.cb new_rayz said:
– Even if our banks are totally in the hands of the government, that doesn’t mean Obama is the dictator. There are still checks and balances.
Yes there are plenty of checks and balances. The government can make the banks do anything they want and if the banks don’t like it they can give the money they owe the government back, thus lowering their wealth portfolio and monetary holdings, getting the CEO and board members fired because they lowered the company’s value, and making them acquisition targets by other banks still rich from government loans.
.cb new_rayz said:
-Obama isn’t controlling anything, redistribution (If that is what you want to call it) is a WHOPPING 4-6% increase in taxes for a WHOPPING 5% of the population. Yeah okay that is a REAL control freak.
He’s taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor. That is redistributing wealth. That top 5% everyone likes to talk about ALREADY pays 55% of the taxes. How much more do you really think they are obligated to pay? 70%? 90%? All of it?
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-So he kicked people off his plane. Anyone who has a plane first off, has the right to kick whoever he wants off. Secondly, the “Obama’s press coverage was much more positive than McCain’s and that McCain had nearly 60% negative stories and 15% positive ones while Obama was balanced at ~30% positive/negative/neutral” point you make, has nothing to do with fear or terror.
Quite right. The problem with that is that Obama doesn’t own the plane outright, his campaign does. Since his campaign was based on being open and transparent, it’s odd that he would then turn around and kick people asking the questions that would make him transparent off. As to your second point, if the media is biased enough to produce the numbers I quoted above, it’s obvious that he has at least some control over them. Control over the media is a form of censorship. And before you even go there, Bush obviously didnt’ have control over the media as they were all the time declassifying documents for him and bashing him for every mistake him or his cabinet made, even when they didn’t make the mistake at all.
.cb new_rayz said:
-He is part black, it is a monumental achievement for the black community, for Christs sake they only have 1 month out of the year, its about time!
So this election was about race? Nice to know that liberals are FINALLY starting to admit that. This election is only a monumental demonstration of racsim as 96% of blacks voted for Obama. If 96% of whites had voted for McCain you can rest assured it would have been racist.
.cb new_rayz said:
Your whole Fascism spew can be used with any other president. Here I will give you Sir Fascist Bush:–Centralization of authority under a dictator: government overstepping power, going into a war without approval, manipulating intelligence.
The government didn’t overstep it’s power, it got approval for everything. Bush had 90+% approval from the senate to go to war. Manipulating intelligence? Yeah ok, tell yourself what you need to sleep better at night.
.cb new_rayz said:
–stringent socioeconomic controls: Giving tax cuts that don’t really do much, banning stem cell research because it’s “inhumane” and “life is too precious”, then turning around and say “collateral damage” is unfortunate but part of war.
The tax cuts obviously help someone or Obama wouldn’t be renewing them. It’s pretty odd that you would say that because you just flip-flopped on a position in the same thread.
No one has a problem with stem cell research. The controversy is over embryonic stem cell research which kills a fetus and has yet to produce a single medical breakthrough. On the other hand, adult stem cell research is harmless to the donor and has produced quite a few medical breakthroughs in the last two decades. They simply want to ban the useless and deadly form of research in favor of the useful and non-lethal form. How is that bad?
Collateral damage is part of any war. Moreso in this war because the enemy combatants hide behind civilians. If you don’t like innocents being killed, please go tell the terrorists to quite shooting at people from schools and churches and quit blowing up markets full of their own people.
.cb new_rayz said:
–suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship: Terror and censorship? LOL that is bush’s middle name. Did you all forget 9/11? He used fear as a catapult to get us into this mess of Iraq.
No, he actually used being ATTACKED as a catapult to get us into war. And go read Nickname’s rant on Iraq. It’s pretty much what I would have typed.
.cb new_rayz said:
policy of belligerent nationalism and racism: He is from Texas, enough said.
Last time I was in Texas it seemed like the most down to earth and friendly part of the southern strip of states. Have you ever been to Louisianna or Mississippi? Did you ever go to New Orleans before it was flooded? Obviously not…
.cb new_rayz said:
No one is fascist in this country, period. You republicooks will always be around with your ridiculously large guns that most probably compensates for something. If any president truly did in fact step out of the proper line, he would be checked faster than a turban in an airport.
So Bush never stepped out of line then. Always a nice thing to hear from a flaming liberal.
As for guns, well, remember that every weapon is created for a purpose. I’m not really sure what gun in particular you’re referring to but I doubt it was created just for the hell of it. In fact I can’t think of any weapons that the US invented that weren’t created to fullfill a need or counter an enemy advantage.
.cb new_rayz said:
MasterP might have succeeded in an epic trolling, but I found this random thread much more interesting than the majority of the nonsense we post on here. It feels good to try and use the noggin sometimes! lol
Glad I could be of service. I do have one request though. Quit reading biased newsources (on both sides). Using organizations and the Huffington Post as your sources really discredits you.