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NuRayZ said:
hilarious:
YOU MOTHER FUDGING *edited*
i’m thinking WVU all the way
but i hate how duke plays and i think that it’s gonna be tough for the mountaniers
unrelated, i was chiefing khergit on mount and blade, and man, i hate doods that siege your *edited*, but run away everytime you get near, it’s like pick one man, either attack my castle while i’m chilling there or *edited* off at least for a while
Ephraim said:
should have made the complaint dpt link to kuros page
I noticed no one posted anything about the GTX 480. It’s 15-30% faster than the 5870 in most games and isn’t outrageously priced.
It is however insanely hot, with load temperatures of 98C.
I do believe I called this card. 100%. Nickname can vouch.
the fack is a GTx480
IF I CANT EAT IT I DONT CARE
/havent have lunch yet
This upcoming 2 weeks are hell for me, and I shall list the ways:
Outline for one of undergrad thesis is due tuesday
A paper for another class due tuesday.
Thursday I have a meeting with the Oral History Initiative I’m apart of. (YAY FOR DEALING WITH MIDDLE SCHOOLERS)
Thursday I also have an exam.
Friday my trascript for an interveiw I performed is due. I expect another 20 hours of work on it.
Friday night have have to help cook chicken for some international street fair on saturday (gfg exec board)
Saturday from 10-5:30 I have to man this *edited*ing booth for CSO at the fair.
Sat night PARTYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Sunday write a paper for philosophy gag
Tuesday turn in first draft of research paper
Wednesday another Exam
Thursday is Haiti Day and I get to meet the Haitian ambassador
Thursday night is my presentation for the Oral History Initiative and i have to give a 30 minutes speech.
Friday is the Big Event, spend from 8am-2pm cleaning yards.
Saturday *edited*ing DONE
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
rainefardreamer said:
my next two weeks
drinking
d2
applying for jobs
working as lifeguard
hitting on chicks
trade you?
MasterP said:
I noticed no one posted anything about the GTX 480. It’s 15-30% faster than the 5870 in most games and isn’t outrageously priced.
It is however insanely hot, with load temperatures of 98C.
I do believe I called this card. 100%. Nickname can vouch.
being 6 months late and they only get 15%? and the card is still $500? and consumes that much power and that much heat?
sounds like more of a fail than a win to me.
Nickname said:
MasterP said:
I noticed no one posted anything about the GTX 480. It’s 15-30% faster than the 5870 in most games and isn’t outrageously priced.
It is however insanely hot, with load temperatures of 98C.
I do believe I called this card. 100%. Nickname can vouch.
being 6 months late and they only get 15%? and the card is still $500? and consumes that much power and that much heat?
sounds like more of a fail than a win to me.
Of course, I forgot. Outperforming the competition by a sizable margin means you fail, especially when you’re in the same price range as that under-performing competitor card.
Btw, the FTC is suing Intel over their decision to lock Nvidia out of the chipset market.
MasterP said:
Of course, I forgot. Outperforming the competition by a sizable margin means you fail, especially when you’re in the same price range as that under-performing competitor card.
Btw, the FTC is suing Intel over their decision to lock Nvidia out of the chipset market.
so charging 25% more for 10-15% performance is a good return on investment? Also please tell me what game(s) the radeon 5870 can’t play maxed out at 1920×1200. I mean it doesnt do you any good getting 10% better performance if you are talking about 100 vs 110 fps.
Actually the gtx 470 is a better deal as its priced perfect considering its performance, though its not as power-efficient as the radeon offerings.
25% more? Have you even looked at how much the 5870s from real manufacturers cost? It’s $50 more, $75 at most, which is 11-17%, for 15-30% greater performance. Even at your lowball estimate of 10-15% higher performance it’s comparably priced.
Oh and there are games the 5970 and SLI/CF configs of the 480/5870 can’t get 60fps on. So yeah, when it comes to the newer games that 15-30% makes a difference. Especially if you’re buying with more than 1 year of intended usage.
Also worth noting, the big gain for the GTX 480 was in the minimum FPS for all the tests, which at times was twice that of the 5870.
MasterP said:
25% more? Have you even looked at how much the 5870s from real manufacturers cost? It’s $50 more, $75 at most, which is 11-17%, for 15-30% greater performance. Even at your lowball estimate of 10-15% higher performance it’s comparably priced.
Oh and there are games the 5970 and SLI/CF configs of the 480/5870 can’t get 60fps on. So yeah, when it comes to the newer games that 15-30% makes a difference. Especially if you’re buying with more than 1 year of intended usage.
Also worth noting, the big gain for the GTX 480 was in the minimum FPS for all the tests, which at times was twice that of the 5870.
the 5870 1gb cards run $400-425. Your geforce cards arent even shipping, when they do ship the prices will be $500-550+.
