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wait..so if terrorists decided to blow a building up with thousands of people, they could run to a mosque and claim safe haven? I call bull*edited*. If we know a group of terrorists are in a place in america, mosque or not, we gonna send SWAT in. If i’m wrong, well then that’s just *edited*ed up.
let’s get real about this. The mosque that is being built won’t house any cells. the leader of the mosque is apparently a good guy. he even has support of parts of the jewish community. go figure:
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/08/05/1377983/group-sues-to-stop-mosque-near.html
granted The Anti-Defamation League opposes the project, but i bet you they would oppose anything islam.
NuRayZ said:
let’s get real about this. The mosque that is being built won’t house any cells. the leader of the mosque is apparently a good guy. he even has support of parts of the jewish community. go figure:
That doesn’t really mean anything though. The Jewish voted for Obama in overwheling numbers and he’s turned out to be the most anti-Israeli president we’ve ever had. Worst is that they still support him in by a large majority.
If we’re attacked by Islamic terrorists, Obama will not send SWAT into a mosque. I promise. He was spent the early (IE most vulnerable) part of his life in a heavily Islamic-based country, he won’t have it in him. It would also look bad in global politics which he cares more about than the American voters.
inb4 you go “wtf masterp you’re a racist and are so off my buddy list” they pull this crap in Europe all the time. It never makes American news because it doesn’t involve us and makes the whole “let’s all forgive, forget, and hold hands” viewpoint look stupid. It’s retarded to know where a terrorist/butcher is hiding and not do anything about it because he’s hiding in a mosque or abandoned school, yet we do that ALL the time. If we’d always done it that way we’d be speaking a lovely mixture of British English, German, and Russian. Possibly even French.
NuRayZ said:
wait..so if terrorists decided to blow a building up with thousands of people, they could run to a mosque and claim safe haven? I call bull*edited*. If we know a group of terrorists are in a place in america, mosque or not, we gonna send SWAT in. If i’m wrong, well then that’s just *edited*ed up.
Well you are wrong but I agree on the bull*edited*. Even if the head of the mosque is ant-extremism, the fact that there’s a mosque there creates slow train wreck. All it takes is a couple of pictures/videos and a different story to screw things up royally. Like what MP said, the news is filtered, and it gets filtered from both sides. We may know the general truth of the story on this side of the hemisphere but it’s going to be very different on the other side.
“You can’t teach a hammer to love nails. That dog don’t hunt.”
All in all, I know the ppl didn’t mean trouble like this but they should have never brought the idea up. It’s like ur friend warns u not to ask about his gf’s busted nose but the second you meet, your gf asks about the nose.
look i understand that it’s *edited*ed up, but so is a strip club next to a catholic school. *edited* happens, but i bet that’s the LAST mosque in the world to harbor terrorists. To hold any other notion, to say we wouldn’t stop a terrorist who hides in a mosque IN the US is simply stupid. Believe it or not there are things that even Obama can’t control and if a guy kills a 100 people, and runs to a church, mosque, or whatever, the local police would not wait to see if the president gives them the okay to get the guy. especially if it would be all over the news, 911 calls ringing all over, and the way information is instantly uploaded and shared, there is no way Obama could even think about saying “uhm no we can’t go in there.” that notion is bull*edited*, just saying. inb4 wild claims of socialist muslim nazi kenyan devil should be left at home.
Well I take it that you’re saying obama won’t be able to find out about what’s happening and have time to step in before everything’s over. Obviously obama or his white house staff members might not get wind of the exact happenings at that very moment, but I’m sure they’ve already made eap’s about this exact situation. If they can quietly extract the cells from the mosque with the news not knowing anything about it then they’ll definitely go for that. If the media’s gotten wind already then it’s a different ball game. Even the chief of the NYPD would know how to deal with this kind of situation before it happens. However, politics is what gets in the way of things, and yes, that runs through the EMS as well. But I do still see your point. There could be some idiot jack-bauer-wannabe officer who happens to be at the right place at the wrong time. However, even with a partner, they’re not going to storm any building if they know there are armed extremists inside (even if it’s just one). Training’s going to kick in, they’re going to call for backup, seal off the area, and sit tight. Remember we’re talking about New York City. It’s a big city, with big problems already so they’re goddamned trained for big situations already. With that call happening, the higher ups are going to be informed immediately of the situation and orders will be shot back. Basically, a standoff will occur if we’re lucky and no secondary attacks were prepared (which usually happens).
As for the friendly mosque-
Anti-extremist mosque or not, the cells won’t even need permission to run into that establishment. If they got guns, then they can do whatever the f*ck they want. Heck, if a guy runs at you in a store with a broken bottle, you’re going to take off your pants a slap your tally wacker if he demands it.
Back to the standoff-
A standoff’s freakin good for us but only if we play it right. If we can safely arrest the cell(s) without going into the building (negotiations) then that’ll be really hard for the other side of this world to twist around the news and support will be lost for the terrorist group (hint: that’s how you beat them- take away their finance and support).
As for churches-
churches are different however extra precaution are kept in mind in comparison to an office building. Never assume churches & mosques are the same.
NuRayZ said:
i bet that’s the LAST mosque in the world to harbor terrorists. To hold any other notion, to say we wouldn’t stop a terrorist who hides in a mosque IN the US is simply stupid. Believe it or not there are things that even Obama can’t control and if a guy kills a 100 people, and runs to a church, mosque, or whatever, the local police would not wait to see if the president gives them the okay to get the guy. especially if it would be all over the news, 911 calls ringing all over, and the way information is instantly uploaded and shared, there is no way Obama could even think about saying “uhm no we can’t go in there.” that notion is bull*edited*, just saying.
inb4 you puke your guts from coolaid overdose
Oh and btw. I never said we can’t stop them in the mosque. We just can’t do it using any force.
In the game of terrorists, I win so don’t even bother lulz.
MasterP said:
inb4 you puke your guts from coolaid overdose
lol almost. It was hawaiian night at Frankenstein’s Bar. 3 dollar you call its. I’m highly intoxicated keke
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