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Can we not allow excessive wall spamming in the beginning of the round in snow? It’s kind of stupid to spawn and get shot down to 14 hp without even seeing anyone.
I was expecting this thread to be created by oh, I don’t know… xenocide.
Anyway, I’d say yes to this.
YouWinGameOver said:
yes but there is absolutely no way to enforce this and we would look like huge assholes by tryingthis
we already get enough beef for enforcing the “awp+knives” only rule so i vote no based on it’s a step in a direction we do not need to go
I am not expecting heavy enforcement. Just that when admins are on and playing, please post reminders and warn/kick those who keep doing it.
Actually just make it para spamming.
YouWinGameOver said:
once again not going to happenJust like you can’t enforce prohibiting crouchrunning or bunnyhopping?
How would we look like assholes? It’s only a handful of ppl who do it. Its kind of like in fy_dustworld when someone spawns on an awp and kills someone right when the timer starts. Will ppl get *edited*ed if we barred that?
Menace has a point.
BUT, crouch running and bunny hopping seem to be CS taboo anyways…like everyone knows what it is and most people frown upon it, so its much easier to control than say..being a downy and spamming a wall.
menace said:
Just like you can’t enforce prohibiting crouchrunning or bunnyhopping?How would we look like assholes? It’s only a handful of ppl who do it. Its kind of like in fy_dustworld when someone spawns on an awp and kills someone right when the timer starts. Will ppl get *edited*ed if we barred that?
A valid point.
I want to also mention another point about spawn killing like in scoutzknivez or awp_dust..3 second rule or slay?
YouWinGameOver said:
but there is absolutely no way to enforce this and we would look like huge assholes by tryingYet another unenforceable rule on snow….
You could just get rid of the problem map…
as much as I dont like snow it can be a fun map to play and I apologize to menace for posting harshly but it is true, it is much easier to kick/slay/ban for spawn shooting/bhoping/crouch running then it is for walling. I dont think its much of a problem but more of a nuisance.
menace said:
I want to also mention another point about spawn killing like in scoutzknivez or awp_dust..3 second rule or slay?Spawn killing isn’t allowed, if someone is doing it regularly tell an admin so they can deal with it. I have to get on Tiggle and Vertias balls all the time because the purposely go out of their way to spawn kill on awp_dust
menace we already have a 3 second rule in place for spawn killing in maps like awp_dust, awp_dust, etc.
i’ll give you some tips to avoid getting owned by a stupid para in snow:
a) get out of spawn with the quickness = grab a good gun and bounce
look at the walls of the other base and see where the para bullets are coming from. then you headshot them through the wall and no more spamming. DUH!d2.sticky-icky said:
a) get out of spawn with the quickness = grab a good gun and bounce look at the walls of the other base and see where the para bullets are coming from. then you headshot them through the wall and no more spamming. DUH!a) the spawn in snow = 1/3 of the map. I think what you meant is move the center of the spawn point cause most ppl when they spam, they do it at a 45 degree angle against the wall so even if you do peek out either to the left or right, you are prone to get spammed.
well double duh!, but that wouldn’t be fair. :]Thanks for the consideration guys. At least I tried.
I would like there to be someway of enforcing it, but i guess it would be really difficult to.
In a couple of weeks when we decide on map rotation changes, we’ll see if fy_snow will be in the next rotation
Snow brings people into the server. Getting rid of snow because people cry about stuff is stupid. Same goes for any other map, and anything else really. Not saying Menace is crying (I hate wall spamming as well
) but snow has been fine up until this thread.lockEm said:
Snow brings people into the server. Getting rid of snow because people cry about stuff is stupid. Same goes for any other map, and anything else really. Not saying Menace is crying (I hate wall spamming as well) but snow has been fine up until this thread.not according to kuros
“awps and walls” i think he calls it lulz
I feel like enforcing this rule wouldn’t be as hard as people think. We don’t always spot crouch runners or people who buy on awp_dust, but people point them out or we see them when we’re dead (unless you happen to be standing next to him while alive, but I think you’re usually dead when you spot them). I think it’d be the same with people spamming through the wall (with paras, not talking about rifles). I wouldn’t mind specing a few rounds to slay some people with relish. I mean… to help out. I already do it on awp_dust when people are buying guns and nades.
I don’t care if we ban spamming or not; I’m just saying.
To be honest, i dont see snow leaving the rotation anytime soon. I think if we enforce rules on banning/kicking people who spam in fy_snow, then someone will eventually complain about all spam spots on every map. Maybe if we did just para spam?
adam37 said:
To be honest, i dont see snow leaving the rotation anytime soon. I think if we enforce rules on banning/kicking people who spam in fy_snow, then someone will eventually complain about all spam spots on every map. Maybe if we did just para spam?This is a tricky subject to determine the proper course of action. In the long run you’ll see people who are getting killed legit by a para who’ll claim they got walled out of nerdrage and such. Also, once you put a stigma on the server that it’s a punishable offense to shoot through the pillars, people will eventually become afraid of even shooting through the sidewalls or even through corners and so on. It may just be my natural human paranoid nature but I think that’s how it’ll be.
I say we continue to let people pillarpara their way to top Frags in Fy_Snow. Hopefully this’ll cause enough frustration where we’ll actually play more maps other than Awp_Dust/Fy_Snow and Dust2. It seems these are the 3 maps we’ve been playing in rotation.
Side note: Since the 10minute from 5minute RTV change, I have noticed quite a few people learning to cope with the fact that maps have their own durations and they’ve been enjoying whichever map is being played.
menace said:
a) the spawn in snow = 1/3 of the map. I think what you meant is move the center of the spawn point cause most ppl when they spam, they do it at a 45 degree angle against the wall so even if you do peek out either to the left or right, you are prone to get spammed. well double duh!, but that wouldn’t be fair. :]Thanks for the consideration guys. At least I tried.
a. you get a gun and rush. by rushing, i mean you get to the spots with the nades really quickly.
b. how is it not fair to kill people spamming? by looking at walls, i don’t mean using wall hacks. you can tell where a person is by the angle from which their bullets are coming from. personally whenever i see someone wall spamming with a para, i get happy b/c usually i’m able to headshot them through the wall (b/c they’re crouching), nade them to death (b/c they’re stationary), or you just rush them & kill them since the person will probably still be spamming by the time you get to their spawn.
d2.sticky-icky said:
a. you get a gun and rush. by rushing, i mean you get to the spots with the nades really quickly.b. how is it not fair to kill people spamming? by looking at walls, i don’t mean using wall hacks. you can tell where a person is by the angle from which their bullets are coming from. personally whenever i see someone wall spamming with a para, i get happy b/c usually i’m able to headshot them through the wall (b/c they’re crouching), nade them to death (b/c they’re stationary), or you just rush them & kill them since the person will probably still be spamming by the time you get to their spawn.
Bro, you can see the bullets flying while in-game? I want your video rendering computer ability. ahaha
Seriously tho, this works for me half the time, the other half I’m usually micspamming TWD or TheMole.
d2.sticky-icky said:
how is it not fair to kill people spamming? by looking at walls, i don’t mean using wall hacks. you can tell where a person is by the angle from which their bullets are coming from. personally whenever i see someone wall spamming with a para, i get happy b/c usually i’m able to headshot them through the wall (b/c they’re crouching)Quoted for epic rofl
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