NoDice said:
why is being taxed on a luxury a bad idea?
or is it a bad idea just because you are money hungry?
This is another part of the “insurance tax on everyone”. If you have insurance as a company benefit, you get taxed on it. If you can’t afford insurance, you get taxed for not having it. The only way to win here is to buy your own, oh wait, once this starts you can’t buy any new private plans, you have to get a government sponsored plan.
Bitey said:
Anything that takes the money out of the obnoxiously wealthy people’s hands is just fine by me, I am sick and tired of the rich getting richer, the poor suffering, and the middle class becoming non existent. If changing that means socialism then *edited*ing bring it on.
This takes money out of EVERYONE’S hands, from the Bill Gates’ of the world down to the toilet scrubbers making mimimum wage. You say it’s good to have a tax on EVERYONE that directly hurts the middle class then complain about the middle class disappearing. Well no *edited* the middle class is dying, it’s because of the throngs of voters like you that think *edited* like this only affects the wealthy.
And talk about bashing the poor, if you can’t afford insurance you get taxed $695 or 2.5% of your gross (pre-taxed) income for it. Obama cares about the poor so much he created a new tax just for them…
Why is it that 2/3 of Americans are in favor of repealing Obamacare? Maybe because it doesn’t do *edited* for another 4 years and sticks the middle class, yes the average ordinary middle class workers, with the entire *edited*ing bill.
Ever stop to think why almost every state is broke? They raised the taxes on the wealthy thinking that alone would solve their problems. If your elected leader has a (D) beside his name that’s short for “dumbass that doesn’t know economics or history” because both history and economics classes will tell you that lowering taxes on the wealthy RAISES the tax income and raising taxes on the wealthy LOWERS the tax income. Something to do with the wealthy spending their money in the US economy, creating jobs, forming companies, that sort of thing.
NuRayZ said:
inb4 this was a chain email to scare the american people. Definitely taken out of context.
“go look at the bill….I like how the email doesn’t include all the details… like if youre on a individual plan anything that the COMPANY pays that is over $8500 is taxed… (yes the company not the individual)…I don’t know about you but my company’s portion is nowhere near $8500 and if you on a family plan anything over $23000 is then tax.
So you combat chainmail with another chainmail?
How about you go find the provision that specifically states those limitations on who this tax hike affects. I couldn’t find them, and Adobe Reader’s search feature looked really *edited* hard too. I also found the numbers you were talking about, only they weren’t the numbers you listed so I don’t know if the OP “chain letter” is a lie or not, maybe it is, but whoever you got your quote from was definately lying.
Here’s a biggie that makes absolutely no sense at all. Flexible insurance plans, like HSAs, are an extremely smart move because it forces you, the consumer, to shop around for the best prices on doctors and drugs. Obama was extremely pushy on this subject and spoke at length about making prescriptions drugs cheaper and getting people to buy over-the-counter meds if they do the same thing. So why is that people on flexible insurance plans are now banned from filling claims on over-the-counter drugs? Obama has now made it more beneficial for me to get a $200 bottle of allergy medicine on a prescription than a $5 box of Claritin D. How *edited*ed up is that?