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May 25, 2008 at 1:42 am #4716
ZODMAFA
SpectatorWhat happened to the point system?! I lost 24 points from one death! At this rate not playing for a few weeks i’ll be ranked number 1, anyone who does play is going to lose mass points. I think Lazy was saying he was 17-4 and was down like 54 points. What was the reason behind the point change, and why are the loses so dramatic?
May 25, 2008 at 1:49 am #47211Liam
SpectatorZODMAFA said:
What happened to the point system?! I lost 24 points from one death! At this rate not playing for a few weeks i’ll be ranked number 1, anyone who does play is going to lose mass points. I think Lazy was saying he was 17-4 and was down like 54 points. What was the reason behind the point change, and why are the loses so dramatic?To give people further behind a realistic chance to catch up.
May 25, 2008 at 2:04 am #47212Kuros
SpectatorI liked 15.
May 25, 2008 at 2:36 am #47214MasterP
SpectatorLosing 24 in one death is almost as bad as killing 2 hostages. I’m not too sure I like that.
I’ll look into it ZODMAFA.
May 25, 2008 at 3:28 am #47216ZODMAFA
SpectatorI got to ask, i sent MasterP a PM, but is the point of the rank system to reflect the skill of the player or the time played? I am not very good at CS:S. I am about .85/1 KD ratio, but still ranked 13th atm only cause i play a lot. If the rank system is to only reflect skill why not make it KD ratio only?
May 25, 2008 at 4:01 am #47217YahooEarth
SpectatorYes the new point system sucks huge weiner, but at the same time, I don’t care that much about points…but there were many people complaining about it tonight…
May 25, 2008 at 8:48 am #47222HexFlex
Spectator24 points ?!
psychostats ftw
May 25, 2008 at 11:21 am #47234Bracket
SpectatorIf the points werent there I wouldnt play for them, and I would play purely for fun because I enjoy playing on the server with the regs.. or.. What used to be the regs, some of left, afew new ones have joined. But, sence the points are there I almost HAVE to play for the because I’m competitive, I suppose. When I see “You have lost a super lame amount of points because someone with 1200 points killed you” it naturally makes me want to leave. Thats just how I feel.. I wish I could turn off the point messages for myself, atleast.. /sigh
May 25, 2008 at 11:23 am #47235Nickname
SpectatorI suck so bad I dont even care how the points are done.
May 25, 2008 at 11:27 am #47237Bracket
SpectatorNickname said:
I suck so bad I dont even care how the points are done.I wish it was that easy!
Also, yes I did post in the same threat twice in about 2-3 mins!
May 25, 2008 at 11:38 am #47239Nickname
SpectatorBracket said:
If the points werent there I wouldnt play for them, and I would play purely for fun because I enjoy playing on the server with the regs.. or.. What used to be the regs, some of left, afew new ones have joined. But, sence the points are there I almost HAVE to play for the because I’m competitive, I suppose. When I see “You have lost a super lame amount of points because someone with 1200 points killed you” it naturally makes me want to leave. Thats just how I feel.. I wish I could turn off the point messages for myself, atleast.. /sighAnother problem with that is SO many ppl have 1200-1250 points because they need 50 kills to get regular points… lame.
May 25, 2008 at 11:45 am #47240Phonetically Phamous (dice
Spectatorwhat was wrong with 15, why did we change it anywho?
Consistency = Server Success
If we are running off the regs, we will see some big changes quick.
lets stop fixing *edited* that aint brok,, i’ll ship you my dell if you wont to tinker with something to make it better.
May 25, 2008 at 7:44 pm #47324Liam
SpectatorReset to 15.
May 25, 2008 at 7:56 pm #47327Kuros
SpectatorNickname said:
Another problem with that is SO many ppl have 1200-1250 points because they need 50 kills to get regular points… lame.It’s actually like that on quite a few servers. It protects the regulars while still allowing new people to score points. 15 is much better than 25 and 5. With 25 the higher people get screwed a little too much. At 5, the lower people get screwed WAY too much.
May 25, 2008 at 11:09 pm #47337Pink Monkey #13
SpectatorZODMAFA said:
What happened to the point system?! I lost 24 points from one death! At this rate not playing for a few weeks i’ll be ranked number 1, anyone who does play is going to lose mass points. I think Lazy was saying he was 17-4 and was down like 54 points. What was the reason behind the point change, and why are the loses so dramatic?24 pts?! well i’m *edited*ed…
May 25, 2008 at 11:39 pm #47346MasterP
SpectatorLiam said:
Reset to 15.TY.
May 26, 2008 at 1:25 am #47358Pink Monkey #13
Spectatorthank the lawd! guess i shoulda check further down till i posted, however, i am a lazy person sometimes…
June 7, 2008 at 3:19 am #48419Dean Winchester
Spectatori think 15 is a lot too
i could get killed twice and lose ranks easily
June 7, 2008 at 11:19 am #48430Liam
SpectatorDean Winchester said:
i think 15 is a lot tooi could get killed twice and lose ranks easily
*sniffs loudly*
You’ll be okay.
June 11, 2008 at 1:41 pm #48750Dean Winchester
SpectatorLiam said:
*sniffs loudly*You’ll be okay.
but but…
the points….
my rank!!
