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Bitey said:

Best policy I can think of, save money for yourself and your children so they aren’t left in the cold, the rest, instead of spending it on 6-7 houses and then 9 or 10 cars, what is so wrong with “spreading” that around. You can look at it as charity, or whatever floats your boat, but something we all need to realize is we all live on this planet together, and we all have an impact on what happens to it, so you choose….

 

Help the people that clean up your *edited*, that throw away your trash, that clean the streets, that fix your McDy’s burger, that take care of your children, keep crime off our streets, put out fires, and all the other minimum wage jobs.

 

Or hoard all your money for yourself.

 

Your choice.

The problem with your idealism is that a socialist government doesn’t give you the opportunity to save for yourself before taking it all away. Under Obama’s plan, I can come out of college with thousands of dollars in loans but because I make a certain amount of money I am somehow undeserving of the right to choose to pay those off before being “patriotic” with my paycheck. I will have to give 30-40% in taxes under Obama’s plan, that’s money I WANT to save for a SINGLE house, a SINGLE car, for children’s future, etc but won’t have the *RIGHT* to because I make “enough to share”. You can’t sit there and tell me you believe that’s fair. As it stands now, over 30% of Americans don’t pay any federal income taxes, why should I have to pay extra so they can get a check in the mail? You can call it charity all you want, that doesn’t make it right. If I give to charity (which I do already) that should be my choice, not something the government takes automatically from my check and gives to groups of people where probably 90% are less deserving than those I would have given the extra to anyway. Would you rather give money to government “charity” where you know it will be leeched or donate directly to a local fire department where you know it will be spent 100% deservingly?

 

Btw, I don’t have any problems with or begrudge those who try to earn an honest living at minimum wage. I have always been nice and kind to those who do the work I was raised to not have to do. I’ll be the first to tell you I am fortunate that I have parents that pushed me and made me work hard in school. What I have a problem with and you can’t argue against is the nearlt 50% of my high school graduating class that didn’t even try to make something of themselves. They are earning minimum wage BY CHOICE. Community college is practicly free at that point in life and they chose instead to do nothing with themselves, hell 25% the high school freshmen I started with didn’t make it to graduation. You can’t say it’s not hard to feel sorry for someone who cleans toilets all day because they failed out of highschool, especially since it’s now virtually impossible if you actually care.

 

As for hoarding money, what’s wrong with that? Fat cats in Washington do it. All these politicians who want to raise our taxes do it. Obama had over $600 million in donations and you know it didn’t all get spent. If the new president is allowed to hoard, why can’t we? It’s not as evil or elitest as you think. You’ll understand when you get a retirement account started and struggle to make enough to fund it because your summer internship was taxed at 27%. I don’t consider my “hoarded money” aka my two IRAs as a bad thing. There’s nothing wrong with preparing for your future, Social Security was never designed to be income replacement for retirees but the unprepared, “poor people” who spent their money instead of saving it don’t deserve any of my money. That’s 100% not fair.

 

And I can tell you don’t really have a retirement plan because the only way the money increases over time is if you let it sit there. The money I have put in my IRAs will be there until I’m 69.5, that’s a choice I make. I choose to let it sit there and earn interest and dividends instead of spending it on a new TV or computer parts. The last time I took food to the homeless shelter for NHS about 75% of the people there had cell phones, and most of them weren’t the freebie ones like I use. WTF? You can’t defend that.