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October 17, 2010 at 2:17 pm #9053
Master Chantzy ‘.’
SpectatorIP? I can’t find it anywhere.
October 17, 2010 at 2:53 pm #106135adam37
Spectatorgaming.wcu.edu:27025 or 152.30.192.240:27025 — both go to the same place
October 17, 2010 at 3:23 pm #106136MasterP
SpectatorIt’s broke ATM.
…again
October 17, 2010 at 3:30 pm #106137Master Chantzy ‘.’
SpectatorMasterP said:
It’s broke ATM.
…again
October 18, 2010 at 6:39 am #106165Lemm
Spectatoryeah go figure
October 18, 2010 at 4:38 pm #106177Phonetically Phamous (dice
Spectatorwonder how long its going to take the pc vp to read this.
i predict another 2 weeks
October 18, 2010 at 6:58 pm #106188MasterP
SpectatorI’m not sure he’d be able to fix it either. Liam will probably have to apply his special touch to get it working again.
October 18, 2010 at 7:10 pm #106191Pink Monkey #13
Spectatoralso, i tried to connect to the 24/7 d2 server the other day, to no avail. just thought i’d letcha know
October 18, 2010 at 7:20 pm #106194MasterP
SpectatorThe 24/7 *should* be up. If not msg me on steam.
December 10, 2010 at 1:09 am #107031Pink Monkey #13
Spectatorthe 24/7 server is out of date again…just so you know
December 14, 2010 at 7:47 am #107085Nic Meloney
Spectatorjust reinstalled cs:s…re-addicted…noob again…need old wcu friends to play with…anyone around?
chantz? hello?
December 14, 2010 at 9:23 am #107086Lemm
SpectatorAs soon as I get settled in a new apartment with some decent internet I’ll prolly hop on and see if I can get re-addicted.. but I really haven’t had any time to play for a while..
December 14, 2010 at 9:29 am #107087Pink Monkey #13
Spectatoryea, i recently became re-addicted…just in time for finals…whoops.
December 14, 2010 at 11:07 am #107088Lemm
SpectatorYeah, I always used to do that too..
“LOL CAN’T STUDY… WARWAGER IS ON CSS SERVER AND I NEED TO GET MY KDEATH UP”
December 18, 2010 at 12:44 am #107123Nic Meloney
Spectatorso, no one plays? no servers active? im dyin here, i miss you all! well, some of you…
December 19, 2010 at 1:44 pm #107126melatonin
SpectatorNic Meloney said:
so, no one plays? no servers active? im dyin here, i miss you all! well, some of you…
CS:S has lost a lot of popularity on campus, it seems SC2 and LoL have taken over as the popular multiplayer PC games on campus.
December 19, 2010 at 7:31 pm #107129MasterP
SpectatorSmugleaf said:
CS:S has lost a lot of popularity on campus
It probably doesn’t help that they’re over a month out of date and the PC VP doesn’t care enough to have even appointed a CL to run them.
On that note, can we get someone who cares to run for the position next time? I’m sure felix cares about minecraft but considering he can’t even get that running on the server I’m not really sure how he plans to sell himself as being experienced or driven enough for the job. Only 1 of WCU’s 30 game servers are up-to-date and running. 31 if you count the minecraft. Even you have to admit that is unacceptable.
Hell the only reason that one server is running is because it’s the alumni-run TF2 server. It’s full 24/7 btw.
December 19, 2010 at 8:36 pm #107132melatonin
SpectatorMasterP said:
Smugleaf said:
CS:S has lost a lot of popularity on campus
It probably doesn’t help that they’re over a month out of date and the PC VP doesn’t care enough to have even appointed a CL to run them.
On that note, can we get someone who cares to run for the position next time? I’m sure felix cares about minecraft but considering he can’t even get that running on the server I’m not really sure how he plans to sell himself as being experienced or driven enough for the job. Only 1 of WCU’s 30 game servers are up-to-date and running. 31 if you count the minecraft. Even you have to admit that is unacceptable.
Hell the only reason that one server is running is because it’s the alumni-run TF2 server. It’s full 24/7 btw.
Even before Felix was VP, it wasn’t popular.
Also, the minecraft server is fine.
December 19, 2010 at 9:37 pm #107133MasterP
SpectatorSmugleaf said:
Even before Felix was VP, it wasn’t popular.
Also, the minecraft server is fine.
