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This thread is for discussing the March 18, 2010 meeting.
Nickname said:
wait what
Well, the minute threads tend to turn into flame threads. By keeping them seperate, the minutes themselves aren’t surrounded for arguments. This is to keep historical documents looking all oficial. This is just an expieriment. Liam suggested the idea. Blame him!
Ephraim said:
Nickname said:
wait what
Well, the minute threads tend to turn into flame threads. By keeping them seperate, the minutes themselves aren’t surrounded for arguments. This is to keep historical documents looking all oficial. This is just an expieriment. Liam suggested the idea. Blame him!
the “wait what” was directed towards the events that happened before and during the meeting.
This is a good idea, though unless we move the comments from the minutes thread…don’t think it will work because people are used to posting under the minutes. But I love the idea.
Ashley Faulkner said:
This is a good idea, though unless we move the comments from the minutes thread…don’t think it will work because people are used to posting under the minutes. But I love the idea.
I locked the minutes thread.
Bitey said:
Looks like yours is gone too Kaz-Ka most likely it was a mistake, let’s not jump to conclusions…Nothing against you Jason but Im pretty sure this isnt a mistake. My admin privliges were revoked not even an hour after the meeting. Hell from what Ive heard, Freezer was on the phone telling somebody to go ahead and kill my privledges as soon as the meeting ended. Honestly I dont give two *edited*s though. I’ve got bigger plans.
Anyone that actually gives a *edited* about gaming and is fed up with this so called “gaming club”, shoot me a message.
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Bitey said:
Looks like yours is gone too Kaz-Ka most likely it was a mistake, let’s not jump to conclusions…Nothing against you Jason but Im pretty sure this isnt a mistake. My admin privliges were revoked not even an hour after the meeting. Hell from what Ive heard, Freezer was on the phone telling somebody to go ahead and kill my privledges as soon as the meeting ended. Honestly I dont give two *edited*s though. I’ve got bigger plans.
Apparently I need to read the Minutes thread I have no idea what went down.
OK, now I get it… Can someone post something about the reasons for this where members of Club Advisors and higher can know what is going on, unless of course it is for personal reasons. I would just like to know the reason behind this, I think this is the first time something like this has ever happened.
Bitey said:
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Bitey said:
Looks like yours is gone too Kaz-Ka most likely it was a mistake, let’s not jump to conclusions…Nothing against you Jason but Im pretty sure this isnt a mistake. My admin privliges were revoked not even an hour after the meeting. Hell from what Ive heard, Freezer was on the phone telling somebody to go ahead and kill my privledges as soon as the meeting ended. Honestly I dont give two *edited*s though. I’ve got bigger plans.
Apparently I need to read the Minutes thread I have no idea what went down.
OK, now I get it… Can someone post something about the reasons for this where members of Club Advisors and higher can know what is going on, unless of course it is for personal reasons. I would just like to know the reason behind this, I think this is the first time something like this has ever happened.
Why keep this secret? Four (Me, Kaz, Alex, and Felix) elected officers were kicked out of power, with no reason given. This seems like something that should be made open.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
Bitey said:
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Bitey said:
Looks like yours is gone too Kaz-Ka most likely it was a mistake, let’s not jump to conclusions…Nothing against you Jason but Im pretty sure this isnt a mistake. My admin privliges were revoked not even an hour after the meeting. Hell from what Ive heard, Freezer was on the phone telling somebody to go ahead and kill my privledges as soon as the meeting ended. Honestly I dont give two *edited*s though. I’ve got bigger plans.
Apparently I need to read the Minutes thread I have no idea what went down.
OK, now I get it… Can someone post something about the reasons for this where members of Club Advisors and higher can know what is going on, unless of course it is for personal reasons. I would just like to know the reason behind this, I think this is the first time something like this has ever happened.
Why keep this secret? Four (Me, Kaz, Alex, and Felix) elected officers were kicked out of power, with no reason given. This seems like something that should be made open.
What position was Alex?
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
Bitey said:
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Bitey said:
Looks like yours is gone too Kaz-Ka most likely it was a mistake, let’s not jump to conclusions…Nothing against you Jason but Im pretty sure this isnt a mistake. My admin privliges were revoked not even an hour after the meeting. Hell from what Ive heard, Freezer was on the phone telling somebody to go ahead and kill my privledges as soon as the meeting ended. Honestly I dont give two *edited*s though. I’ve got bigger plans.
