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Btw, I just checked and the LED LCD I keep referencing does have “game mode” enabled on the HDMI port I’m using. For whatever reason it enabled it by default when I named it PC
I just checked the wii.. with New Super Mario Bros. Wii. I am noticing the lag but it’s a lot harder to notice. NSMB does require less reaction time than black ops, but you can really notice it when you’re trying to time jumps. I believe it’s about the same. I don’t really know a better game to test with other than guitar hero- but even that game requires calibration on almost all hdtv’s to work properly.
I’ve read different threads that say that Panny’s GT30 models are great for gaming (which is the one i’m looking at). Unfortunately I can’t find anything specifically for the PZ750 but rather the 550 and 950. From what I’ve read the 550 is crap on input lag but the 950 is good.. I’m guessing the 750 took the low road being the in-between model.
The point is Input Lag exists and it varies by model and by manufacturer. So don’t get in a bind like Lemm did- research the tv you are looking to buy with different forums / interwebz to see what the Input Lag is / how good it is for gaming. A lot of people recommend taking your gaming console / setup to the store when you are going to buy it.. Seems like a bit of a hassle to me.
Oh snap, I didn’t realize LG also had multiple models within the same series. Samsung does that and the low and midrange almost always have lesser quality hardware. I haven’t heard of them creating lag like this but if you have a choice, *ALWAYS* buy the high-end.
In this case I guess you fit into the “trying to do alot of processing with slower hardware” category. It’s a shame manufacturers do that but it’s not likely to change anytime soon. Unfortunately…
I’d never thought to take a console into the store but if this becomes much more widespread I can definately see it becoming a popular thing to do.
That being said the tv I was looking at is also the midrange..
Amazon prices
50ST30 Low $1085
50GT30 Med $1394
55VT30 High $2700 (they don’t sell the 50″ but it exists)
It has a lot of good reviews from avsforum and other sites… and confirmation of good gaming..
Maybe I don’t know what to do.
I certainly wouldn’t spend $2700 on a 55″ TV, that’s for sure.
Are you dead set on not getting an LED LCD?
MasterP said:
I certainly wouldn’t spend $2700 on a 55″ TV, that’s for sure.
Are you dead set on not getting an LED LCD?
No, now I just want a good tv… It doesn’t have to be 3d but it has to have a low input lag.
actually I remember when I was looking for a new monitor that the samsung T260hd does seem to have some pretty severe input lag, not unlike what Lemm is talking about. Not sure what causes it but it is a real thing, just never experienced it firsthand I guess.
I should point out that on a game like blackops the issue would compound because you would be battling both the input lag and the internet lag, which is probably why you even noticed this. If you were to play say the campaign it would likely be much less noticeable.
Nickname said:
actually I remember when I was looking for a new monitor that the samsung T260hd does seem to have some pretty severe input lag, not unlike what Lemm is talking about. Not sure what causes it but it is a real thing, just never experienced it firsthand I guess.
I should point out that on a game like blackops the issue would compound because you would be battling both the input lag and the internet lag, which is probably why you even noticed this. If you were to play say the campaign it would likely be much less noticeable.
I agree.. it all adds up just some more than others.
Internet lag appears differently though because with internet lag I can see myself shooting / knifing the other person, but instead I died because the other persons shot registered with the host before mine did. This makes me so mad.. It really keeps me from using a mic a lot because I start ranting. I have to turn the thing off.
Alright… so I bought a new tv from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MME76A
Panasonic 55″ GT30 3D Plasma
I ran break-in slides for the first 100 hours (just for picture) and I finally got to actually watch the tv Saturday night. I setup the custom mode setting for the tv turning off all of the image enhancing effects that I could and the input lag for the tv + my receiver is less than 25ms!
I was actually able to measure it this time since I found a display port to hdmi connector for my laptop and followed the procedure here to test: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1166196
Game mode seems to actually produce more lag than custom. I’m thinking about connecting the PS3 directly to the tv (sans-receiver) but I really think that the receiver could be only adding on 5ms of lag at the most. Plus it would be a huge inconvenience to have to switch the input on the tv and the receiver every time I wanted to play a game. (Still might do it)
Either way.. I’m able to play videogames on a big tv now.. yay me. I’m still getting used to the size of the tv. I think that has affected my playing a decent amount too.
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