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So I know this is pretty much a lost cause due to whom I’m complaining about… but at the very least I’d hope that someone can knock him down a notch. Lately its become common for Liam to randomly come in a server and slay/mute who he wishes for his own self-justified reasons. Just now for example, he randomly comes on… mutes my friend silvercolt for no reason whatsoever, who immediately pms me and asked wtf he did wrong, where I clearly have no explaination for him. He leaves him muted for a few rounds, with no explaination as to why he was muted, he didnt say anything offensive and wasn’t spamming either. A few rounds later, raine was the last ct alive against several t’s when the bomb was planted, raine got into the bombsite, started defusing, stopped to kill someone, got flashed, and when he finally came to it was about to blow so he started to run to save his gun… but before that happens he gets slayed by liam for not attempting the objective, which makes no sense. I was joking around and said admin abuse, only for him to immediately mute me as well. Then he starts ripping into me over private chat.
Obviously you guys can’t and won’t do anything with him, but I did this to prove a point, that I wouldn’t be quiet and allow a power trip admin to abuse the server. Especially when he preaches about how much he is helping it. You want to help? Go fix your teambalancer so it corrects the teams based on the teams average KDR, not wins and loses. I’d rather lose 16-0 on a map then have it be 8-8, and they have 7 guys in double digit kills and noone on my team is in double digits.
*sigh*
I’m not really interested in expending what little free time I get each day or what little energy I have left each day other than what I have to say here.
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Lately its become common for Liam to randomly come in a server and slay/mute who he wishes for his own self-justified reasons. Just now for example, he randomly comes on… mutes my friend silvercolt for no reason whatsoever, who immediately pms me and asked wtf he did wrong, where I clearly have no explaination for him.I muted him for continuously swearing over chat. Some find a problem with it, some dont, we are representing WCU with the server and the gaming club, and continuously swearing, whining, and cursing everytime you get killed gets old fast. What if a prospective student, parent, or school official came on and saw it? However, regardless, I watched it go on for about 5 rounds, I asked him to stop and was ignored.
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He leaves him muted for a few rounds, with no explaination as to why he was muted, he didnt say anything offensive and wasn’t spamming either.See my above statement for my reasons. Secondly, I dont usually leave someone muted for a long time because there’s no reason to. Either they get the point or they dont. If they dont they get re-muted and left muted.
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A few rounds later, raine was the last ct alive against several t’s when the bomb was planted, raine got into the bombsite, started defusing, stopped to kill someone, got flashed, and when he finally came to it was about to blow so he started to run to save his gun… but before that happens he gets slayed by liam for not attempting the objective, which makes no sense.Seemed like plenty of time to attempt a defuse, secondly, even running he would have never gotten far enough away to survive, third, I never saw him attempt a primary defuse, maybe I missed it, but all I saw was him blasting terrorists and never getting flashed. (Like I said, I coulda missed it.)
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I was joking around and said admin abuse, only for him to immediately mute me as well.How many times have I asked you to not do that? More than I can remember, honestly. It undermines the admins, and generally breeds distrust. We see more than you do. I was speccing a few rounds, I also died quickly in several rounds while you were one of the last to die.
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Then he starts ripping into me over private chat.Yes, I ripped you a new *edited* after you said that the entire upper levels of the WCU Gaming staff did nothing but play favorites with people and ignore the rules. You stated that you didn’t care if nobody else would say anything but you *edited* sure would. You did, I encouraged you to come to the forums and post, even knowing you were posting about me. You stated I would simply delete this thread, I would not, will not, and never will. For you to state otherwise is..well..honestly, I cant think of a good phrase to describe it.
The simple fact is I take pride in this community, both being a part of it and helping it as much as I can in any way I can. Sitting around and listening to someone like you bash some of the very people who have gotten it to where it is today is not something I’m prepared to do.
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Obviously you guys can’t and won’t do anything with him, but I did this to prove a point, that I wouldn’t be quiet and allow a power trip admin to abuse the server.If it would make people happy, I will be glad to go. I am here to help the community. If the community doesn’t want me around then I can help it by leaving. Do I want to? Absolutely not.
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Especially when he preaches about how much he is helping it.I dont recall ever ‘preaching’ about how much I’ve helped this place. You asked me what I did and I told you. Simple facts are not preaching.
