Where is the WCU server?

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  • #9053

    IP? I can’t find it anywhere.

    #106135
    adam37
    Spectator

    gaming.wcu.edu:27025 or 152.30.192.240:27025 — both go to the same place

    #106136
    MasterP
    Spectator

    It’s broke ATM.

     

    …again

    #106137

    MasterP said:

    It’s broke ATM.

     

    …again

    :)

    #106165
    Lemm
    Spectator

    yeah go figure

    #106177

    wonder how long its going to take the pc vp to read this.

     

    i predict another 2 weeks

    #106188
    MasterP
    Spectator

    I’m not sure he’d be able to fix it either. Liam will probably have to apply his special touch to get it working again.

    #106191
    Pink Monkey #13
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    also, i tried to connect to the 24/7 d2 server the other day, to no avail. just thought i’d letcha know

    #106194
    MasterP
    Spectator

    The 24/7 *should* be up. If not msg me on steam.

    #107031
    Pink Monkey #13
    Spectator

    the 24/7 server is out of date again…just so you know

    #107085
    Nic Meloney
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    just reinstalled cs:s…re-addicted…noob again…need old wcu friends to play with…anyone around?

     

    chantz? hello?

    #107086
    Lemm
    Spectator

    As soon as I get settled in a new apartment with some decent internet I’ll prolly hop on and see if I can get re-addicted.. but I really haven’t had any time to play for a while..

    #107087
    Pink Monkey #13
    Spectator

    yea, i recently became re-addicted…just in time for finals…whoops.

    #107088
    Lemm
    Spectator

    Yeah, I always used to do that too..

     

    “LOL CAN’T STUDY… WARWAGER IS ON CSS SERVER AND I NEED TO GET MY KDEATH UP”

    #107123
    Nic Meloney
    Spectator

    so, no one plays? no servers active? im dyin here, i miss you all! well, some of you…

    #107126
    melatonin
    Spectator

    Nic Meloney said:

    so, no one plays? no servers active? im dyin here, i miss you all! well, some of you…

    CS:S has lost a lot of popularity on campus, it seems SC2 and LoL have taken over as the popular multiplayer PC games on campus.

    #107129
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Smugleaf said:

    CS:S has lost a lot of popularity on campus

    It probably doesn’t help that they’re over a month out of date and the PC VP doesn’t care enough to have even appointed a CL to run them.

     

    On that note, can we get someone who cares to run for the position next time? I’m sure felix cares about minecraft but considering he can’t even get that running on the server I’m not really sure how he plans to sell himself as being experienced or driven enough for the job. Only 1 of WCU’s 30 game servers are up-to-date and running. 31 if you count the minecraft. Even you have to admit that is unacceptable.

     

    Hell the only reason that one server is running is because it’s the alumni-run TF2 server. It’s full 24/7 btw.

    #107132
    melatonin
    Spectator

    MasterP said:

    Smugleaf said:

    CS:S has lost a lot of popularity on campus

    It probably doesn’t help that they’re over a month out of date and the PC VP doesn’t care enough to have even appointed a CL to run them.

     

    On that note, can we get someone who cares to run for the position next time? I’m sure felix cares about minecraft but considering he can’t even get that running on the server I’m not really sure how he plans to sell himself as being experienced or driven enough for the job. Only 1 of WCU’s 30 game servers are up-to-date and running. 31 if you count the minecraft. Even you have to admit that is unacceptable.

     

    Hell the only reason that one server is running is because it’s the alumni-run TF2 server. It’s full 24/7 btw.

    Even before Felix was VP, it wasn’t popular.

     

    Also, the minecraft server is fine.

    #107133
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Smugleaf said:

    Even before Felix was VP, it wasn’t popular.

     

    Also, the minecraft server is fine.

    Before Felix it was at least up and had a handful of regulars. In fact, it was actually picking up steam until felix took over and left it to deteriorate. <_>

     

    FPS servers will not populate themselves, they need CLs to maintain and populate them. Since Felix didn’t appoint any CLs, guess what happened. Valve pushed out an update, no one updated the CS or CSS servers for 2+ weeks, and when they were finally updated everyone who was playing there had already moved on. That’s gameservers 101, it happens every time and is the fastest way to kill a server.

