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I wonder how many of you people actually played real Team Fortress. Original TF, TFC and Q3F are what I grew up playing and here’s why they were better than TF2.
1. TFC had NO CRITS. Crits are the biggest *edited*ing joke I’ve ever seen in my life. It completely negates skill in every way. You’re owning someone and out of nowhere they one shot you from 300hp as a god *edited* scout. That’s a little bit ridiculous.
2. TFC had Grenades. At first I was excited about grenades being removed from TF2. Grenades could sometimes be a total spam fest. It did offer better offense against sentries and heavies. Besides, throwing EMPs at heavys/soldiers/demos was always hilarious.
3. TFC had The detpack. Ok so the detpack was almost totally *edited*ing useless but blowing up half the map with one explosive was always funny as hell. Especially when you caught a conc jumper mid flight.
4. TFC had Bhop/special jumps Conc jumping skills made original TF WAY better
5. TFC had Rocket jumps that actually worked right 100% of the time instead of 70.
6. TFC had snipers that could no scope with a full energy shot…tf2…not so much.
7. TF2 has Clipping problems: Even though TF2 maps are prettier, there is more absolute useless *edited* to get caught on than there is to hide behind in a Tom Clancy game.
8. TF2 has *edited* Pyros: do they seriously need 100% crits from any *edited*ing direction?
9. TFC had Spare ammo: banging on that sentry gun and out of metal? Used to be able to press “x” and drop your spare ammo for your brother engineer in need. NOT ANYMORE!
10.TF2 is for nubs! Where’s my flag? LOOK ON THE MAP! WE’LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE THE FLAGS ARE! No need to actually pay attention to the game when we got arrow pointers for you!
11. TF2 HAS That *edited* that sits in the middle of your screen for half the map. I know what the objective is, leave me alone.
12. TF2 has Scouts: they can kill ANY CLASS NO MATTER HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO DEATH. Because they are an overpowered joke from up close. NERF THE PYRO AND THE SCOUT.
13. TF2 has *edited* Pyros annoying you? That’s ok, we’ll extend the range of their flamethrower. No need to make it challenging for the pyros that also have the most powerful single barrel shotgun in the game.
14. TFC had POISONS: that’s right in original TF you could poison mother *edited*ers. use your medpack on the other team or set them ablaze and watch them infect EVERYONE on their team from spawn.
15. TF2 has Uber Charge: are you kidding me? L2P nub.
16. TF2 has the nublet The medic gun. I CAN HEAL YOU FROM WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OVER HERE!!!
17. TF2 has some pansy *edited* medics: Tf2 medics are *edited*. TFC medics? Grenades and double barrel shotguns. AND POISON.
There’s a lot more that makes TFC a much better game than TF2. I think I’ll go download Fortress Forever.
that is the most amount of *edited*ing about tf2 i’ve seen that doesn’t include demoman rage. Seriously those guys are *edited*ing bull*edited*, they went from being annoying to absolutely re-*edited*-u-lose, at least in tfc you could chuck an emp at the sticky and *edited* the demo over, god if engies could have their emps i’d attack more as one, i’d give up my *edited*ing pistol for one of those, oh yeah, and give me a real *edited*ing shotty for the engy, wtf man, i know the wrench is nice, but goddam that shotty is useless.
Complaints and thoughts(list form)
1. the day when demo gets his bonus packs, if he doesn’t get nerfed, i’m not playing for a month, if ever again
2. the engy needs his emps back
3. scouts! BONK! wtf man
4. where are my *edited* flags?
5. ROCK2
6. ROCK2
7. ROCK2
8. that map where you took flags from your base and ran them out to different control points and acculated points over time
9.yeah, where is my poison? i miss that *edited*, you could infect a time if they were morons, *edited* if you took the time you could beat the *edited*er to death with your medic pack
omg they are not the same game, nor were they meant to be. srsly if you dont like the game then dont play it and stop your QQing
Ok, the main reason they took out most of that stuff, is to balance it out and make newcomers feel more welcome. also I happen to play and enjoy both, although I play FF more than TFC.
Oh and no posting *edited* like this, this just takes up space and annoys people to high hell.
Who does he think he is to tell the ex president what he can and cannot post? Look at the title of this forum. I believe it is TF2 Discussion. I am discussing my dislike of tf2.
We are trying to bring interest to TF2 not deter it, your free to post your opinions about how much you like it but yet again as an ex-president I would expect you to have a bit more maturity with matters like this and instead of belittling the games we are trying to promote just sit in silence. Unless your suggesting you want us to put up a TFC server?
