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  • #5145
    Ephraim
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    I can’t believe we haven’t discussed the new Gears of War 2 info yet.

     

    http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36707.html

    #52709
    Oh Malley
    Spectator

    Most of the people I know that have been talking about it are in a clan with me. They’re all excited. I personally am iffy about it. It’ll be a good game no doubt, but I don’t want it to become as frustrating or annoying as the first was.

    #52729
    YouWinGameOver
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    Looks pretty good…too bad i dont have a ps3 or xbox360

    #52777
    Cacophony
    Spectator

    I loved the campaign and the coop campaign in the first. Multiplayer was fun too, but it was the single player I was drawn too.

     

    As long as they keep it up in 2, I’ll be happy. Though I’d like to see it be bigger, explodyier, grittier…that’s what makes it fun! And that’s what it looks like they are doing.

    #67365
    newrayz
    Spectator

    Okay so I just blew through the story mode, and unlike everyone else who are on the Gears2 swing, I must say this was more disappointing than Halo2. The spoiler below explains my frustration. Highlight all the black to read about the crappy ending of the game and some of the other crapola’s. People who have played the campaign should understand.

     

     

    So if you played through the campaign, you know that you blow up a mutated Burmak who looks very similar to the Flood King in Halo. Also what this game seems to do is throw in a bunch of random *edited* garbage to fill a story.

     

    Listed below is all the crap that makes no sense at all:

     

    -Why show Dom’s wife dying, then have no follow up on it? Dom doesn’t go crazy, doesn’t cry, the only thing that happens is he looks at her picture at the very very very end. Simply stupid.

     

    -Scourge was the most pathetic boss I have ever fought in a game, ever. I had more fun washing my car this morning.

     

    -The answer to getting rid of all the locust, is to sink a CITY which THE LOCUST WERE GONNA SINK ANYWAY??!? what were the guys at EPIC smoking??????

     

    -You are introduced to a queen, who you see once, hear every *edited*ing level, and then don’t get to fight, or even see ever again. Another bunch of crap.

     

    -All these sloppy half assed additions to the game make this game pathetic. They try to patch up their horrible horrible mess with a short audio after the credits of Marcus’s father questioning what we have just done. My only guess is he is questioning why the game had to be so *edited*ing bad.

     

     

     

     

    If someone who has gone through the campaign could please explain the story a little better that would be great. Because as of now, this was the biggest disappointment in a game ever. It makes Halo2 look epic.

     

    I’m going to scratch the CD, go back to Blockbuster, blame it on them, and DEMAND my eight dollars back.

    #67589
    Prophicy1022
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    .cb new_rayz said:

    I’m going to scratch the CD, go back to Blockbuster, blame it on them, and DEMAND my eight dollars back.

    ROFL omg lol I’m not bying this game now lol… :lol:

    #67611
    Ephraim
    Spectator

    My thread lives again!

    #68364
    Oh Malley
    Spectator

    For all those who have played Gears 2 and don’t understand, brush up on your story from Gears 1. You also realize a bunch of questions are asked in Gears 2. If you read through all the collectibles, you can easily see the potential clues for an idea of the story in Gears 3.

    #68520
    newrayz
    Spectator

    Audyo said:

    For all those who have played Gears 2 and don’t understand, brush up on your story from Gears 1. You also realize a bunch of questions are asked in Gears 2. If you read through all the collectibles, you can easily see the potential clues for an idea of the story in Gears 3.

     

    Gears 1 story was clear, to the point, and still left a cliffhanger for Gears 2. Gears 2 did the complete opposite, unclear, rambled on with random details that led the game no where, with *edited*ty dialogue to boot. I hope you are right, I hope the gears people mend these giant wounds gears 2 has left with gears 3. I just wish they could make second parts to trilogies with more quality, like the Empire Strikes Back, or Gremlins 2.

    #68596
    Oh Malley
    Spectator

    Hold on.. I’ve been meaning to do this for awhile now just so things can make a bit more sense. I agree some things in Gears 2 just seem completely off the wall and random but using a little logic and a little theory, one can guess what’s going on or what will happen.

     

    I will be referencing some from the collectibles as they do provide a lot of supplemental story, as well as some events from Gears 1 and Gears 2.

     

     

    First, I believe Gears 3 will be somewhat of a prequel for the most part. I believe the story will be about 60% of previous events (roughly the first 3 acts), namely the end of the Pendulum Wars and just before E-day. Why? Well, first off, there’s been heavy reference to the Pendulum Wars and Marcus’ rogue mission to save his father during this time. It was referenced when Marcus’ returned back home in Gears 1, and then again, during Dom’s quest to find his wife Maria. Dom expected to Marcus to understand his plight since he went through an almost similar event. However, due to all this intrigue around Adam Fenix, why do we only know so few vague details about this event? It was something big and huge since Marcus was imprisoned for it. Anyways… and another big piece of evidence, I believe is the interpretation of the ending. “This is Adam Fenix. Is anyone out there? Can you hear me? This is Adam Fenix. Can you hear me? What have you done?” If anything, to me, this sounds more like some sort of distress signal broadcast due to the quality and sense of age to the recording.. sounding similar to Niles’ recorded voice in the New Hope Facility. I believe in Gears 3, we’ll actually have the experience to play through this event and uncover a lot more information about this event and the emergence of the Locusts.