     

    Also, just as an FYI, the minecraft is not up. I just checked. What you’re playing on is being run from a dorm room because felix couldn’t figure out how to get it to run on Atari. Instead of googling to find the solution he just assumed it was a problem he couldn’t fix and gave up. Just like all the other servers that are down, the problem is extremely simple to fix. You just have to care enough, or know enough, to fix it.

     

    But hey, don’t take my word for it. Go ask felix. When he tells you the problem you’ll probably facepalm at how simple it is.

     

     

    Back to CSS:

    The server is outdated and by now probably broken. Since no CL was appointed, you’ll need to contact the PC VP to get it fixed. I wish you the best of luck with that, he doesn’t check the forums anymore.

    #107134
    melatonin
    Spectator

    MasterP said:

    Smugleaf said:

    Even before Felix was VP, it wasn’t popular.

     

    Also, the minecraft server is fine.

    Before Felix it was at least up and had a handful of regulars. In fact, it was actually picking up steam until felix took over and left it to deteriorate. <_>

     

    FPS servers will not populate themselves, they need CLs to maintain and populate them. Since Felix didn’t appoint any CLs, guess what happened. Valve pushed out an update, no one updated the CS or CSS servers for 2+ weeks, and when they were finally updated everyone who was playing there had already moved on. That’s gameservers 101, it happens every time and is the fastest way to kill a server.

     

    Also, just as an FYI, the minecraft is not up. I just checked. What you’re playing on is being run from a dorm room because felix couldn’t figure out how to get it to run on Atari. Instead of googling to find the solution he just assumed it was a problem he couldn’t fix and gave up. Just like all the other servers that are down, the problem is extremely simple to fix. You just have to care enough, or know enough, to fix it.

     

    But hey, don’t take my word for it. Go ask felix. When he tells you the problem you’ll probably facepalm at how simple it is.

     

     

    Back to CSS:

    The server is outdated and by now probably broken. Since no CL was appointed, you’ll need to contact the PC VP to get it fixed. I wish you the best of luck with that, he doesn’t check the forums anymore.

    Yes, because CS:S had huge turnouts at most of the LANs the year before he took office. /rolleyes

     

    I am aware it’s run on his computer, and frankly, that’s fine by me. As long as I have a reliable server with friendly people on it, I wouldn’t care if it’s hosted in North Korea.

    #107135
    MasterP
    Spectator

    Smugleaf said:

    Yes, because CS:S had huge turnouts at most of the LANs the year before he took office. /rolleyes

    You don’t understand. Hopefully you will some day.

     

    Smugleaf said:

    I am aware it’s run on his computer, and frankly, that’s fine by me. As long as I have a reliable server with friendly people on it, I wouldn’t care if it’s hosted in North Korea.

    You’ve obviously never played on a “reliable” server in NK. If you had you’ve narrowed down your expectations more. :)

     

    The point of a server being on Atari isn’t that it’s simply “up”. There’s much more too it than that. Do you intend to play on our server over the Christmas or summer breaks? I hope not, felix’s computer won’t be on campus. Even if it is, most UNC schools are cutting off power to the dorms for the winter break. The point of having Atari is that we have a unified presence online that doesn’t change based on who’s in office or what time of the year it is. All our servers are on the same IP and thus easy to find. They’re all on the same machine and thus easy to manage. They’re all on the same subnet, unfirewalled, unmonitored and unfiltered by ITS, thus better to play on. Atari is 1 hop from the main connection, Reynolds is 7 hops. Atari has a backup diesel generator, Reynolds does not. We have a $5,000 server sitting on a unmetered private gigabit connection, essentially a $13,000/month connection, and you’re fine with using a measly quad-core, or less, sharing a gigabit connection with 250 other people?

     

    I think I’m starting to see why you guys never get along with alumni. Our expectations and desires are in a totally different league than what you’re playing in.

    #107136
    Lemm
    Spectator

    Yeah, it actually takes a lot to configure source servers well. Both Liam and I have spent a lot of time writing WCU Specific plug-ins that you won’t find anywhere else. The real problem with the CS:S server is that almost all the regulars started playing newer games and we weren’t getting any new people to join the server.