Before Felix it was at least up and had a handful of regulars. In fact, it was actually picking up steam until felix took over and left it to deteriorate. <_>
FPS servers will not populate themselves, they need CLs to maintain and populate them. Since Felix didn’t appoint any CLs, guess what happened. Valve pushed out an update, no one updated the CS or CSS servers for 2+ weeks, and when they were finally updated everyone who was playing there had already moved on. That’s gameservers 101, it happens every time and is the fastest way to kill a server.
Also, just as an FYI, the minecraft is not up. I just checked. What you’re playing on is being run from a dorm room because felix couldn’t figure out how to get it to run on Atari. Instead of googling to find the solution he just assumed it was a problem he couldn’t fix and gave up. Just like all the other servers that are down, the problem is extremely simple to fix. You just have to care enough, or know enough, to fix it.
But hey, don’t take my word for it. Go ask felix. When he tells you the problem you’ll probably facepalm at how simple it is.
Back to CSS:
The server is outdated and by now probably broken. Since no CL was appointed, you’ll need to contact the PC VP to get it fixed. I wish you the best of luck with that, he doesn’t check the forums anymore.
December 19, 2010 at 11:46 pm #107134melatonin
SpectatorMasterP said:
Smugleaf said:
Even before Felix was VP, it wasn’t popular.
Also, the minecraft server is fine.
Before Felix it was at least up and had a handful of regulars. In fact, it was actually picking up steam until felix took over and left it to deteriorate. <_>
FPS servers will not populate themselves, they need CLs to maintain and populate them. Since Felix didn’t appoint any CLs, guess what happened. Valve pushed out an update, no one updated the CS or CSS servers for 2+ weeks, and when they were finally updated everyone who was playing there had already moved on. That’s gameservers 101, it happens every time and is the fastest way to kill a server.
Also, just as an FYI, the minecraft is not up. I just checked. What you’re playing on is being run from a dorm room because felix couldn’t figure out how to get it to run on Atari. Instead of googling to find the solution he just assumed it was a problem he couldn’t fix and gave up. Just like all the other servers that are down, the problem is extremely simple to fix. You just have to care enough, or know enough, to fix it.
But hey, don’t take my word for it. Go ask felix. When he tells you the problem you’ll probably facepalm at how simple it is.
Back to CSS:
The server is outdated and by now probably broken. Since no CL was appointed, you’ll need to contact the PC VP to get it fixed. I wish you the best of luck with that, he doesn’t check the forums anymore.
Yes, because CS:S had huge turnouts at most of the LANs the year before he took office. /rolleyes
I am aware it’s run on his computer, and frankly, that’s fine by me. As long as I have a reliable server with friendly people on it, I wouldn’t care if it’s hosted in North Korea.
December 20, 2010 at 2:22 am #107135MasterP
SpectatorSmugleaf said:
Yes, because CS:S had huge turnouts at most of the LANs the year before he took office. /rolleyes
You don’t understand. Hopefully you will some day.
Smugleaf said:
I am aware it’s run on his computer, and frankly, that’s fine by me. As long as I have a reliable server with friendly people on it, I wouldn’t care if it’s hosted in North Korea.
You’ve obviously never played on a “reliable” server in NK. If you had you’ve narrowed down your expectations more.
The point of a server being on Atari isn’t that it’s simply “up”. There’s much more too it than that. Do you intend to play on our server over the Christmas or summer breaks? I hope not, felix’s computer won’t be on campus. Even if it is, most UNC schools are cutting off power to the dorms for the winter break. The point of having Atari is that we have a unified presence online that doesn’t change based on who’s in office or what time of the year it is. All our servers are on the same IP and thus easy to find. They’re all on the same machine and thus easy to manage. They’re all on the same subnet, unfirewalled, unmonitored and unfiltered by ITS, thus better to play on. Atari is 1 hop from the main connection, Reynolds is 7 hops. Atari has a backup diesel generator, Reynolds does not. We have a $5,000 server sitting on a unmetered private gigabit connection, essentially a $13,000/month connection, and you’re fine with using a measly quad-core, or less, sharing a gigabit connection with 250 other people?
I think I’m starting to see why you guys never get along with alumni. Our expectations and desires are in a totally different league than what you’re playing in.