Apparently I need to read the Minutes thread I have no idea what went down.
OK, now I get it… Can someone post something about the reasons for this where members of Club Advisors and higher can know what is going on, unless of course it is for personal reasons. I would just like to know the reason behind this, I think this is the first time something like this has ever happened.
Why keep this secret? Four (Me, Kaz, Alex, and Felix) elected officers were kicked out of power, with no reason given. This seems like something that should be made open.
To prevent unnecessary drama, I would just like to hear from the people that started this in a thread not so public.
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Nothing against you Jason but Im pretty sure this isnt a mistake. My admin privliges were revoked not even an hour after the meeting. Hell from what Ive heard, Freezer was on the phone telling somebody to go ahead and kill my privledges as soon as the meeting ended. Honestly I dont give two *edited*s though. I’ve got bigger plans.
Your powers were revoked to prevent you raging. If you can’t understand that then you truely know nothing about the history of this club or how Josh operates when his puppets lose power.
You didn’t hear Mike talking to someone to disable your access, because it was me that made that phone call. You simply heard Mike talking and assumed that’s what it was. In reality that was me telling him that my vote was for you as a console VP. When Mike called to say you weren’t running for VP is when your powers were cut, because we knew you no longer wished to be apart of this club.
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Wow, and the shady become shadier. What a surprise……
Talk about shady, you were in the process of founding another gaming club while still the president of this one. You twist the truth and say anything you can to steal as many of our execs and members as you can and even discuss ways to steal our money. You have zero right to take the high ground on anything.
MajorMajorMajor said:
What position was Alex?
He’s the new implanted spy for their club, aka console VP. He is to join the ranks of the others who don’t care about this club, want this club to fail, and won’t show up to our LAN to do their job but still expect to be treated like execs until the very day they screw us. It’s like the CIA catching a senator selling defense secrets to terrorists and the senator expecting to keep the security clearances until the day the terrorists attack.
I had to go ask a commuter lounge who he was and what his forums account was because as is typical they never make it apparent who they are or ask for powers when they’re needed. They always assume that people who have no clue who they are will magically know who they are when they’re elected and then blame everyone else when reality takes place.
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Anyone that actually gives a *edited* about gaming and is fed up with this so called “gaming club”, shoot me a message.
Wrong. We lost people who’s loyalty was to you and Josh. We want people to be loyal to the GAMING CLUB, not to any set of executives.
At the meeting we specifically said we wanted you still be an exec because you would make the perfect console VP. You used the defense that you didn’t have the time to do something, well you do for playing games and hanging out in the commuter lounge which is mostly what we wanted in a VP. Every single person that voted to impeach you would have voted for you as a VP. Idk if that changes anything with anyone else but it obviously didn’t with you, you were told that before the exec meeting was over.
MasterP said:
MajorMajorMajor said:
What position was Alex?
He’s the new implanted spy for their club, aka console VP. He is to join the ranks of the others who don’t care about this club, want this club to fail, and won’t show up to our LAN to do their job but still expect to be treated like execs until the very day they screw us. It’s like the CIA catching a senator selling defense secrets to terrorists and the senator expecting to keep the security clearances until the day the terrorists attack.
I had to go ask a commuter lounge who he was and what his forums account was because as is typical they never make it apparent who they are or ask for powers when they’re needed. They always assume that people who have no clue who they are will magically know who they are when they’re elected and then blame everyone else when reality takes place.
You seemed pretty on-the-ball when it comes to power changes, after all, Kaz’s power was cut less than an hour after the meeting.
Why would we need spies? We’re still members of this club.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
You seemed pretty on-the-ball when it comes to power changes, after all, Kaz’s power was cut less than an hour after the meeting.
Why would we need spies? We’re still members of this club.
After the last ragequit exec we prefer to not take any chances. It took about a month to get back what was deleted and even longer for the PC side’s numbers to recover. You wouldn’t know about that though because you weren’t a member last year (literally every member knew about it) and I’m sure Kazka conveniently left that part of our history out while QQ’ing about losing forum access.