     

    It’d be nice if it was actually mentioned that we had a CS:S server at the meetings.. or hell even a STUDENT CL. I’ve been saying I’d rather have that for a long time.. there needs to be someone with a vested interest in the server that actually goes to WCU. I personally put a lot of my time and effort into that server and so has Master P and Liam and a number of other people over the years. We all have lives now.. we don’t have time to fix your server and deal with your whining, *edited*ing, and fear that we will somehow have control over the WCU Gaming Club. A game server NEEDS a lot of work put into it.. not just in th configuration, but in the promoting and populating. You can’t just install it and turn it on (Unless it’s L4D – they use random servers).

     

    I’ve the server at it’s peak and now at it’s lowest point. I’ve seen stat *edited*s (and been one) and people who play because there was an awesome community of regulars.

     

    The truth is.. if you were never a regular of the CS:S Server you could not possibly understand how great it was or how great of a community it had. I would say the CS:S and CS servers are solely responsible for a large percentage of members to these forums.. which brings attention to WCU (LIKE THE CLUB WAS INTENDED TO DO). Now, I challenge you to name one thing that has been done since that has even come close to achieving that. You can’t say that about the LANs.. because you don’t encourage ANY people outside the club to come.

    #107142
    lawlrence
    Spectator

    Is CS:S still played any at LANs? I want to come to the next one for some sc2 and hopefully CS:S freeplay. =]

    #107147
    MasterP
    Spectator

    lawlrence said:

    Is CS:S still played any at LANs?

    No. Students vote it in but never play it.

    #108307
    Pink Monkey #13
    Spectator

    CS:S servers are out of date again. Just thought I’d let you guys know.

    #108312
    Lemm
    Spectator

    Anyone know if a student would be interested in running the CS:S Servers…

     

    I’d love to start playing again.. but I don’t have near the time to organize a CSS community / maintain the servers. I could help out with plugins though.

    #108359

    Lemm said:

    Anyone know if a student would be interested in running the CS:S Servers…

     

    I’d love to start playing again.. but I don’t have near the time to organize a CSS community / maintain the servers. I could help out with plugins though.

     

    I think we should have 2 up at all times, tell me how and I will keep them up.

    #108539
    Lemm
    Spectator

    All you really need is firedaemon access. The servers have to be updated and restarted periodically. It has been a while since I have played, but I really don’t think you need to do much more than that.

    #108591
    Falcon
    Spectator

    Just dropping in right quick and saw this. 2 thoughts and I’ll be back out in the wilderness another several months.

     

    1 – keeping servers up-to-date wasn’t as big a deal when I was around, in what, 2007-2008? maybe that’s become bigger with the new steam update demands, if you can’t access a “old” server with a “new” client. Sounds unfortunate.

     

    2 – yeah you’re going to need some admin staff to keep the server chugging. I had to stay into it at least once every couple of days to gauge the server satisfaction and see any tweaks that might help (including the surprisingly successful termination of map voting back then). However, it also makes a big difference having server regulars. My pool of players was admins (CL = me, and whatever I called my priviledged peoples with admin rights and toys), WCU students, and the public community. The admins were pretty reliable, the public were my #2 group for keeping the server populated (students take off for class, but the dedicated public did great keeping us above just a bot scrimmage), and students were the #3 crowd. However, I’d say on average there was a fair tie between WCU students and the public number wise, with the admins being only a handful. Measure out the current server that way (maybe break it up into daytime and evening “shifts”), and see if you can get some regular attendees there. Take these measurements, because you may have to tweak the server to tailor it to those crowds to keep them coming back. Having regulars made all the difference in keeping the WCU server popular and well-appreciated back then. That point precisely is where your admins come in. You need them to pop the server and develop an admin staff, and to make sure to keep that core group of people happy so they stay there ;) However, that should just be a lesson for the future, y’all are shifting into summer gear and will be so-so for a while.

    #108594
    MasterP
    Spectator

    The problem isn’t clients or tools, it’s the lack of CLs and the unwillingness to appoint any.

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