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You want to help? Go fix your teambalancer so it corrects the teams based on the teams average KDR, not wins and loses.That’s how it works. Perhaps if you took the time to read the team balancer thread you’d know that. I rewrote the logic behind it months ago to work off of KDR and not Wins/Loses. It simply checks every few rounds instead of doing it every round. There has to be something to keep it from swapping every single round.
You also stated that your admin was taken by gxti, and had some not nice things to say about that.
I pointed you towards the public thread you posted in the CSS forums where you publically quit. I know you had a private conversation in the admins forum, but the general gist of it was almost the same thing.
Anyways, I’m tired, I don’t feel well, and I’ve got nothing else to say.
Enjoy,
Liam
First, your friend was muted for spamming his mic while cursing, etc. He doesn’t have to explain himself for a mute that he felt was justified. As far as Raine goes, as far as I heard Raine wasn’t completing his objectives and was slain for it appropriately. While in some cases I do believe that this is a good decision, I also have the standing of that if clearly the bomb could not be defused in a certain amount of time and there is a semi-effort made to win the round, then there shouldn’t be a slay. If the player is making no effort and is staying in an area that is unpopulated by his/her opponent, then a slay is taken in effect. I do not know this situation, obviously, but knowing Raine I somehow doubt he was just sitting and waiting so I have said to lay a bit more slack.
As far as the team balancer goes: Seph, simply put, shut the *edited* up. We asked Liam to design the balancer to balance with wins and losses, to balance after a team has won 3 in a row, to balance players based on score, etc. We want it so that both sides have an equal opportunity to win and that one person isn’t stuck on a team that goes 0-16 while they also go 0-16. Stop *edited*ing about the balancer, it is working fine and you ALWAYS have *edited*ed about improper balance as well as *edited*ed about the balancer.
He(silvercolt) doesnt even have a mic, #1, # 2 all he said was c*ck nugget, #3 if you dont want people talking about admin abuse than don’t do things that would initiate such talk,#4 raine wasn’t camping or refusing to complete objective he was going out in a blaze of glory and realized he had no time to win so he tried to save his gun, #5 my bad about team balancer, but it definitely doesnt keep the teams at the same average KDR.
The “not so nice things” i said about gxti was the story I told you about him restricting the bullpup illegally on a map because I was having great success with it and he believes it was a noob/cheap weapon.
hehhe, well now, from what i remember i ran to the bomb, attempted a defuse, either heard or saw a guy on radar, sprayed at him, i think i completely missed cause he through a flash first. and some guy in the room at the top in A shot him, or so i recall, and then i asked if he had a kit, since i didn’t (i almost never buy one, for shame for shame i know) and since we didn’t have time to defuse we ran, especially cause i had a m4…and i think i did have enough time to get away and not die, cause i’m pretty sure my health was pretty high and then i got slayed, and it did kinda *edited* me off, partly cause i figured liam was giving me a hard time for not going for it, and i wouldn’t probably laughed it off more if it didn’t want my m4…even though i could buy one, i try and buy the famas and then upgrade whenever possible or i feel like it. Anyways liam and i had a chat, and it’s cool , i don’t really mind but whatever
crazyness, it’s a game lets all treat it like one
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I pointed you towards the public thread you posted in the CSS forums where you publically quit. I know you had a private conversation in the admins forum, but the general gist of it was almost the same thing.I did quit, because I was fed up of crap like this… Brian asked that I come back, infact he even wanted me to be an admin again. Now… whatever happened to that whole plan i’m not sure, and obviously noone else shared Brian’s feelings of my usefulness to the server, need I remind you that I just caught 2 togglers after demoing them for hours in order to find enough evidence. Apparently I’m not wanted/useful in most people’s eyes but whatever, I’ll continue to play on here until I am finally banned.
Hey there,
I am the friend in questioning that Seph was talking about and would just like to explain some things that were said. I know it probably means nothing to you guys coming from an unknown source like me, but I felt the need to clear some air.