All I did was share my opinion to see if any older people that actually knew what they were talking about felt the same way. Obviously I have at least one person that agrees with some of my points. Just because one person doesn’t like a game doesn’t mean that they’ve scared everyone away from it. Your fascist state can censor all it wants. I don’t know what’s so immature about posting how I felt about something and giving my arguments. It’s not like I said you’re all dip*edited*s for playing it, although some of you are dip*edited*s and not necessarily for playing it. There, now I’ve gone and been immature. I hope you’re happy.
i will say i think scout is way too powerful, and when his updates come out he needs to be weakened a *edited* load
i don’t really feel that TF2 is worse than TFC because i feel like they play as 2 different games, just like how 1.6 and source really are 2 different games.
you can compare them all you want because they share a lineage, but its really a different game. IMO
Kuros said:
All I did was share my opinion to see if any older people that actually knew what they were talking about felt the same way. Obviously I have at least one person that agrees with some of my points. Just because one person doesn’t like a game doesn’t mean that they’ve scared everyone away from it. Your fascist state can censor all it wants. I don’t know what’s so immature about posting how I felt about something and giving my arguments. It’s not like I said you’re all dip*edited*s for playing it, although some of you are dip*edited*s and not necessarily for playing it. There, now I’ve gone and been immature. I hope you’re happy.That’s fine I am not going to delete anything you say nor have I ever done so, whether you realize it or not as an ex-president you have a lot of pull, so I was merely pointing out that I wish you would be more diplomatic with what you say, but I guess the world wouldn’t be the same without you being like the way you are. Oh well I am just an idiot who doesn’t know anything…
MajorMajorMajor said:
i will say i think scout is way too powerful, and when his updates come out he needs to be weakened a *edited* loadi don’t really feel that TF2 is worse than TFC because i feel like they play as 2 different games, just like how 1.6 and source really are 2 different games.
you can compare them all you want because they share a lineage, but its really a different game. IMO
Other than buying ammo, how much of the game did they really change though?
Kuros said:
Other than buying ammo, how much of the game did they really change though?you mean 1.6/source correct?
really, the way you move and aim are completely different. i find myself getting *edited*ed when i switch games and i forgot to adjust my aiming settings and i get *edited*ed over for the first 3 rounds until i adjsut back.
if you have to play “the same game” 2 completely different ways, then they are 2 different games with the same principle.
MajorMajorMajor said:
you mean 1.6/source correct?really, the way you move and aim are completely different. i find myself getting *edited*ed when i switch games and i forgot to adjust my aiming settings and i get *edited*ed over for the first 3 rounds until i adjsut back.
if you have to play “the same game” 2 completely different ways, then they are 2 different games with the same principle.
My point is that they didn’t do things like take out the AK because it’s “unbalanced” or remove flashbangs because they are nothing but spam. That’s what they did to TF2. CSS is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY closer to CS1.6 than TF2 is to TFC.
oog i sense a little bit of deja vu…
Major, you are right, the way the game is played is completely different, and should be treated is such.
and Kuros, that is your opinion and i have played both games to get a better perspective and i happen to like TF2 better because it is incredibly balanced and it also has a twisted sense of humor.
I mean at least post this kind of thing in the TFC board
I think it’s fine to criticize a club-supported game, as long as you aren’t super abrasive about it. Personally, I don’t get what’s so great about Soul Calibur.
Kuros said:
My point is that they didn’t do things like take out the AK because it’s “unbalanced” or remove flashbangs because they are nothing but spam. That’s what they did to TF2. CSS is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY closer to CS1.6 than TF2 is to TFC.well i feel liek they did change the weapons around, like they infinatly weakened the t’s auto sniper, amoung other things, but i do see what you are saying.
but liek i was saying, while 1.6 and source are in the same family, they are still really differant games (hence why you have a clear choice of CSS over 1.6)
its the same w/ TF2 and TFC. while related, the differances in the game make it difficult to try to compare the two. they are 2 differant games and i prefer the balenced (IMO) and prettier TF2 over TFC
rainefardreamer said:
i know the wrench is nice, but goddam that shotty is useless.i kick *edited* with my shotty
kalia, you would be a wall mounted machine or a box on the ground in tfc
🙂tfc has that *edited* spy fake death crap, but conc jumping made up for it. i feel tf2 has more of a strategy to it and overall more balanced. myself i prob wont go back to tfc for any long period of time, its fun but not as fun as tf2, for me.
feign death?
that *edited* was so cash on warpath back in the day, spy runs to final cp feigns , waits for the 2nd to last to be capped, and bam, insta win.
rainefardreamer said:
feign death?that *edited* was so cash on warpath back in the day, spy runs to final cp feigns , waits for the 2nd to last to be capped, and bam, insta win.
lol its still easy as *edited* to do that
I love TF2 and I loved TFC.
The fact that TF2 is different is refreshing! I wouldn’t mind spy feign death, dropping ammo for engies, or poison for medics but I’m satisfied with the game as it is.
TFC really was a grenade spam. I owned so many people with the emp grenades it wasn’t funny. I liked the chaos of TFC and I like the structure of TF2.
Mr. PMosh said:
the sniper/spy update or which one?All of them. And dispensers that heal. You can add that to my list of grievances. It makes it so *edited* to try and kill a sentry with a non explosive class (ie heavys) while an engineer sits beating on it while he’s being healed.
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