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  • #8241
    newrayz
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    i couldn’t stop laughing.

     

    Some conservatives want to change what is said in the bible, taking out words like government, peace and miracle. They say the modern bible is to liberal. LOL

     

    I would link you guys more middle of the road sources, but unfortunately can’t find any.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPKycFtsW74

     

    Here is the original “geniuses” who plan on revising the holy book:

    http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project

    #93814
    MasterP
    Spectator

    You know why you can’t find a non-biased source? Because no one cares. There are many translations of The Bible, each with their own little nuances and only a handful of versions have actually been translated without any government or political influence.

     

    If they want to create a version they think is truer, why does it really matter? It’ll be sold as a seperate version and do well or fail on it’s own merits. If churches feel it has more in common with their church’s teachings, beliefs, and constitutions then they’ll read from it, if not they’ll ignore it.

     

    Go read some of the proposed changes. They’re not nearly as bad as you’d think.

    #93817
    newrayz
    Spectator

    MasterP said:

    You know why you can’t find a non-biased source? Because no one cares. There are many translations of The Bible, each with their own little nuances and only a handful of versions have actually been translated without any government or political influence.

     

    If they want to create a version they think is truer, why does it really matter? It’ll be sold as a seperate version and do well or fail on it’s own merits. If churches feel it has more in common with their church’s teachings, beliefs, and constitutions then they’ll read from it, if not they’ll ignore it.

     

    Go read some of the proposed changes. They’re not nearly as bad as you’d think.

     

    it doesn’t matter except for the fact that:

     

    “For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

     

    “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

     

    “You have been warned.”

     

    So the very nature of their own project (based on the King James bible) invites the wrath of God.

    #93818
    newrayz
    Spectator

    its the simple fact they are doing it for the reason they are. It’s one thing to want to create your own translation. It’s another to purposely manipulate it because you think it’s to liberally biased as is. WWJD?

     

    and yet still. very funny.

    #93819
    Ephraim
    Spectator

    My theory is that most conservatives think this is a really stupid idea.

    #93824
    newrayz
    Spectator

    Ephraim said:

    My theory is that most conservatives think this is a really stupid idea.

     

    oh yeah of course. Crazies on both sides unfortunately.

    #93832
    MajorMajorMajor
    Spectator

    KJV is the way 2 be

    #93846
    YouWinGameOver
    Spectator

    Yay for being Jewish!!!!

    #93851
    newrayz
    Spectator

    YouWinGameOver said:

    Yay for being Jewish!!!!

     

    i lol’d

    #93865
    MasterP
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    NuRayZ said:

    its the simple fact they are doing it for the reason they are. It’s one thing to want to create your own translation. It’s another to purposely manipulate it because you think it’s to liberally biased as is.

    Again I ask, why does it matter?

     

    It’s not like the majority of liberals are Christians anyway, what do they care :o

    #93872
    MajorMajorMajor
    Spectator

    It’s nice to be apart of a dying religion.

    #93873
    newrayz
    Spectator

    MasterP said:

    NuRayZ said:

    its the simple fact they are doing it for the reason they are. It’s one thing to want to create your own translation. It’s another to purposely manipulate it because you think it’s to liberally biased as is.

    Again I ask, why does it matter?

     

    It’s not like the majority of liberals are Christians anyway, what do they care :o

     

    you’re right, doesn’t matter to me either way. Political section has just been so lonely as of late.

    #93894
    Nickname
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    MasterP said:

    It’s not like the majority of liberals are Christians anyway, what do they care :o

    Judging purely by actions, I would say be hesitant to call the majority of conservatives Christians…

     

    BTW, bible translations can change the way some things are interpreted in the bible but it does not dramatically change the source material. So unless this group is planning to like cut out passages or something along those lines, this is no different than any other bible translation.

     

    Just compare the first verse of the bible using a couple current translations:

    Contemporary English Version said:

    1In the beginning God

     

    created the heavens

     

    and the earth. [a] 2The earth was barren,

     

    with no form of life; it was under a roaring ocean

     

    covered with darkness.

     

    But the Spirit of God [c] was moving over the water.

     

    New International Version said:

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

     

    2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

     

    King James Version said:

    1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

     

    2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

     

    The Message said:

    1-2First this: God created the Heavens and Earth—all you see, all you don’t see. Earth was a soup of nothingness, a bottomless emptiness, an inky blackness. God’s Spirit brooded like a bird above the watery abyss.

     

    As you can see, while the NIV and King James versions are both very similar, the Contemporary English Version strays a little and The Message is like reading something completely different. But in the end, they all say the same– That God created the Heavens and the Earth, and that it was initially an empty slate of nothing.

     

    My point was, of course, that even though translations vary dramatically, as long as they get the core message across (note: core message of the Bible is God loves us), then let people choose whatever translation is most comfortable for them.

    #93934
    MajorMajorMajor
    Spectator

    Nickname said:

    MasterP said:

    It’s not like the majority of liberals are Christians anyway, what do they care :o

    Judging purely by actions, I would say be hesitant to call the majority of conservatives Christians…

     

    BTW, bible translations can change the way some things are interpreted in the bible but it does not dramatically change the source material. So unless this group is planning to like cut out passages or something along those lines, this is no different than any other bible translation.

     

    Just compare the first verse of the bible using a couple current translations:

    Quote:

    1In the beginning God

     

    created the heavens

     

    and the earth. [a] 2The earth was barren,

     

    with no form of life; it was under a roaring ocean

     

    covered with darkness.

     

    But the Spirit of God [c] was moving over the water.

     

    Quote:

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

     

    2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

     

    Quote:

    1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

     

    2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

     

    Quote:

    1-2First this: God created the Heavens and Earth—all you see, all you don’t see. Earth was a soup of nothingness, a bottomless emptiness, an inky blackness. God’s Spirit brooded like a bird above the watery abyss.

     

    As you can see, while the NIV and King James versions are both very similar, the Contemporary English Version strays a little and The Message is like reading something completely different. But in the end, they all say the same– That God created the Heavens and the Earth, and that it was initially an empty slate of nothing.

     

    My point was, of course, that even though translations vary dramatically, as long as they get the core message across (note: core message of the Bible is God loves us), then let people choose whatever translation is most comfortable for them.

     

    Understand that while for the first two versus there may not be significant changed but the further you progress into the Bible, the more likely you will see differing theological perspectives. The Bible is a holy text. Re-interperating it over and over for “ease of reading” takes away from meanings and can lead to drastic changes. (ie. the change from Monotheistic to Polytheistic with Jehovah’s Witnesses}

     

    I read the oldest version I can find that is not in Latin or Hebrew because there are parts of the Bible ARE differant and actually take away from the text and it’s meanings as a whole.

    #94551
    lockEm
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    #94552
    lockEm
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    Everyone should just listen to Immortal.

    #95879
    Falcon
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    Mr. PMosh said:

    KJV is the way 2 be

    There’s definitely a church I drive by every day that would agree with that. I think this weekend they intend to have a bonfire fueled by any other translation. I find their logic amusing (they would probably be so confused that they would throw books transcribed verbatim in the original language in). Don’t personally agree with their views, though.

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