If you still want to be a part of this club GREAT! I mean we really don’t want to alienate anyone and will continue to operate in the same direction that we have been for the last 3 years. If you’re a member here solely to recruit members for your other club, THAT we have a problem with. I mean you are an exec in their club after all… and so is our new console VP…
If I joined your group and wanted to be an exec, would you let me? No. Would you question my motives? Yes. Same logic applies to you guys. We don’t know if you’re here to help or hurt and with everything that’s been said the last few days can you really blame us?
MasterP said:
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
You seemed pretty on-the-ball when it comes to power changes, after all, Kaz’s power was cut less than an hour after the meeting.
Why would we need spies? We’re still members of this club.
After the last ragequit exec we prefer to not take any chances. It took about a month to get back what was deleted and even longer for the PC side’s numbers to recover. You wouldn’t know about that though because you weren’t a member last year (literally every member knew about it) and I’m sure Kazka conveniently left that part of our history out while QQ’ing about losing forum access.
If you still want to be a part of this club GREAT! I mean we really don’t want to alienate anyone and will continue to operate in the same direction that we have been for the last 3 years. If you’re a member here solely to recruit members for your other club, THAT we have a problem with. I mean you are an exec in their club after all… and so is our new console VP…
If I joined your group and wanted to be an exec, would you let me? No. Would you question my motives? Yes. Same logic applies to you guys. We don’t know if you’re here to help or hurt and with everything that’s been said the last few days can you really blame us?
You wanting to be an exec in the new club is a horrid analogy for me wanting my powers over here back. I didn’t recieve any notification of my demotion nor have I heard ANY reason why I was demoted. There is nothing in the constitution of either club that says I can’t hold a position in both.
I would understand my demotion if my sole reason for being here was promoting the other club like you said, but I haven’t done anything promoting the other club (NINJA EDIT: on this forum).
As I understand, Felix is in the exact same situation as myself, so reinstate his powers as well.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
You wanting to be an exec in the new club is a horrid analogy for me wanting my powers over here back.
The analogy is directly related. You wouldn’t give me powers on your site if you knew my main focus was promoting this club so why should we do the same with you?
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
I didn’t recieve any notification of my demotion nor have I heard ANY reason why I was demoted.
I’m sure it’ll be posted soon. As for the reason, don’t be obtuse, you know why.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
There is nothing in the constitution of either club that says I can’t hold a position in both.
Oddly enough, that’s true. We’ve never had to deal with a group of people quitting and taking as many members as they could with them and then expecting to still be an exec here…
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
I would understand my demotion if my sole reason for being here was promoting the other club like you said, but I haven’t done anything promoting the other club (NINJA EDIT: on this forum).
As I understand, Felix is in the exact same situation as myself, so reinstate his powers as well.
The club exists outside this forum and you just admitted to promoting the other club IRL. Felix has too. You have stated in the past that the club as it exists IRL on campus is more important than how it exists on the forums so why should we treat the slap in the face as if it were given on the less tender cheek?
MasterP said:
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
You wanting to be an exec in the new club is a horrid analogy for me wanting my powers over here back.
The analogy is directly related. You wouldn’t give me powers on your site if you knew my main focus was promoting this club so why should we do the same with you?
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
I didn’t recieve any notification of my demotion nor have I heard ANY reason why I was demoted.
I’m sure it’ll be posted soon. As for the reason, don’t be obtuse, you know why.
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
There is nothing in the constitution of either club that says I can’t hold a position in both.
Oddly enough, that’s true. We’ve never had to deal with a group of people quitting and taking as many members as they could with them and then expecting to still be an exec here…
FTE Lieutenant Dan said:
I would understand my demotion if my sole reason for being here was promoting the other club like you said, but I haven’t done anything promoting the other club (NINJA EDIT: on this forum).
As I understand, Felix is in the exact same situation as myself, so reinstate his powers as well.
The club exists outside this forum and you just admitted to promoting the other club IRL. Felix has too. You have stated in the past that the club as it exists IRL on campus is more important than how it exists on the forums so why should we treat the slap in the face as if it were given on the less tender cheek?
1) Because I was voted in.
2) As for the reason, I would love to know.
3) I was under the impression I wasn’t an exec anyways, just a CL. And I never quit this club.