Please tell me what game the gtx 480 can play that the radeon 5870 can’t.
also as to my “lowball estimate”, here are some quotes:
Techspot review said:
On average when Nvidia’s new flagship managed to outperform the Radeon HD 5870 it was around 16% faster
anandtech review said:
The GTX 480 is between 10 and 15% faster than the Radeon 5870 depending on the resolution,
hothardware review said:
Generally speaking, versus the single-GPU powered Radeon HD 5870, the GeForce GTX 480 is on average roughly 5% – 10% faster, give or take a few percentage points depending on the test
I mean seriously you aren’t disappointed by these new cards? After a 6 month wait I expected more than something that was slightly faster and way too hot. This is akin to intel releasing a 5ghz p4 instead of the core2 series.
I think they should just build one big card that when hooked up to a monitor plays games by itself…
It should also take voice commands.. mice are a thing of the past. “Head-shot Nickname” should be an acceptable command.
But every command should not be executed until the famous line from Star Trek: TNG is spoken…. “ENGAGE!”..
“Make it so” should also be accepted.
Go look at the Anandtech individual game comparisons. They’re sad, and far from “10-15%”.
And if the throw down is games it can play that the 5870 can’t, my 3 yeard old 8800GTX could play almost every single game on the same resolution with tolerable framerates as both cards.
To answer your question, no I’m not disappointed. I was expecting it to perform equal to or less than the 5870 and cost $700. You were too. Why you’re so bent out of shape about it being a little bit faster for a little bit more money is puzzling. Maybe if Nvidia had the alternate cashflow of a CPU market and could bank on money from dozens of lawsuits against Intel in every major court on the planet they’d have released a card that was this much faster and then sold it below production cost, like ATI does.
MasterP said:
Go look at the Anandtech individual game comparisons. They’re sad, and far from “10-15%”.
And if the throw down is games it can play that the 5870 can’t, my 3 yeard old 8800GTX could play almost every single game on the same resolution with tolerable framerates as both cards.
To answer your question, no I’m not disappointed. I was expecting it to perform equal to or less than the 5870 and cost $700. You were too. Why you’re so bent out of shape about it being a little bit faster for a little bit more money is puzzling. Maybe if Nvidia had the alternate cashflow of a CPU market and could bank on money from dozens of lawsuits against Intel in every major court on the planet they’d have released a card that was this much faster and then sold it below production cost, like ATI does.
according to anandtech, at 1920×1200, the gtx 480 is:
12.5% faster in crysis warhead
27.9% faster in battleforge
32.3% faster in HAWX (though both were over 100 fps already)
6.8% SLOWER in Left 4 Dead (though bother were over 100 fps already)
26.1% SLOWER in Battlefield Bad Company 2
11.4% faster in stalker
22.9% faster in Dirt 2
5.9% faster in Mass Effect 2
3.8% faster in Wolfenstein
which means ON AVERAGE its 9.3% faster. But for that 9.3% it costs you an extra 100 watts power consumption under load. I mean hell the gtx 470 which is SLOWER than the 5870 still uses an extra 30W.
Yes I am happy it came in under $500 (though I will wait until they are actually available to see if that is still the case) but come on they had plenty of time they should have had something better than this. I mean the price/performance wouldnt bother me if the thing was at least on par with AMD as far as heat and power efficiency go.
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MasterP said:
I noticed no one posted anything about the GTX 480.
Nobody posted anything because it is neither an impressive card nor is it legendary failure. Its rather uninteresting TBH, which is not usually a good sign for a flagship card.
Nickname said:
Yes I am happy it came in under $500 (though I will wait until they are actually available to see if that is still the case) but come on they had plenty of time they should have had something better than this. I mean the price/performance wouldnt bother me if the thing was at least on par with AMD as far as heat and power efficiency go.
Yes they should have done better given the time, die size, and raw power it has. I mean the GPU is a monster powerhouse but it’s almost like it’s having to do hardware emulation to play video games. I predict too many foreign designers on the team and not enough Americans. Based on the racial breakdown I saw in NCSU’s microarchitecture and memory systems programs I’d say it’s probably 99% indian/chinese and 1% American. Those guys can run circles around us in math but when it comes to being inventive and thinking outside the box they don’t have a clue.
They need to get their construction process up to 100% so they don’t have to cut off processing units like they do now, fully utilize their memory bus, fix the fan speed settings, and quit trying to leap ahead of ATI in areas that don’t matter.
Lemm said:
I think they should just build one big card that when hooked up to a monitor plays games by itself…
It should also take voice commands.. mice are a thing of the past. “Head-shot Nickname” should be an acceptable command.
But every command should not be executed until the famous line from Star Trek: TNG is spoken…. “ENGAGE!”..
“Make it so” should also be accepted.
I demand recognition for my ingenuity! #1, Make it so.
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