December 20, 2010 at 7:13 am #107136Lemm
SpectatorYeah, it actually takes a lot to configure source servers well. Both Liam and I have spent a lot of time writing WCU Specific plug-ins that you won’t find anywhere else. The real problem with the CS:S server is that almost all the regulars started playing newer games and we weren’t getting any new people to join the server.
It’d be nice if it was actually mentioned that we had a CS:S server at the meetings.. or hell even a STUDENT CL. I’ve been saying I’d rather have that for a long time.. there needs to be someone with a vested interest in the server that actually goes to WCU. I personally put a lot of my time and effort into that server and so has Master P and Liam and a number of other people over the years. We all have lives now.. we don’t have time to fix your server and deal with your whining, *edited*ing, and fear that we will somehow have control over the WCU Gaming Club. A game server NEEDS a lot of work put into it.. not just in th configuration, but in the promoting and populating. You can’t just install it and turn it on (Unless it’s L4D – they use random servers).
I’ve the server at it’s peak and now at it’s lowest point. I’ve seen stat *edited*s (and been one) and people who play because there was an awesome community of regulars.
The truth is.. if you were never a regular of the CS:S Server you could not possibly understand how great it was or how great of a community it had. I would say the CS:S and CS servers are solely responsible for a large percentage of members to these forums.. which brings attention to WCU (LIKE THE CLUB WAS INTENDED TO DO). Now, I challenge you to name one thing that has been done since that has even come close to achieving that. You can’t say that about the LANs.. because you don’t encourage ANY people outside the club to come.
December 20, 2010 at 12:06 pm #107142lawlrence
SpectatorIs CS:S still played any at LANs? I want to come to the next one for some sc2 and hopefully CS:S freeplay. =]
December 21, 2010 at 1:27 am #107147MasterP
Spectatorlawlrence said:
Is CS:S still played any at LANs?
No. Students vote it in but never play it.
April 4, 2011 at 9:16 am #108307Pink Monkey #13
SpectatorCS:S servers are out of date again. Just thought I’d let you guys know.
April 4, 2011 at 3:12 pm #108312Lemm
SpectatorAnyone know if a student would be interested in running the CS:S Servers…
I’d love to start playing again.. but I don’t have near the time to organize a CSS community / maintain the servers. I could help out with plugins though.
April 8, 2011 at 6:18 pm #108359Dustin Faulkner
MemberLemm said:
Anyone know if a student would be interested in running the CS:S Servers…
I’d love to start playing again.. but I don’t have near the time to organize a CSS community / maintain the servers. I could help out with plugins though.
I think we should have 2 up at all times, tell me how and I will keep them up.
May 3, 2011 at 1:21 pm #108539Lemm
SpectatorAll you really need is firedaemon access. The servers have to be updated and restarted periodically. It has been a while since I have played, but I really don’t think you need to do much more than that.
May 8, 2011 at 4:45 pm #108591Falcon
SpectatorJust dropping in right quick and saw this. 2 thoughts and I’ll be back out in the wilderness another several months.
1 – keeping servers up-to-date wasn’t as big a deal when I was around, in what, 2007-2008? maybe that’s become bigger with the new steam update demands, if you can’t access a “old” server with a “new” client. Sounds unfortunate.
2 – yeah you’re going to need some admin staff to keep the server chugging. I had to stay into it at least once every couple of days to gauge the server satisfaction and see any tweaks that might help (including the surprisingly successful termination of map voting back then). However, it also makes a big difference having server regulars. My pool of players was admins (CL = me, and whatever I called my priviledged peoples with admin rights and toys), WCU students, and the public community. The admins were pretty reliable, the public were my #2 group for keeping the server populated (students take off for class, but the dedicated public did great keeping us above just a bot scrimmage), and students were the #3 crowd. However, I’d say on average there was a fair tie between WCU students and the public number wise, with the admins being only a handful. Measure out the current server that way (maybe break it up into daytime and evening “shifts”), and see if you can get some regular attendees there. Take these measurements, because you may have to tweak the server to tailor it to those crowds to keep them coming back. Having regulars made all the difference in keeping the WCU server popular and well-appreciated back then. That point precisely is where your admins come in. You need them to pop the server and develop an admin staff, and to make sure to keep that core group of people happy so they stay there
However, that should just be a lesson for the future, y’all are shifting into summer gear and will be so-so for a while.May 8, 2011 at 10:06 pm #108594MasterP
SpectatorThe problem isn’t clients or tools, it’s the lack of CLs and the unwillingness to appoint any.
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