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Pink Monkey #16 said:

So far I have succeeded in staying out of this, but I am being drawn in.

 

Here is how I feel about Obama. I did not vote for him at all, but until he actually does something which I disapprove of I cannot say that I dislike him or that he is a bad president. With that said, judging by his rhetoric on the campaign trail, it probably won’t be long until he does something that I don’t like.

 

“What I have to ask you is if more then 3/4 of the people who carried out the attacks on 9/11 why did we attack Sadam Hussein and go into Afghanistan? Was it not Saudi Arabia’s fault?”

 

Good question. Can I infer from this question that you really don’t see why we had to go to Afghanistan? I will assume that you do, so lets deal with Iraq.

 

It is a fair question why Saudi Arabia didn’t make the invade list, but I can only assume that the fact that its government and the US are friends and it did not host any terrorist camps was probably one of the reasons we didn’t invade.

Iraq on the other hand was different. Obviously, Hussien was not friendly to the US and unfortunately for him had at least one terrorist camp in Iraq. Unfortunately for him, he also had 14 or 15 UN resolutions calling for him to disarm, which he openly defied. Add on top of this to a failed land grab into Kuwait in 1991 and repeated aggression upon the Kurds with WMDs (VX nerve gas. One of the villages that he wiped out was what they charged him with and executed him for.) and you have a pretty bad guy who claims he has WMDs, who has used WMDs, and starts wars to absorb and terrorize neighboring countries.

 

Now, you may ask how does this affect us? He actually has no WMDs, and even if he did, he wouldn’t use them on us, right? Ignore the obvious humanitarian crisis afflicting his country. Ignore the training camp. The US has allies in that region. As mentioned earlier Saudi Arabia is one, Kuwait is another, Qatar, Israel, etc. Saddam, you could argue, posed no threat to us, but he did pose a huge threat to these others. The threat to Kuwait is obvious, as seen in 1991. Also in 1991, he shot as many SCUD missles as a he had at Israel during the Gulf War. He was going to go after Saudi Arabia next, if the US hadn’t intervened. You can argue about the importance of these allies, whether it be to ensure a stable oil supply or to provide us with intelligence on terrorists, but they are our allies. Ignoring the threat posed by Saddam would be like ignoring the threat of Germany in WWI. The US protects its friends and keeps the peace. The war to remove Saddam was not without mistakes, to be sure, but it needed to be done.

 

For further proof, look to Bill Clinton. Why would he of all people bomb Saddam unless it was a threat? (Or to divert attention from Monica.)

 

They did not have terrorist camps however they did fund terrorism and there are blatant showings of it. They also harbored terrorist throughout the last 25+yrs. I hate bringing up 9/11 but because this is a discussion on obama and bush and whoever else I will bring it up again. 11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. 11. Terrorists. Saudi Born. And Bred. You can’t tell me that they are not a threat.

 

I am Israeli and have lots of family over there. If we wanted Saddam dead you don’t think we would have done it ourselves? We quarantined his housing unit for over a week before and we’ve done this several times.

 

We didn’t do anything until 1916 and the war was over in 1918. You can not compare an evil of that time to an evil of this time. Yes I agree there are a lot of similarities but you can not compare it.