First off, I wanted to say there was probably a misunderstanding as to why I was muted. We switch to de_nuke and Liam hasn’t joined yet. I was the last T alive but I end up getting glitch stuck in the door that was in the basement of nuke. Instead of wasting everyones time I type kill in console and followed it by saying “whoever made this map is full of fail (I may have called him an idiot, i can’t remember). Just as I say that Liam joins up and immediately types “shut up and stop whining.” Assuming that he had a bad day I let it go. A few rounds later I get owned, and jokingly type *edited* nuggets in chat, mind you I haven’t said barely anything since Liam was there unless it was directed towards Seph. After I say *edited* nuggets I get muted, not a huge deal but was just confused as to why I got muted. People have definitely said worse than *edited* nuggets (sorry if I’m saying something that offends somebody) and haven’t gotten muted for it. I ask seph what I did and he asks over his mic as to why I got muted. Liam replies “I don’t like people saying *edited* nuggets” or something to that sort; To be honest, I’ve never heard anyone say *edited* nuggets. The mute wasn’t a huge deal, it lasted maybe 2 or 3 rounds, it just restricted me from telling people (mainly seph) where the enemy is. Raine settled his incident and it’s not my place to talk about it, so I’ll leave that with him. I understand some people have a bad day and what not, which is why I decided not to start anything. This was purely to put my side of the story in.
Wow this is dumb. Seph, we have gone over why it isn’t based off kdr, it’s too much trouble to attach to a database or whatever like that and would make for server performance problems. It balances teams well enough. This decision was made with the community in mind, not “favorites”.
As for the muting, I think your argument is about as valid as Brackets was when I muted him for spamming the mic. It’s simple, you don’t have that right, take lecarl for instance, when he starts to annoy people I tell him to chil with it for a bit. As for the specific incident here, my suspicion is that someone is trying to downplay what guilt there is. I really really doubt Liam muted someone out of the blue like that. I’ve never seen any other admin just simply do that, unless you want to make an exception and count me randomly muting bracket for the hell of it. This all brings to mind another occasion when someone couldn’t admit they were wrong, I’d thought time would have given some perspective and changed that, I guess not.
Simply put bring your gripes to irc, not here, not in the game. Check the motd, you don’t argue with admins in game, admins don’t argue with each other in game, irc, end of story.
If there is absolutely no chance of a miracle being pulled off (I’ve pulled off 1v11 bomb explosion on nuke several months ago, it has to be even more dire than that), then you can run away to save your gun. If raine has no chance of defusing the bomb in time and is immeniently going to die, he can make a run for it to save his gun and live to fight another day, that kind of tactic is in the same spirit of competitiveness the team balancer is trying to encourage. Do not slay for that.
Liam, learn to deal with people’s *edited*ing man, no matter how justified it is, we are still the ones who’s duty it is to hear it and judge over it. Don’t take it for anything more than what it is, whatever quality criticism it is, negative or constructive otherwise. If it consists of personal polemic, shrug it off man, it’s not so much a reflection on you as it is on their own inability to be rational.
Thank you for your side of the story ryu. If that is really all there is too it then nothing should be done, a lot of people play this game for catharsis and to let off a little steam from there day. We admins are there to keep it all in line and from ruining everyone elses time. Liam, if he is right, don’t take such a heavy hand in a situation like that, if he is lying and was spamming the mic more than that then all I got to say if *edited* off and die ryu. Either way, learn from this situation, whoever is at fault. This argument is over.
Like I said… I’ll forget the team balancer crap, that was something I added at the end of my rant because I was p*ssed off, I didn’t argue with him for everyone to see, everything was in admin/private chat. I’m still upset at the fact that when I was admin if I ever slayed or slapped anyone I had like 3 or 4 people up my *ss for it and unless people just dont care about it anymore, it happens all the time, even mapvotes in full servers, admin rules need to be cracked down upon once again… it’s getting annoying for alot of the regs.
What you people still don’t seem to realize/read is that SILVERCOLT DOES NOT HAVE A MIC TO SPAM WITH!
But W/E Brian is law around here now basically, so I’ll do what he says and drop it…
As far as I can tell Liam made a mistake in who he was muting, people do make mistakes, we ain’t the gestapo, we ain’t gonna drag a person out for making a mistake along the lines of checking jewish instead of aryan.
Yay, a good council leader. I don’t even really have to say anything
. Well, except I am still the law around here Mr. Sephiroth. Just a little quieter lately.Mr. Freeman said:
Kuros may be the law, but I am still the Freeman.That is all.
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Don’t you mean THE ONE FREE MAN?!
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