007 at 7:05 pm #26641pinkcs
ParticipantIn that case, if it ever comes to it, lay the blame squarely on the architects shoulders… Silly Architect, making a school with killzones.
September 12, 2007 at 7:56 pm #26648Fascist Flakes (Jagr)
ParticipantHere’s a few ideas then:
A) Don’t name it anything that is similar or could be tied back to WCU
B ) Don’t have anything that makes it stand out that could be identified with WCU (aka: belltower)
C) Don’t make the map 100% exact copy to that of the building, change things up and open some parts up. Make it different.
D) ???
E) PROFIT!!! (in theory)
Everyone that actually talked about the map and helped design it will know what it is, but to a newcomer and to anyone else it should just seem like another custom map.
September 12, 2007 at 8:52 pm #26651enough
Participantas long as it looks a little different, i dont see where the problem will lie… just name it something different, even if its just a random name like de_texas…. i mean whose going to know except the designers. plus, really it would be easy to just play it off as a custom map, even with the bell tower, make it look different? you could even make it snowy outside, or better yet like dust maps maybe? i dont know, it’s your map for WCU, but if your worried about people knowing what it is and causing contraversy, a few insignificant scenery changes and a name change will change how people see the whole map
September 12, 2007 at 8:57 pm #26653Brian
Participantyeah, i want to keep the bell tower though, change the look of it, it’s crucial for Ts to awp into the second floor.
September 12, 2007 at 9:01 pm #26654Renton’s Big Bro
ParticipantI agree with enough, and there are enough belltowers out there that this one won’t specifically tie it to wcu. I think that and the layout are fine. I meant like any banners or art or messages, those kinds of things that can tie it to wcu. It has to be able to be any college, or “office”, anywhere… So the decor can look like a college… just not urs, but i think taking this office style would be a bit better, minus the bad colors. I think a checkerboard tile floor in most of the area would be best, or that speckled finished concrete. It’s very general but reminds you of a place that get s a lot of foot traffic. So it still looks realistic.
September 12, 2007 at 9:47 pm #26664Phonetically Phamous (dice
Participantyou guys are being retarted…
September 12, 2007 at 10:21 pm #26669Renton’s Big Bro
Participanti know you mistype a lot, so were you telling us your going to restart us? Cause i’d love to be able to *edited* in my pants again and not care, most importantly everyone not thinking i’m retarded when it happens.
September 12, 2007 at 10:41 pm #26671Phonetically Phamous (dice
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October 2, 2007 at 8:41 pm #27753enough
Participantany news on this??
October 3, 2007 at 11:29 am #27771Fascist Flakes (Jagr)
ParticipantBrian and Nix have been discussing the layouts of the building as well as the planning for the map itself, so we’ll see if they come up with something.
October 29, 2007 at 7:54 am #29473Brian
ParticipantAnyone have a copy of the edited floor plans I posted here earlier I kinda need them, can’t find em on my computer and they aren’t embedded anymore due to the server change and since I can’t ever get ahold of nix I’m going ahead with this map under the name de_citadel with raven derrick.
October 29, 2007 at 11:46 am #29486Phonetically Phamous (dice
Participanti have the .bsp file gxti was working on… it has the floor plans allready ligned up with a few walls..
November 6, 2007 at 4:01 pm #30325Brian
Participantpost here your aim here and I will send you all of the reference photos/original floor plans/edited diagrams/notes that I have so far, about 22 mb worth so far. All that needs to be done now is make it into a map.
November 6, 2007 at 4:24 pm #30327Brian
ParticipantNovember 8, 2007 at 1:32 pm #30577Brian
ParticipantFeedback please.
November 8, 2007 at 2:42 pm #30582enough
Participanti dont know how to do that. i really want to play this map though haha
November 8, 2007 at 5:08 pm #30591Brian
Participanthahah don’t worry, Derrick/raven is making this into a map, he’s doing the modeling atm. Ask him whatever questions you have.
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