4) I would much rather overhaul this club than help start a new one, but a lot of people are making change difficult.
NuRayZ said:
i’m confused.
Don’t worry about it. It’s nothing serious.
Some people got upset that Kazka was impeached by a 75% supermajority and are trying to get as many to leave as they can. When they get bored they troll to find out why their powers were taken after they quit and tried to form a competing club on campus.
Every spring an exec quits and tries to hurt the club on their way out, this is just this year’s occurance of it. It’s really nothing new. Typically they rejoin and everything turns out peachy, hopefully it does this time as well.
Btw Liquid, the execs are discussing how they want to handle you guys at a constitution meeting tomorrow. You very well may get all your access back but at this point it’s back to like I said earlier:
MasterP said:
After the last ragequit exec we prefer to not take any chances.
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Anyone that actually gives a *edited* about gaming and is fed up with this so called “gaming club”, shoot me a message.
Wow now THAT’S a great statement. First I’d like to question the “gives a *edited* about gaming.” You were the Gaming Club President, your sole purpose as the President was to promote the Gaming Club and to draw more people to WCU via the Gaming Club, not to sit and play games while telling others what to do. The Gaming Club isn’t about sitting in the commuter lounge playing BlazBlue all day while a brand new server sits collecting dust in the office of IT that Residential Living bought for us because the President never did anything about it. The Gaming Club’s purpose, message, and overall goal is to attract perspective students to come to WCU whether by advertising through online games or through our featured LAN events. With that the President must always have the Gaming Club’s best intentions in mind and must always be looking for new ways and for the best ways to accomplish these tasks. Now, this is solely my opinion and not the Club’s or anything, but what you did Kazka seemed as though you were just using the Gaming Club as a place to play your games and use the Gaming Club’s name as a way to get things, such as the Grand Room, so that you can play them even more. The new server arrived in December and no one was told about it and nothing was done about it until late February-early March. On top of this, what all have you yourself done to ensure that the servers were up and running and were promoting the club? Do you know how to set up the servers? Have you stepped foot into IRC or even onto one of the servers? I don’t know the full story about us not having a location for the next LAN but in the past our LAN events are supposed to be scheduled a FULL SEMESTER ahead of time, as such was done when Shane and myself did it and as well as Jason, David, and of course Adam. We ensured that we had locations for our LANs MONTHS in advance and nothing could have changed these dates on us.
Now of course you imply you’re going to form a “better gaming club” for those that “give a *edited* about gaming?” When I first heard of those in the commuter lounge they would originally call themselves the Gaming Club, despite there being an actual club. If you’re reverting back to this, good luck to you, but you’ll never be an actual sanctioned club from the school without a purpose and results of completing this purpose.
MasterP said:
FTE Kaz-Ka said:
Anyone that actually gives a *edited* about gaming and is fed up with this so called “gaming club”, shoot me a message.
Wrong. We lost people who’s loyalty was to you and Josh. We want people to be loyal to the GAMING CLUB, not to any set of executives.
At the meeting we specifically said we wanted you still be an exec because you would make the perfect console VP. You used the defense that you didn’t have the time to do something, well you do for playing games and hanging out in the commuter lounge which is mostly what we wanted in a VP. Every single person that voted to impeach you would have voted for you as a VP. Idk if that changes anything with anyone else but it obviously didn’t with you, you were told that before the exec meeting was over.
Woa woa woa, wait a minute. Not enough time but yet you were the PRESIDENT? The President is the most time consuming job of the club, and you already were doing the job of the Console VP already. So you saying no doesn’t make sense except the fact that you were just bitter about being impeached. Going off and saying “I’m making a new club” and running off just sounds like you’re a 5th grader who doesn’t want to take time to cool off.
On the subject of those being removed from having power: Please understand that in the past the club has been ruined by those who are extremely bitter from a previous decision, and with their power abused so and deleted a lot of pertinent information and made the club look like we harbor 12 year old children. I’m sure in time your power will be reinstated and it is nothing that isn’t going to be fixed. If you are looking for access into the other forums, since your powers were removed and thus access, I’m sure we can get Liam or someone else to create a submask group to give access to those without giving power to ruin the club. Please keep a cool head and calm your attitudes, etc as things will be looked over and fixed.
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