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Last night I coded the plugin to give each player 16K every round. 3 people joined instantly after putting it on and changing the title. We’re going to try it out for a little bit and see how it goes. So far it’s the only thing that’s brought people in.
I’m also going to finish coding Rocket Rob’s idea and have the server switch to de_dust2 when no one is on it.
yes i was one of those who joined, but not because of the 16k. its not really all that bad except at one point everyone had an awp, even me.
Dean Winchester said:
yes i was one of those who joined, but not because of the 16k. its not really all that bad except at one point everyone had an awp, even me.
AWP limits are AWP limits. Changing the server to 16k has nothing to do with this.
Ripc_Scarolina said:
16k every round made me leave… now its like every other server out there… Its retarded…
Having one thing in common to other servers isn’t instantly a bad thing. If I wanted to make a similar complaint I’d say “Allowing AK’s/M4’s made me leave… now it’s like every other server out there… It’s retarded…”
I don’t know why 16k gets such a bad rep. Especially considering no-one posts real arguments against it. It’s usually just “Ew not 16k that’s bad” or “16k?! but then people get to buy guns”. I think people are just opposed to change in general not 16k, and change is something they’ll have to get used to because the previous setup was not working. Just give it a shot, or post some logical argument for why it shouldn’t be there and prove me wrong.
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Having one thing in common to other servers isn’t instantly a bad thing. If I wanted to make a similar complaint I’d say “Allowing AK’s/M4’s made me leave… now it’s like every other server out there… It’s retarded…”I don’t know why 16k gets such a bad rep. Especially considering no-one posts real arguments against it. It’s usually just “Ew not 16k that’s bad” or “16k?! but then people get to buy guns”. I think people are just opposed to change in general not 16k, and change is something they’ll have to get used to because the previous setup was not working. Just give it a shot, or post some logical argument for why it shouldn’t be there and prove me wrong.
No I am just use to spending my money wisely and trying to get the best out of it. Then the 16k every round gets rid of the betting on who wins the round. Now it doesn’t matter who win people are just going to get 16k every time no matter what win or lose. Winning 5k on a bet because you were right made you happy. Losing all your money because you bet on the wrong team makes you mad but it was still entertaining. So now since everyone has 16k everyone is going to have 1 frag, 2 flash bangs, 1 smoke, night vision, and everything you need. So some hacker now can come in buy a para and spam head shots! (until admin shows up) But I just like the strategy proportion of the server of using your money. The 16k just gets ride of that now I can come in and buy the best weapons and still lose. I know I haven’t been on lately I have been trying to get a job in this great economy. But I was sadden to come back tonight and see 16k! That’s my reasons why I don’t care for 16k. I could add more but I know I am going to get criticized so whats the point.
I feel ya man I’ve been trying to get a job too…
In my point of view I really don’t play anywhere else but WCU and haven’t since I started playing here. I’m sure there are a lot of servers out there with 16k, but this here is what I’ve been playing so changing it to 16k is new to me. I personally just like to *edited* around most of the time now, after playing for so long and get sick of being broke and getting pwned. At least this evens the playing field if my team is really weak and can’t win a round.
I dunno I just want to try it out for a bit, if it doesn’t prove to bring more people in then I might switch it back, but it seems to be a valid suggestion right now and worth trying.
I know its just a “game” but what counter terrorist is going to go into a situation with a side arm and no armor?
16k aint that bad. Makes it a bit more “realistic”.
Rocket Rob said:
I know its just a “game” but what counter terrorist is going to go into a situation with a side arm and no armor?
16k aint that bad. Makes it a bit more “realistic”.
*edited* rob, you are making a lot of sense lately.
Ripc_Scarolina said:
16k every round made me leave… now its like every other server out there… Its retarded…
ummm you used the R word!
Rocket Rob said:
Ripc_Scarolina said:
16k every round made me leave… now its like every other server out there… Its retarded…
ummm you used the R word!
ragequit?
haha you guys misunderstood me. when i said everyone had an awp including me, there was only 4 people in the server. its just the fact that they could buy an awp in the first round but thats just me.
