MasterP said:
Whoa guys, let’s hold up a second. They were convicted by a grand jury. Anyone who keeps up with things knows that you can get a grand jury to indict anyone for anything and once you’re brought in for questioning by the jury they can question you for as long as they want with no breaks, no legal counsel, and no chance to prepare a defense. I mean let’s face it, one of the charges is carrying or possessing a firearm during the crime they were planning, last I checked you had to actually commit the crime before being charged with it. Charging someone with PLANNING to use a firearm is one thing, charging them as though they’ve already used it is entirely illegal. I seem to remember a movie about this sort of thing…
I spent right at 30 seconds glancing over that article and found a charge that’s patently unconstitutional so how about we wait for some real court proceedings before we toss these guys under the buss? If it completely disappears in a few days that’s your que that this was all media hype.
Btw, any takers on how long before a lib uses this as a reason for more gun control?
I think the “charges is carrying or possessing a firearm during the crime they were planning” part is related to conspiracy. They definitely had their motive which was easily displayed on their website, and they had traces of planning the operation via emails. I think finding a weapon on them that they were planning on using is a legitimate crime, especially when it was well documented, because they were caught conspiring an attack(<– this is the illegal part). The weapon thing is meant for a double whammy/safety. This however, is one of those iffy-laws that can be twisted around and used inappropriately but can be good when trying to put somebody away for a long time or they’ve somehow managed to get away with other crimes. A loose example can be when the feds can’t get enough evidence of violent crimes on mafias so they turn to the books.
Yeap, some group’s going to use this as support for gun control for sure.