Sony’s Smash Bros Clone?

So first they copied the wii and now they’re copying it’s games.

Now I won’t feel so bad about buying the next Nintendo console, the game concepts for it will apparently be 4 years ahead of Sony.

MasterP said:

So first they copied the wii and now they’re copying it’s games.

 

Now I won’t feel so bad about buying the next Nintendo console, the game concepts for it will apparently be 4 years ahead of Sony.

Mitch, Nintendo isnt even sure what they want to do anymore with the WiiU. It has garnered such negative responses from conventions such as E3 that they have pretty much gone back to the drawing board. I mean hell, I would to if I had a system with a controller that was going to cost its fan base over $100, thats insane. And do show or tell about these concepts you mention b/c I havent seen anything new about the WiiU in quite some time. Last I saw of it, there were wispers of a Smash game being made for it, thats it.

Bloodedge said:

Mitch, Nintendo isnt even sure what they want to do anymore with the WiiU. It has garnered such negative responses from conventions such as E3 that they have pretty much gone back to the drawing board. I mean hell, I would to if I had a system with a controller that was going to cost its fan base over $100, thats insane.

Not according to recent press releases and interviews. Apparently they’re right on track with where they said they’d be with the final version scheduled to be shown at E3 2012 and a release a few months after that. Game developers interviewed in September noted that they were developing games that took advantage of the controller displayed at E3 2011.

Bloodedge said:

And do show or tell about these concepts you mention b/c I havent seen anything new about the WiiU in quite some time. Last I saw of it, there were wispers of a Smash game being made for it, thats it.

At E3 2011 the new SSB game was confirmed. Also, Sony has recently announced that the Vita will interact with the PS3 in almost an identical manner as the Wii U controller. Sony has also cut spending on the PS4’s development so it’s likely that they’re planning for the PS3/Vita to directly compete with the Wii U.

So Sony has their competition gameplan set, the puzzling thing is that Microsoft does not. They haven’t made any moves and are no closer to releasing the next XBOX than they were before the announcement of the Wii U. I guess they’re waiting and hoping that the specs announced aren’t entirely truthful. If they are the 360 is going to be in serious trouble.

MasterP said:

Bloodedge said:

Mitch, Nintendo isnt even sure what they want to do anymore with the WiiU. It has garnered such negative responses from conventions such as E3 that they have pretty much gone back to the drawing board. I mean hell, I would to if I had a system with a controller that was going to cost its fan base over $100, thats insane.

Not according to recent press releases and interviews. Apparently they’re right on track with where they said they’d be with the final version scheduled to be shown at E3 2012 and a release a few months after that. Game developers interviewed in September noted that they were developing games that took advantage of the controller displayed at E3 2011.

 

Bloodedge said:

And do show or tell about these concepts you mention b/c I havent seen anything new about the WiiU in quite some time. Last I saw of it, there were wispers of a Smash game being made for it, thats it.

At E3 2011 the new SSB game was confirmed. Also, Sony has recently announced that the Vita will interact with the PS3 in almost an identical manner as the Wii U controller. Sony has also cut spending on the PS4’s development so it’s likely that they’re planning for the PS3/Vita to directly compete with the Wii U.

Interesting. I must look into this at some point. From what I heard about the new Smash game, its getting completely re hauled. From what I was told, it was going to be like a fighting game-rpg hybrid where you can level up your character. That may be old news though, im not sure.

In terms of general computing it’s not true at all. Intel has designed their architecture so that even though they aren’t getting MHz faster they’re still getting a 10-20% overall performance increase every generation. It was looking to be true but Intel has developed a brand new type of transistor that makes it possible to shrink CPUs much smaller than they could have otherwise with traditional transititors. It’s actually incredibly cool watching how these guys deal with problems that occur when they try to shrink things to sizes they were never intended to go. When you get to the scale we’re at now nature itself tries to interfere, for example quantum tunneling, and it’s fun watching these guys develop new things to overcome it.

Now in terms of consoles, yeah there’s some truth to it. The problem is that they all use garbage IBM processors in consoles and IBM’s performance increases lately have been pretty stagnant when compared to Intel. They placed a lot of stock in the Cell processor and it just didn’t pan out like they thought it would. Now compared to the XBOX360, the Wii U’s CPU will be much faster but compared to the PS3 it will only be 15-20% faster. Actually, compared the 360 the Wii U could be up to twice as fast as they’re using the same server CPU that was used to power Watson. This is still significant in terms of games capability but it’s not enough to warrant building a whole new console to compete against, at least not for Sony. Considering that most high-end titles are actually playing at 720p on the PS3 and some lower weird scale on the 360 it’s likely that they’ll just be played at full 1080p on the Wii U since that would require no major change to the overall game. This sucks for Wii U owners as their games could be much better and will be held back by the previous generation but that’s been happening to the PS3 for a number of years now and is not a tactic that is going away anytime soon.

I wonder if any of the next gen consoles will try to incorporate 4K resolutions. It’s coming eventually- maybe closer to 10 years from now. We probably need a mega-blu-ultra-ray disc to hold the games though.

meh I like my ps3- and the games – and the blu-ray player

So what kind of pricetag are we talking about? Too early to speculate? With those numbers, the fact that it’s the next gen, and from what people are saying about the controller (costing 100+ bucks), is this *edited*er going to be like 700-800 dollars?

MasterP said:

It’s also been noted that the Wii U has more RAM than both the 360 and PS3. On a console that doesn’t matter as much as PCs but it’s nice to see the next gen will be trending in that direction.

Maybe this console will actually have a decent web browser…

One of the big reasons I’m giving Nintendo the benefit of a doubt on the Wii U is because a bunch of people are saying “What ere they thinking.” That is the same reaction I heard from most critics when the Wii-mote was introduced and that turned out spectacularly.

What are you talking about? Are you saying sony is creating a tablet controller too? I haven’t heard that.

Oh Malley said:

The new portable handheld, the PS VIta, doesn’t look too different from the Wii U controller. Maybe that’s what he’s referring to?

This.

I have no idea what the Vita looks like but it’ll interact with the PS3 in much the same was the Wii U controller. That’s what I’m talking about.

And the 3DS will probably interact with the WiiU if they follow up with their previous E3 announcements.

But the Vita is the new portable handheld as Lemm said.