Ripc_Scarolina said:
No I am just use to spending my money wisely and trying to get the best out of it. Then the 16k every round gets rid of the betting on who wins the round. Now it doesn’t matter who win people are just going to get 16k every time no matter what win or lose. Winning 5k on a bet because you were right made you happy. Losing all your money because you bet on the wrong team makes you mad but it was still entertaining. So now since everyone has 16k everyone is going to have 1 frag, 2 flash bangs, 1 smoke, night vision, and everything you need. So some hacker now can come in buy a para and spam head shots! (until admin shows up) But I just like the strategy proportion of the server of using your money. The 16k just gets ride of that now I can come in and buy the best weapons and still lose. I know I haven’t been on lately I have been trying to get a job in this great economy. But I was sadden to come back tonight and see 16k! That’s my reasons why I don’t care for 16k. I could add more but I know I am going to get criticized so whats the point.
Making the betting system irrelevant is a legit reason for not having 16k. The question is do the benefits it provides out-way this. I don’t feel like reposting my arguments from previous threads, but I believe having imbalances in money between two sides is, overall, a bad thing for public servers. This being said, plenty of people in some of the other 16k servers I play in still go around with deagles. Why? Because they enjoy using it. Having 16k doesn’t mean you can’t use cheaper guns. It just means you have your choice out of all the guns. If you choose to buy an AK instead of an UMP, because you want a better shot of actually getting kills, you’re just proving the fact that 16k makes people happier. If it wasn’t a 16k server, you might not have had that choice, you might have been forced to buy a less efficient weapon. You wouldn’t have gotten to play how you wanted to. $800 servers force people to play at a disadvantage. 16k servers allow people to choose if they want to play at a disadvantage or not. If you choose to play evenly, all you’re doing is supporting the logic behind 16k servers. The only exception to this is the first round, when both teams are forced to use pistols. Which can be easily simulated in a 16k server with warm-up rounds, which has already been suggested.
MasterP said:
Rocket Rob said:
Ripc_Scarolina said:
16k every round made me leave… now its like every other server out there… Its retarded…
ummm you used the R word!
ragequit?
oh, now you said it.
you’re banned
With this 16K thing, I think we need to limit people from buying an AWP 2 rounds in a row in order to attempt to distribute AWPs evenly, since alot of people like to use AWPs all the time.
Do you understand what I’m trying to say?
I would be more interested in getting rid of awps completely. That being said, I do like that idea. Someone who can awp can go several rounds without getting killed.
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Lemm said:
yeah i understand.. that’d be kinda weird though.. anyone interested in doing this?
I would if I actually understood Pawn…
I mean, I can think of a way to do it, but i wouldn’t know how to actually code it.
If a player has an awp after countdown timer/buys an awp, set their name/steamid/playerID/whatever to a boolean of 1.
At round start, if any player has that boolean as 1, restrict awp purchases for them. Reset all bool values to 0, repeat.
rcon_l@nce said:
Lemm said:
yeah i understand.. that’d be kinda weird though.. anyone interested in doing this?
I would if I actually understood Pawn…
I mean, I can think of a way to do it, but i wouldn’t know how to actually code it.
If a player has an awp after countdown timer/buys an awp, set their name/steamid/playerID/whatever to a boolean of 1.
At round start, if any player has that boolean as 1, restrict awp purchases for them. Reset all bool values to 0, repeat.
it wouldn’t be that hard you would just keep an array of all the clients storing the count of how many times they had an awp… but if they picked up one and immediately died that would count as 1.. I was just saying it would be weird and difficult for people to understand.. I already get tired of explaining the only 2 per team awp which is something that I’m sure very few if any servers have but WCU.
I’ve seen other servers with awp restrictions.
But yeah, maybe it’s too much to deal with =\
I’m not opposed to just getting rid of awps and/or auto-snipes.
Sounds like a good idea. If you could throw in a message that said “The AWP cannot be purchased two rounds in a row” whenever they tried it, that might help with confusion. I would also suggest making it two lives in a row if possible. This way people can’t just buy the AWP repeatedly even if they are surviving at least one round.
maybe we’ll try that out… i’d like to get the population up before we do anything too unique in that way though
We could always raise the price of an AWP to 16k. That way if they go AWP they have severe limitations on what else they can do.
MasterP said:
We could always raise the price of an AWP to 16k. That way if they go AWP they have severe limitations on what else they can do.
win
i is sad panda. but if that’s what you see fit.
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