     

    Other indicators that this may lead to previous events is the Carmine scheme. So far they’ve introduced the Carmine’s in alphabetical order (Anthony, Benjamin, and Clay. Plus still one other brother, which I suspect will be in a 4th installment, and his name begin with a D.) Also, I believe that their relative ages also play a clue. See collectible, Cog Tag CSID:838186-22A03-SF (Denizens, Intenstinal Fortitude, Collectible 2). It’s a letter to Clay Carmine. The Carmines are a military family, so Clay is either a retired veteran, or is serving currently at this time. However, since he is the oldest, or at least older, that I believe a flashback would be in need to introduce him as the new rookie. I believe he’ll end up dying once time flashes forward again, and Delta meets up with an old friend. And then Gears 4 ends up having a “Saving Private Carmine” side-mission.

     

    Anyways, characters to expect in Gears 3. Obviously, Tai should make an appearance for sure. He was only in what? 2 Acts in Gears 2? And obviously he knew Marcus from before. Possibly because they were on a squad together back in the Pendulum Wars. It makes sense. Dizzy will take his place upon going forward to the “present” time since Dizzy still alive, since no mention of his death was made in Gears 2. And of course, Clay should make his obvious appearance. And finally, I believe a Sgt. Jonathan Harper will appear as well. You may go.. who the hell is Sgt Jonathan Harper? Go look through the collectibles. It seems strange to me that they would put that many objects surrounding one person. First Act, there’s a medical file describing the symptoms of Rust Lung in a Sgt. John Harper. At the beginning of Act 2, there’s a journal entry for Sgt. Harper, stating he just set foot in the Hollow. In Act 4, Jonathan Harper is now a captive of the Locust and has started a journal while being imprisoned. And finally in Act 5, you collect his dog tags. That’s 4 out of 41 collectibles centered around 1 individual. He’s a 9 year veteran when his medical file was taken.. so I imagine he’s been around for awhile.

     

    Gears 3 should focus on the emergence and creation of the Locusts. Yes, creation. Look at the New Hope facility. They were attempting to make some new sort of super soldier.. however, it got out of hand for obvious reasons. The main question is.. how are they creating these Locusts? My theory.. Imulsion. I believe these scientists first noted the mutagenic properties of Imulsion when the COG or whoever, started mining Imulsion. They probably noticed the Kryll, which had similar biological features to a native bat found in underground caverns. The caverns that had Imulsion naturally flowing in them caused the bats to mutate into the Kryll. The Kryll are fairly easy to handle since all that is needed is a UV light to kill them. But note, the Kryll were highly aggressive, swarmed like a single unit, and were highly volatile. A team of scientists decided to experiment by exposing human test subjects to Imulsion. They needed to do so in secrecy, hence the need of the New Hope Facility and its ridiculous security system. And as noted, the test subjects experienced a rapid growth in their nails, reduced growth in hair, labored breathing, swelling of joints, amongst other symptoms. These subjects ultimately became the Sires, highly aggressive creatures with swarming, hive-like tendencies. I believe that Adam Fenix was possibly a member of this team as well as one Myrrah, yes, the infamous Locust queen (she did look rather human, remember?).

     

    Adam most likely tried to escape the Facility, but was instead captured and held in some Locust stronghold.. maybe even with some intentions to be experimented on. Now, I know I have met some opposition to this theory, but for me, this is the only thing that makes logical sense. In Gears 2, you discover that the Locusts are taking prisoners. And no one knows why. Most just conjecture that they’re sadists and just want to torture poor defenseless humans. However, I contest that the Locusts are capturing humans to make them into Locusts. We know Imulsion has mutagenic properties. And the Locust live in close proximity to the Imulsion. And they follow the direct orders of the Locust Queen. She seems to still be mostly rational and have direction, just as one would expect from a hive mind. She has been mutated as well, however, her mutation probably gave her some physical changes, but mostly, I believe she was able to produce some sort of pheromone that which these Locusts respond to. Since she cannot reproduce, the Locust hive is forced to capture and make new Locust drones and the like to continue to grow in number. Baird notes that they would have seen little Locusts if indeed could reproduce. (Check the Locust Invasion Drawing in the Hive chapter). Locusts start out as adults since the Locust generally capture humans that are at least in their mid-teens.

     

    The mutation first starts with Rust Lung. Rust Lung is caused by overexposure to Imulsion. Since it essentially cripples the subject, it makes it easy for capture. The prisoners are then moved underground into tiny holding cells. This is to provide a controlled environment with reproducible results. Plus it’s for their own protection. If for some reason the mutation goes wrong and the subject becomes too much for the Queen to handle or has some other adverse effect, they can just dump the container and prisoner inside into the Imulsion and be done with it. This explains the pasty white skin (lack of exposure to sunlight), lack of hair (mutation effects + Rust Lung), labored breathing (Rust Lung), and their proficiency with modern weaponry and technology. All other forms of Locust, Tickers, Wretches, Brumaks, etc.. are probably various forums of wildlife naturally found on Sera, mutated for the Hive’s purposes. However, the mutations can continue even further, thus the side effects of the Lambent locusts, in which the Queen has no control over.

     

    The final acts of Gears 3 will most likely propel the story even further, more notably exposing the true history of the Locusts and the COG army. Gears 3 will have some other Locust general to kill.. saving the Queen for Gears 4.

     

     

    Anyways, that’s just my theory on how this all works. I hope this provides some clarity to some story-line gaps or holes, or at least gets you thinking to fill the holes in for yourself.

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