June 11, 2008 at 1:49 pm #48751enough
Spectatorin all honesty, i think the max should be around 20… i dont think it has anything to do with people catching up, but the point system should reflect a persons ability in the game not how long they play. this would give people like chantz and bloodlust a distinct advantage over people with kdr’s way below theirs.
also, i think it would be cool if you added a new way of getting points for successive kills. kind of like getting a bounty, but if you get 3 kills-1 point 5 kills-2 point 7 kills – 3 points and so on… of course without dying. im not sure if this could be done, but it would definately help the point systems ability to judge who is the best player.
June 11, 2008 at 2:06 pm #48753Kuros
Spectatorenough said:
in all honesty, i think the max should be around 20… i dont think it has anything to do with people catching up, but the point system should reflect a persons ability in the game not how long they play. this would give people like chantz and bloodlust a distinct advantage over people with kdr’s way below theirs.also, i think it would be cool if you added a new way of getting points for successive kills. kind of like getting a bounty, but if you get 3 kills-1 point 5 kills-2 point 7 kills – 3 points and so on… of course without dying. im not sure if this could be done, but it would definately help the point systems ability to judge who is the best player.
I think it already does this. I know there’s an equation in there and I think that it does take successive kills into account. Maybe it’s an option but it does seem like I’ve seen this before. If you’re interested, you can download hlstats at http://www.hlstatsx.org and look through the configs at all the stuff it will do. Then you can make suggestions off of that. It’s just a big bunch of commented php code that is really easy even for a beginner to read.
June 11, 2008 at 2:33 pm #48754MasterP
Spectatorenough said:
in all honesty, i think the max should be around 20… i dont think it has anything to do with people catching up, but the point system should reflect a persons ability in the game not how long they play. this would give people like chantz and bloodlust a distinct advantage over people with kdr’s way below theirs.also, i think it would be cool if you added a new way of getting points for successive kills. kind of like getting a bounty, but if you get 3 kills-1 point 5 kills-2 point 7 kills – 3 points and so on… of course without dying. im not sure if this could be done, but it would definately help the point systems ability to judge who is the best player.
As evidenced by this thread, we’ve had trouble with raising the point limit before and I think most people are happy with it at 15. I would be extremely hesitant to make it more dependent on KDR than it already is. I don’t want a 10 minute streak to negate a days worth of regular play.
If this is something you feel strongly about create a vote thread and we can see how the community feels.
June 11, 2008 at 8:11 pm #48764Falcon
Spectatoroh, ye worshippers of the points, enjoy your earnings for now, hopefully within a couple of months I’ll have settled in, and I eagerly await the day I jump on with a relatively clean slate, and thus low points, and sneak up behind you with a knife to destroy your earnings… mwahahahaha.
/evil
seriously y’all, this isn’t your GPA, stats to my knowledge are merely trivial bragging rights on this server, so be more serious about having fun and let ‘kdeath’ do the talking for experience and skill.
=)
June 11, 2008 at 9:56 pm #48778Pink Monkey #16
Spectatorfalcon, you may say that you’re not a stat *edited*….
but we all know the truth!!!
June 12, 2008 at 12:49 am #48789Poopie
Spectatorme is stat *edited*
rank 15 in 1.6!
June 12, 2008 at 1:02 am #48793Liam
SpectatorPoopieDookieHead said:
me is stat *edited*rank 15 in 1.6!
and your posting in the CSS forums about that…why?
June 12, 2008 at 1:10 am #48796Poopie
Spectatorbecause theyre not talking about it over there
its boring…
June 12, 2008 at 9:03 am #48803Lemm
SpectatorFalcon said:
oh, ye worshippers of the points, enjoy your earnings for now, hopefully within a couple of months I’ll have settled in, and I eagerly await the day I jump on with a relatively clean slate, and thus low points, and sneak up behind you with a knife to destroy your earnings… mwahahahaha./evil
seriously y’all, this isn’t your GPA, stats to my knowledge are merely trivial bragging rights on this server, so be more serious about having fun and let ‘kdeath’ do the talking for experience and skill.
=)
server points are definitely more important than GPA….. you don’t have to tell anyone your GPA.. and I can always go back to working at Rent-A-Center
BAM THAT JUST HAPPENED!
but on a more serious note… I’ve never seen a points system that really truly judges skill…. and you also have to remember that the whole system is fallible because it’s based on the skill WHILE PLAYING IN A PUB.. so you get your pub stars and if you consider it that way the people that play the most should have somewhat of an advantage but I think most stats systems give them too much-
one thing to fix… I think that it should be impossible for someone to lose 100 points in one map… that’s just wrong… maybe focus less on losing points and more on gaining points.. bah I could speculate here forever but I don’t think anyone can come up with a perfect stats system
June 12, 2008 at 9:05 am #48804Nickname
SpectatorLemm said:
one thing to fix… I think that it should be impossible for someone to lose 100 points in one map… that’s just wrong… maybe focus less on losing points and more on gaining points.. bah I could speculate here forever but I don’t think anyone can come up with a perfect stats systemYeah I was doing awful yesterday and probably played 3-4 maps and ended up LOSING points. Not so good right there. Now I’m not all about the points but I try to stay in the top 100 if possible.
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