Deathspirit said:
I have no clue whether Kem’s reaction time is humanly possible or not but does that make a difference? With certain settings, specifically mouse acceleration, set correctly why wouldn’t it be possible to kill 2 or more closely grouped people in less than a second.
I think it makes a difference. He had a deagle out, he got auto’d, turned fired a single shot in my face, then turned and got someone else with a single shot in the face as well. If he was spraying with a colt or ak and got someone I would think nothing of it, but for him to accomplish something like this he would
1. Need to realize he had been auto’d by the server, I know personally I NEVER notice at the end of the round, and then when I spawn on the other side of the map I think to myself “oh, I got switched”, but assuming he saw the little message in amongst the chat messages he would then have too
2. Move his mouse to aim at someone’s face
3. Click to fire a single shot
4. Locate his next target
5. Move his mouse to the next person’s face
6. Click to fire again
Each one of those steps must be retrieved from Long Term Memory in your brain, placed into Short Term Memory, have the motor program executed, and then the next step can begin. All of those things take time, now I’m no Computer Scientist, but I would think a program would have no trouble at all executing something like that in a very very short time frame.
Deathspirit said:
So since we are actually discussing whether or not it is possible for him since you can kill players (especially in a close group) in under a second, what you really have to ask is:
1. Where were his cross hairs at the time of switch? If the round had finished and he knew he was going to get swapped was he prepared to get at least 1 kill instantly.
2. What was his rate of fire? In other words did he spray or take single shots?
3. How closely grouped were the CT’s?
We were somewhat close, but certainly not lined up for him, and he definitely had to turn and fire, they were single shots with a deagle, I don’t believe that the AMX mod thingy gives any kind of indication or warning as to who is about to be switched in an attempt to even the teams out, it just switches them correct?
Joe Kickass (RaVeN) said:
Its NOT relevant.
Granted, he may be very good, but using a character switching hack (which more than a few have accused him of), as opposed to an aimbot or wallhack (which hes not), makes this irrelevant.
He may very well have played in CAL. At least thats what he says, has he given you any reason to trust him?
The point im getting to here is, even if he did play in cal, the fact that this is a character switching hack of some kind, and not a traditional wallhack or aimbot, makes this irrelevant.
Also, he is changing teams in the MIDDLE OF ROUNDS. So the irrelevance furthers for this CAL theory.
I think maybe you are thinking of something else, I am talking about at the very end of a round when the server switches someone from one team to the other in an attempt to even things out.
Ex said:
this sounds like its turning into a witch hunt all this and no demo showing this as you call {hack} and there could be several things that could explain how fast a person can react mouse ;headset, this is just to thing not to mention if he in fact does have high cal exp it has total relevance due to the fact if you good enough to be cal p most people with out much cal exp would think that they are hackers. mostly because there not as fast so they don’t think it is possible to be and start threads like this one
I never intended for this to resemble any kind of witch hunt, I was simply letting people know what I saw and why I thought it was suspicious so that the Administrators could keep an eye on things. I don’t have any cal experience, but I had a friend who used to play competitively, he used to play lots of LANs where they would always inspect everyone’s machine for hacks to ensure things were fair, and he did quite well, I used to sit and watch him play and thing he was hacking, but I knew he wasn’t because when I went to play on his machine I would suck just as bad as normal 
. Heck, if he is totally legit, banning him might be good for him, if he does in fact have this super human response time he could and should be making MILLIONS elsewhere, not playing CS…
Anyways, the Admins say they are watching and that is all that can really be done and that was all I was asking for in the first place.
-Bryce