I tried to play nice, really I did…

Kuros, I believe that AppState and WCU shouldn’t be rivals, but rather partners in something bigger. Perhaps an organization of some sort, a joint community. Most of the players are in involved in both communities to a degree. Why not join them together officially somehow? I’m not sure how they can be networked together, or what can be done, other than a website that they both use. Just a thought!

Thinking about it though, I’m apprehensive about having closer ties, aye, ideally it would be great if everything worked out but yall just dont seem to have yalls *edited* together. I wouldn’t be against exploring the subject more though.

I just read the Why cs is dying thread by GRK, he is dead *edited*ing on and yall are laying into him like he is some kind of smuck. Why do they just blow him off when he seems to be so very right? Are they dumb or do they hate having a popular server?

Is backup requested and the fire need to be brought? *strikes a match*

App is crying that their server is dying to lack of support and since EVERYone at App is die hard on 1.6, they refuse to believe any of GRK’s posts about why 1.6 is dying. You’ll notice that every single one of their posts is a complete wannabe flame to him and never actually refute anything he says about 1.6. Lol immaturity.

WCU we have no problems with your club or your server. remember that the so called “trash talking” is coming from people that do no represent ASU or the Gaming Club at ASU. The founders of the ASU Gaming Club and WCU Gaming Club are friends and it was our goal to continue that friendship. There may be a little friendly competition because we are historically rival universities.. but that is all. Please disregard whatever our “regs” say that is negative. If anything we would like to create a partnership to promote gaming like red was alluding to..

yes our server has died because our redirecting servers were turned off some months ago and it gradually got worse. I am setting up new ones to hopefully repopulate our server.

WCU and APP will never be together. Not until Pengu loses admin in APP and is not considered a respresentative anymore. Pengu is a funny kid and I like playing with him, but while in the APP server if somebody mentions WCU he slams them. Then he says WCU’s server sucks. Truthfully while playing, WCU and APP have the exact same feel to me, the only difference is the time between map switching where WCU’s is shorter. Also red used to have a phase of joining app and instantly doing a repeated vote of awp_map until people voted yes, but that ended. That’s why I stopped playing in app for a while lol

I don’t know what Pengu has against WCU admins, but he slams the admins harder than the server. I mean everybody is a nerd so I don’t know what he’s all angry and surprised about? As long as this *edited* talking from somebody who is supposedly a representative of the APP server continues I doubt anything will be resolved.

I think it’d be neat if your two clubs combined to have one large LAN rather than two separate tournaments. Think of all of the sponsors that each community receives. Then imagine what you can accomplish with nearly 80% growth for an event. More companies would offer more things for more prizes.

Just something to think about, I’m not close to you guys at all so this is all just me ranting and whoring the forums like gxti told me not to do.

I agree with nearly everyhting said here.

The idea is to have FUN in the server. this brings people back. I remember 3-4 years ago app was “the” server think i saw it was top 10 east cost. all their players were extremely good. I can remember waiting 20 minutes just to join the server and then get kicked 2 maps later for a slot reservation. It was hands down a fun server to play on. does anyone remember /dukes o_0

now i dont know all the details behind how app is running their server now, as i rarely get to play anymore. but i have noticed several app regulars on our server within the past few months now. One thing i do know is that here at WCU our server is here for the students. and not the regular online gamer. Thus creating a phun community.

Also as a side note, a few weeks ago our 1.6 server was nearly dead, until adambomb got our redirects back up.. this is deffently a big plus on getting a full server.

PS: we are not here to start wars with other gaming communities, just stating what we beleave holds our server strong, which is the community.

PSS: does SpLit play our servers ever?

-NoDice

yeah, i havent seen SpLit paly his name in what… 2 years now?

i dont get the big thing between the 2? its like biggie and pac all over again

Dice come on now. I hope you’re spelling it like that just to get me angry. Hate you so much. lol

all i have to say is app and western are rival schools, so i don’t think anyone is going to want them to work together or network – not anyone who actually goes to wcu.

seeing the demise of the appstate cs server actually warms my heart and makes kittens sing all across the western nc mountains.

liet

NoDice said:

wrong, the majority of both clubs (higher ups) enjoy working together. also 1 of our 3 founder run both servers

the app guys even invited us to their afterparty gave us a place to sleep and recover the next morning. but from as far as i know all other school clubs and sports we beat each other with spiked bats

ok so i really wasn’t wrong at all,. except for the exception of a few nice app kids (tons of my friends go to app… ) .. lol.

i remember sitting thru the app v wcu game drunk as a skunk in pouring *edited* monsoon like rain.

Adam don’t be like that haha

Anyways, as JB already said, these “insults” and “jealousy” are coming from people who don’t officially represent the server and don’t even live in North Carolina or go to App. JB and myself are basically phased out as the people in charge of the club and the server. The new leaders are just beginning classes today and the first meeting is soon, so I imagine there will be some changes in the near future.

/end official response

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Now from a personal perspective and an alumnus non-official candid reply, I’ll try to instill a little bit of the App view. I’m sure the Western guys will just laugh some of this off as “typical Appy *edited*”, but it needs to be said nonetheless.

We are not jealous of you in the least. From a school standpoint we have no reason to be (two National Championships, better academics, better facilities, better campus, better location, etc). From a gaming club standpoint we have no reason to be. That is unless you consider it jealousy that we want to be funded by residence life, as you are. Even then, our financial situation is comparable to yours aside from the server donation you got from IT (which seems to have been more than a headache than it was worth?)

Dice mentioned this briefly, but I’d like to elaborate. In the beginning our clubs helped one another, and continued to do so until your new president was elected. The leaders from both schools were decent friends, and still are, and they helped each other because we were both experiencing similar problems and predicaments. No, it’s not that one club copied another, nor is it that one club magically manifested itself into something superior. Both clubs are where they are today because of cooperation and communication. So, no Adam, technical issues are not the only thing we have in common and are not the only thing you have learned from us, and vice-versa. We have traded sponsor contacts, we have learned what works for setup, we have learned what tournaments attract the most, we have learned how to build support within the campus community, among other things.

As for the cs server, I think the underlying problem is that we are both competing for an ever-dwindling pool of 1.6 players. Ultimately, even if Western helped the App cs server (what would you even do to help??), the twilight is near and I do believe it is time to move on to new games. Furthermore, I find it funny and a sign of the times (ie that I’m old) when the new president says things that word for word describe the experience on the App server for upwards of 3 years:

“I firmly believe that WCU’s secret to success is the community that we strive to create. We want people to feel welcome in our server with strictly enforced rules and admins on at all times to enforce them so that gameplay is both smooth and always fun. I think that the smooth gameplay and mainly the community is what has made and continues to make WCU a more successful server.”

When the new president of the western gaming club doesn’t even know what the history between the two clubs has been and considers a statement of condescension to be his contribution to the discussion, I think the channels of communication need to be reopened. Kuros, you really should get in touch with the new President of ASUGC and see what can be done. That is, unless you want to continue being obstinate and thinking you will never need any assistance. The previous leaders did a fairly decent job of keeping those channels open, but I think we did fail when it came to introducing the new leaders to one another. I apologize for not keeping you in touch with the new people.

I will not be around to reply to this since I am heading to France for a while. Although I think there are some valid points, do not take this as anything more than one perspective on a situation that honestly should NOT even be a situation. Remember that saying, “Don’t make mountains out of molehills” ? Yeah..don’t.

rossy now thats not very nice is it?

rossy your being pretty mean to have your face marked up hahahaah j/k